Fiat at the Auto Expo 2010

channelv · 9th January 2010, 17:09

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Originally Posted by GTO

10 more horses will probably improve the timing by 1.5 seconds. I highly doubt the 11.9 second 0 - 100 claim.

0-100 for Punto 90bhp is 11.9s for the international versions but then it all depends on the gearing FIAT decides for the indian version. With the gearing same, addition of 10-15 bhp could shave the timing by 1.5- 2 secs.

Dhar's · 9th January 2010, 17:40

GP Sport looks cool. Hope they give options on the decals. The alloys seems to be right off the GP Abarth.
This adds more to my confusion for the next car.

p'arth · 9th January 2010, 20:16

So when is the T-Jet getting to dealerships? When do we get to floor the gas pedal?

khan75 · 9th January 2010, 20:59

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Originally Posted by RX135

Is DualLogic similar to what they have on Honda Acura?

I had seen similar gearbox on top end Acura models in US. One of our clients, who is car crazy and wants to have more control on the car, opted for this than regular auto-tranny.

All Acuras have paddle shifters (on Type-S models) or a gear shift box similar to the one above (on non Type-S) as the default option on AT models. There's no "regular" auto tranny.

Santy · 9th January 2010, 22:13

FIATs crowd puller, along side the Fiat 500 Diesel

channelv · 10th January 2010, 11:39

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Originally Posted by p'arth

So when is the T-Jet getting to dealerships? When do we get to floor the gas pedal?

Talked to the local dealer, seems like T-Jet would be releasing soon but no idea as to when Punto Sport will be released.

arethusa · 10th January 2010, 14:21

Thanks GTO for the excellent coverage as always. You never let us down!

GTO · 10th January 2010, 22:15

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Originally Posted by channelv

0-100 for Punto 90bhp

When did the Linea-spec MJD become 90 BHP? Fiat states the official power rating as 86 PS. In other words, 85 BHP (84.8 to be precise).

@ Arethusa : Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed the Auto Expo coverage.

ddriver · 10th January 2010, 22:56

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Originally Posted by GTO

When did the Linea-spec MJD become 90 BHP? Fiat states the official power rating as 86 PS. In other words, 85 BHP (84.8 to be precise).

@ Arethusa : Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed the Auto Expo coverage.

that is a common preassumtion made by most of us by equatiing PS and BHP as the same. but yes here your concern is obvious as 86PS can never be 90 BHP.

Asifgrkhan · 10th January 2010, 23:46

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Originally Posted by GTO

When did the Linea-spec MJD become 90 BHP? Fiat states the official power rating as 86 PS. In other words, 85 BHP (84.8 to be precise).

@ Arethusa : Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed the Auto Expo coverage.

GTO. It is a common error. And to compound this confusion, the Manza has the same VGT Multijet but rates it at 90. It is a different issue that it fails to match the fixed turbo Dzire performance.

channelv · 11th January 2010, 07:30

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Originally Posted by GTO

When did the Linea-spec MJD become 90 BHP? Fiat states the official power rating as 86 PS. In other words, 85 BHP (84.8 to be precise).

Thought FIAT itself called the new Punto, Punto Sport 90 HP!

Moreover calling this new version Punto, 'Sports' for just an increase of 10 BHP is being over enthusiastic. And thought Fiat might have figured out calling it Punto 90 would be better than Fiat 84.8

(sounds like FM channels) Like how Raul Gandhi became Rahul Gandhi for the Indians.

NutsNBolts · 11th January 2010, 10:16

I don't think sports version introduction comprises of just increase of bhp. There are other additions that the manufacturer is ready to provide, which are, different alloys, leather seats, sunroof, interior panel trim, body decals etc..

ddriver · 11th January 2010, 11:25

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Originally Posted by NutsNBolts

I don't think sports version introduction comprises of just increase of bhp. There are other additions that the manufacturer is ready to provide, which are, different alloys, leather seats, sunroof, interior panel trim, body decals etc..

i totally agree, sports version does not mean only addition of bhp but ornamental and more functional features too which makes the punto into a new avtar called sport. and i guess 85 bhp under the hood is good enough for sporty punto.

opendro · 11th January 2010, 13:50

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Originally Posted by Asifgrkhan

It is a different issue that it fails to match the fixed turbo Dzire performance.

I hate to come back again and again to this topic. But if you think you can beat a Linea MJD with a DZire DDiS in performance, you are absolutely mistaken. So will be in case of a VGT Punto too. I bet.

EDIT: Let me also mention that DZire has better power to weight ratio in spite of having fixed geometry, because DZire is also a very light vehicle. However, as you keep adding more passengers and luggage, power to weight ratio of DZire will drop gradually.

opendro · 11th January 2010, 14:15

BTW, I have been longing to measure 0-100 in my Linea. The only place I can think of in Bangalore is NICE road. I'm wondering if someone has an instrument to measure accurately. If nothing at all, I'm planning to crudely measure 0-105 on speedo (which is 0-100) using stop watch a co-passenger beside me. It will give a rough idea if my experience had given me a wrong impression of Linea's performance. Until then, I'm just unwilling to accept what are published in megazines. Sorry, it sounds very immature and very obstinate stand. But my experience tells me otherwise.

9th January 2010, 17:40	#137
Dhar's BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: QLN/TRV/DXB Posts: 420 Thanked: 627 Times View My Garage	GP Sport looks cool. Hope they give options on the decals. The alloys seems to be right off the GP Abarth. This adds more to my confusion for the next car.
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9th January 2010, 20:16	#138
p'arth BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 257 Thanked: 90 Times	So when is the T-Jet getting to dealerships? When do we get to floor the gas pedal?
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Santy BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thane Posts: 81 Thanked: 12 Times	FIATs crowd puller, along side the Fiat 500 Diesel Attached Thumbnails
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arethusa BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ahmedabad Posts: 49 Thanked: 25 Times View My Garage	Thanks GTO for the excellent coverage as always. You never let us down!
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11th January 2010, 10:16	#147
NutsNBolts BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Jammu Posts: 817 Thanked: 41 Times View My Garage	I don't think sports version introduction comprises of just increase of bhp. There are other additions that the manufacturer is ready to provide, which are, different alloys, leather seats, sunroof, interior panel trim, body decals etc..
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11th January 2010, 14:15	#150
opendro BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: NA Posts: 824 Thanked: 108 Times	BTW, I have been longing to measure 0-100 in my Linea. The only place I can think of in Bangalore is NICE road. I'm wondering if someone has an instrument to measure accurately. If nothing at all, I'm planning to crudely measure 0-105 on speedo (which is 0-100) using stop watch a co-passenger beside me. It will give a rough idea if my experience had given me a wrong impression of Linea's performance. Until then, I'm just unwilling to accept what are published in megazines. Sorry, it sounds very immature and very obstinate stand. But my experience tells me otherwise.
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