Spied 2010 Tata Safari / Indicruz EDIT : Caught testing in India! Pics on Pg. 20

kavesh55 · 10th October 2009, 17:38

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Originally Posted by canonball

If you notice the hood/bonnet looks like similar to Range Rover's, if I did not see the bumper and the bumper lights I would have mistoke her to be an RR

Does anyone else see this?

She started life when I bought her in 1998 as the poor mans Pajero - what we called her, seems to be going the poor mans Range Rover direction which is not a bad thing infact great

Cant be because in times of aerodynamics, tata wouldn't want to launch a vehicle with high wind drag. There something hiding.
Range rover is range rover saw one cms away this morning with a single 1 no. plate. Belonged to the chairperson of a Bangalore based biotech company.

sidindica · 10th October 2009, 21:01

more pics from motoroids, to me looks similar to the current car, maybe an evolutionary design change on new chassis? I hope this does not end up looking like the car mentioned below:

sidindica · 10th October 2009, 21:03

these Tata-Fiat launches are scaring the hell out of me, is something really big cooking on this alliance? or a big pressure cooker waiting to burst?

tushky · 10th October 2009, 21:44

Too similar to land rover.

bj96 · 11th October 2009, 00:02

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Originally Posted by canonball

She started life when I bought her in 1998 as the poor mans Pajero - what we called her, seems to be going the poor mans Range Rover direction which is not a bad thing infact great

I have bought once. I will buy it again. You cannot improve upon perfection. IMO, safari still scores 10/10 on looks. There isn't any car in India which can dwarf this beauty in any parking lot. Cars will come and go, but safari will stay forever

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Originally Posted by AyAn!

This is clearly the old Safari ...
Dissapointing,since everybody's expecting something all-new.

Why alter something which looks good. All they need is uplift the interiors, fill panel gaps, dumb the murmur of plastics, overhaul the switches/electronics, add all disc brakes + ESP and put a ~170hp mill (even current DiCOR looks capable of doing it- rev limited by ECU?) i.e. in a sentence put Toyota (or Honda) interior in a present day Safari and you have the monarch of Indian roads ready to rule 2010s.

-BJ

NeedaUsername · 11th October 2009, 00:18

Going by the pics, the new gen safari seems a bit shorter and wider!

prashanthyr · 11th October 2009, 01:24

Seems like a facelift to me, maybe to extend the life by another year or so before the next gen safari is introduced

safari_lover · 11th October 2009, 02:54

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Originally Posted by bj96

I have bought once. I will buy it again. You cannot improve upon perfection. IMO, safari still scores 10/10 on looks. There isn't any car in India which can dwarf this beauty in any parking lot. Cars will come and go, but safari will stay forever

Why alter something which looks good. All they need is uplift the interiors, fill panel gaps, dumb the murmur of plastics, overhaul the switches/electronics, add all disc brakes + ESP and put a ~170hp mill (even current DiCOR looks capable of doing it- rev limited by ECU?) i.e. in a sentence put Toyota (or Honda) interior in a present day Safari and you have the monarch of Indian roads ready to rule 2010s.

-BJ

+1 to that. It is just the looks of this vehicle that made me fall in love with her

Hopefully, she'll remain as beautiful, when I'll be able to afford her!

4x4addict · 11th October 2009, 08:26

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Originally Posted by prashanthyr

Seems like a facelift to me, maybe to extend the life by another year or so before the next gen safari is introduced

I agree. It seems like a facelift/refresh as opposed to an all new model. This is fine since Safari is actually a good looking vehicle. Just needs a nip and tuck at the rear end and maybe revised interiors with front facing third row seats roof vents integrated into the roof liner, etc. Not to mention some good Quality Control.

AyAn! · 11th October 2009, 17:52

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Originally Posted by bj96

Why alter something which looks good. All they need is uplift the interiors, fill panel gaps, dumb the murmur of plastics, overhaul the switches/electronics, add all disc brakes + ESP and put a ~170hp mill (even current DiCOR looks capable of doing it- rev limited by ECU?) i.e. in a sentence put Toyota (or Honda) interior in a present day Safari and you have the monarch of Indian roads ready to rule 2010s.
-BJ

Yes,true.But the Safari clearly shows its age from the rear.I wish it came with a more pronounced facelift with the things you mentioned than just reworked lamps and grilles.The spy pic shows the same old tail-lamps.Bad.

That said,I really love the Safari too!!

ladak.imran · 11th October 2009, 18:13

In my opinion, the only non-positive point about the existing safari, is the way it looks overtly Tall, and not wide enough, as compared to the conventional SUV silhouette...

Just my opinion.

