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Old 5th July 2006, 23:21   #151
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after filling fuel we redlined the car in all the gears all the time throughout the 95.6km journey .. Car was mostly driven in the 1st 3 gears for most part of the journey ..

Getting an amazing figure of 13.65km/ltr with a really really heavy foot .. Who said modding an engine drops ur FE ?? Now with a light foot a very light one at that i wonder why one cant get 14-15+ ???? Venkat bhai are u listening ???
Well on our way to GOA, with Full tank fuel...Luggage...4 People...Some spirited Driving in the Ghats, the car returned a mileage of 13 Kmpl... Its surely not surprising that you'd get a mileage of 15+ in the city...
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So I went on this 428km long drive in my Baleno on NH2 - obviously was looking forward to the FE figures. When I did the calculation I was zapped ! 10.7 kmpl ! THAT WAS UNBELIEVEABLE !

This warranted some serious analysis, since over the past 7 months I have had an average Kolkata city mileage of 11kmpl with 60 to 70% AC. (Note that I used to get around 8.5kmpl under similar conditions and driving style in my Indica petrol). And here I was getting lower than my city mileage on the highway !

The figures of the trip look like this.

Total time - 8.5 hrs
Distance covered on highway - 402kms
Time taken to cover this distance - 4hrs 30 mins
Average speed 88kmph. However I was mostly driving between 130 - 150. The average came down due to some traffic lights at town junctions and delays due to slow 'backmarkers' who refused to move out of the way.

Now this means :
Within the city we covered 26kms in another 4 hours through inching traffic !!!!!!!!!!!
Actually during one stretch it took us 1hr to cross 2kms !
AC was on 100% of the time.

Considering I travelled at 7kmph for 4 hrs and gunned the engine to 130/150kmph for another 4.5 hrs with 100% AC - Does the mileage of 10.7kmpl now make sense ?
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dude... how did u manage that kinda mileage...
Looks like u have done a rockin job of the "burn in" process... n now its performing optimally....
but even then man.... I guess i get like a 15 - 17 kmph (in the city) on my 5 speed M800.... n u're talkin a Baleno.... way to go...
btw was the air con on???
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Ok, an update from my side. Did the Nandi Hills climb again. Blasted throughout, including the highway. Tried to keep up with a Porsche Carrera S, so you can imagine. Then went up and down the hill, again belting throughout. With AC almost 100%, I got 11.5 kmpl. Pretty darn good, eh?
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With AC almost 100%, I got 11.5 kmpl. Pretty darn good, eh?
Whats wrong with your car? You are basically saying, you can't get a single digit FE!! what Autocar initially managed was 7-8kmpl (worst).

Seriously good car!!
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I suspect I get single-digit FE, 9.xx or so, on track. But there, you never go below 4000 rpm ever, and your ECU "learns" to squirt more fuel in.
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hi guys i checked my mileage again now.in my normal driving of 46 kms a day with 15 km highway and remaining city iam getting a mileage of 13.89 kmpl. really awesome...........this is the mileage after first service of 1000kms. hope it will increase after second service...
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Considering I travelled at 7kmph for 4 hrs and gunned the engine to 130/150kmph for another 4.5 hrs with 100% AC - Does the mileage of 10.7kmpl now make sense ?
I was hoping for some analytical comments there.
How much fuel would the car eat up if stationary with engine idling and AC on, per hour ?

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But there, you never go below 4000 rpm ever, and your ECU "learns" to squirt more fuel in.
You mean, the engine does this on the fly ? So if subsequently one drives sedately in the city for a long time, then it would tend to squirt in less fuel ?
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So if subsequently one drives sedately in the city for a long time, then it would tend to squirt in less fuel ?
Yes , quite precisely its put this way .. What u can do is reset the ECU , drive really sedately for a few days u will be surprised with the increase in FE .. Now reset it again , belt it through in all gears close to redline , not only will ur FE drop but the throttle response also gets more sensitive .. Also , the ECU always keeps in store the nature of the previous 2-3 drives and compares these values and sets itself accordingly .. Also driving in 5th gear without pressing on the A pedal would mean no fuel being injected at all ..

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Yes , quite precisely its put this way .. What u can do is reset the ECU , drive really sedately for a few days u will be surprised with the increase in FE .. Now reset it again , belt it through in all gears close to redline , not only will ur FE drop but the throttle response also gets more sensitive .. Also , the ECU always keeps in store the nature of the previous 2-3 drives and compares these values and sets itself accordingly .. Also driving in 5th gear without pressing on the A pedal would mean no fuel being injected at all ..
How do u reset the ECU ???

Is it just fiddling with battery terminals that can reset the ECU

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How do u reset the ECU ???

Is it just fiddling with battery terminals that can reset the ECU

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yup... disconnect the battery for about 5-10 mins... and you are done.

but on the other hand I don't think ECU takes long to learn without even resetting. It adopts in 50-100 odd kms... thats what I have learnt from my wagonR... purely based on throttle response.
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but on the other hand I don't think ECU takes long to learn without even resetting. It adopts in 50-100 odd kms... thats what I have learnt from my wagonR... purely based on throttle response.
Now that you mention it. I did feel that the throttle response was better during city driving immediately after the 130-150kmph drive. I was wondering whether I was imagining things. But this could be the reason then. So it's a factor of distance and not time, right ? I mean after the high speed drive for 200kms, I was stuck in traffic for almost another 2 in 1st gear for 13kms. In this case the throttle usage during those 200kms will still have a bearing on the ECU ?

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Also driving in 5th gear without pressing on the A pedal would mean no fuel being injected at all ..
Lost you there. The car does need fuel to run ??

Btw, no answer to this one ? -->
How much fuel would the car eat up if stationary with engine idling and AC on, per hour ?
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Old 9th August 2006, 17:57   #163
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buddy do a full tank to full tank check and do you run with Ac, i am currently at 10K on my second baleno, the first one i drove for about 80K , never got anything more than 13.8 till date, the new car is giving me 11.78 consistently
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Yes , quite precisely its put this way .. What u can do is reset the ECU , drive really sedately for a few days u will be surprised with the increase in FE .. Now reset it again , belt it through in all gears close to redline , not only will ur FE drop but the throttle response also gets more sensitive .. Also , the ECU always keeps in store the nature of the previous 2-3 drives and compares these values and sets itself accordingly .. Also driving in 5th gear without pressing on the A pedal would mean no fuel being injected at all ..
Sorry for bringing up this very old topic up again and that too, slightly because of different car! But still, I just tried this ECU reset trick on my Ikon 1.6 and it worked a dream for me! Mileage went up, I don't know by how much! But it had a marginal increase. And also, I think its true about the ECU keeping in memory the nature of the previous 2-3 drives because when I used to drive very carefully, it used to consume v less fuel and after I did a few power drives and then eased on driving, it used to be consuming more fuel for a while. Today I've been aggressive on driving, tomorrow I'll reset it and go on the expressway for a ride and check.

Btw, I'm also going to try this ECU reset idea after getting my car back from the next service because whenever I take the car back from them, the car seems very responsive like how mentioned above by McLaren. I'm sure if I reset it, the mileage would be good as soon as possible or else always I'd have to wait a long time for the mileage to go up from 5/6 to 8/9. Yippee for finding this ECU thing!!
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v1p3r-thats great,happy for you.i am getting,14km per litre in hiway, with a/c, and doing maximum speeds when ever i can, in city with a/c 10 km per litre.
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