And I think a white safari looks really smart - after reading Tanveers travelogue, and seeing pics of his Safari!

chaxy · 11th October 2009, 19:58

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Originally Posted by ladak.imran

In my opinion, the only non-positive point about the existing safari, is the way it looks overtly Tall, and not wide enough, as compared to the conventional SUV silhouette...

Just my opinion.

And I think a white safari looks really smart - after reading Tanveers travelogue, and seeing pics of his Safari!

Very true, and another reason is that the wheels are few inches into the well and not in line with the flared body panels. That makes it looks much taller. Same is the case with all tata cars including the indica. Thats why when you mod the safari with wider tyres and alloys that slighly jut out, it looks much wider, imposing and well planted.

The safari design was much beyond its time when it was launched and hence hold good till today. However i would love to see a new evolved safari and this just seems to be a mere cut paste job again.

smsrini · 11th October 2009, 23:30

IMO, you can expect a nip'n'tuck job on the existing design. From the spy pics,

- No change to the rear, except maybe loosing the spare tyre on the tailgate.
- Front quarter panels, bonnet, headlights, grille change.
- Headlights upturned like the Endy/ LC
- Better interiors ( hopefully )

In another year's time, I'll be ready to upgrade to the new Safari!

jkdas · 12th October 2009, 07:05

Like bj said; they should add more must have stuff like ESP etc. Wasn't there a rumour that they gonna get some know-how from LR?

170bhp; better brakes (disc all around please), better plastics and more easier access to last bench and wider tyres by default (nope this is not gonna happen, else test mules would have got this and hence its also means old chassis).

frankmehta · 12th October 2009, 07:10

so does that mean it's just a new engine? and some cosmetic changes?? why would they be having disguised test mules if the engine is the only difference? they can camouflage it by badging it as a 2.2 VTT and the entire automotive industry wouldnt know.
And i dont think the VTT is at the end of it's life. In fact, they can tweak it even further for more power and torque.
I think it IS a new platform. New chassis, and (maybe) new engine. And an all new Safari. This must be one of the beat test mules without large tyres (hoping so)

10th October 2009, 21:01	#617
sidindica Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 4,892 Thanked: 8,106 Times	more pics from motoroids, to me looks similar to the current car, maybe an evolutionary design change on new chassis? I hope this does not end up looking like the car mentioned below: Attached Thumbnails
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sidindica Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 4,892 Thanked: 8,106 Times	these Tata-Fiat launches are scaring the hell out of me, is something really big cooking on this alliance? or a big pressure cooker waiting to burst?
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tushky Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 1,232 Thanked: 2,701 Times View My Garage	Too similar to land rover. Attached Thumbnails
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NeedaUsername BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 134 Thanked: 26 Times	Going by the pics, the new gen safari seems a bit shorter and wider!
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prashanthyr BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: London Posts: 546 Thanked: 249 Times	Seems like a facelift to me, maybe to extend the life by another year or so before the next gen safari is introduced
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11th October 2009, 18:13	#626
ladak.imran BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bombay Posts: 294 Thanked: 6 Times	In my opinion, the only non-positive point about the existing safari, is the way it looks overtly Tall, and not wide enough, as compared to the conventional SUV silhouette... Just my opinion. And I think a white safari looks really smart - after reading Tanveers travelogue, and seeing pics of his Safari!
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11th October 2009, 23:30	#628
smsrini Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,115 Thanked: 426 Times View My Garage	A NIP 'n' TUCK IMO, you can expect a nip'n'tuck job on the existing design. From the spy pics, - No change to the rear, except maybe loosing the spare tyre on the tailgate. - Front quarter panels, bonnet, headlights, grille change. - Headlights upturned like the Endy/ LC - Better interiors ( hopefully ) In another year's time, I'll be ready to upgrade to the new Safari!
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12th October 2009, 07:05	#629
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	Like bj said; they should add more must have stuff like ESP etc. Wasn't there a rumour that they gonna get some know-how from LR? 170bhp; better brakes (disc all around please), better plastics and more easier access to last bench and wider tyres by default (nope this is not gonna happen, else test mules would have got this and hence its also means old chassis).
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12th October 2009, 07:10	#630
frankmehta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,000 Thanked: 3,577 Times View My Garage	so does that mean it's just a new engine? and some cosmetic changes?? why would they be having disguised test mules if the engine is the only difference? they can camouflage it by badging it as a 2.2 VTT and the entire automotive industry wouldnt know. And i dont think the VTT is at the end of it's life. In fact, they can tweak it even further for more power and torque. I think it IS a new platform. New chassis, and (maybe) new engine. And an all new Safari. This must be one of the beat test mules without large tyres (hoping so)
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