[mkh]

Both Maruti and Hyundai have recorded a big big jump- what is interesting to see is how far has the manza made inroads into the dezires market share ...that segment is going to see a tough fight i guess...

[tj123]

Exports growing means Rest of the world is turning towards the smaller cars.

Small fuel efficient cars are the way forward.

[nurni76]

Originally Posted by mkh

Both Maruti and Hyundai have recorded a big big jump- what is interesting to see is how far has the manza made inroads into the dezires market share ...that segment is going to see a tough fight i guess...

I dont think Manza has had any effect on Dzire thus far. It is now almost 4 months since Manza has been launched and the Dzire number seems to be only growing. For Jan 2010, the total Dzire+Sx4 is 8995. Even if we assume 1500 SX4 (which is high), Dzire sells close to 7500. Manza has not been able to make any dent on Dzire. If at all it has impacted, it has on Linea and Punto only.

[nairrk]

Does it mean that people are more comfotable and happy with Maruti than the TATA???

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Mahindra

• Mahindra posts 67.4% jump in domestic auto sales in Jan with 28,998 units against 17,320 units last year.
• The company's total utility vehicle sales, comprising the Scorpio, Xylo and Bolero, in January stood at 20,332 units against 13,397 units in the same month last year, up 51.8 per cent.
• Logan, from the joint venture Mahindra Renault were down marginally at 555 units against 597 units in the same month last year.

Source: Mahindra posts 67.4% jump in domestic auto sales in Jan- Earnings-News By Company-News-The Economic Times

TVS

• TVS Motor Co on Monday reported 34 per cent jump in two-wheeler sales in January at 1,25,578 units against 93,729 units in the same month last year.

Source: The Hindu : Business / Companies : TVS two-wheeler sales up 34 p.c. in January

Originally Posted by nurni76

Even if we assume 1500 SX4 (which is high), Dzire sells close to 7500. Manza has not been able to make any dent on Dzire. If at all it has impacted, it has on Linea and Punto only.

Safe to assume SX4 sales around 2000 mark (since it had a refresh recently!). But even then, DZire would have sold close to 7000 cars! A remarkable achievement indeed, for a sedan!

Add another 8500+ numbers for Swift, the swift platform is earning big for Maruti at around 16000 cars a month!

I am waiting for the impact Manza will have on the Linea & Punto, their in-house competition.

Originally Posted by nairrk

Does it mean that people are more comfotable and happy with Maruti than the TATA???

DZire is a very good overall package, but for the looks. I do believe Manza is slightly better than DZire, but factor in Maruti brand strengths- the sales speak for itself!

[freewheelburnin]

There is a disparity seen between the Team-bhp favourites and the market.I genuinely feel that majority of Indian population go by advertisements and peer pressure while buying a car.I could site my own example.When i decided to buy Safari,everybody including my Dad was against it.The reasons quoted are
1)High on maintainance costs(Dont think so compared to vehicles in similar price band)
2)Low resale value(Why should it matter if i keep car for 5 years then resale value for any car would be low)
3)Low mileage(It offers better fuel efficiency than innova and better than my petrol lancer)
But an average Indian is not aware of ownership experiences,does not visit automobile forums,not interested to know about the internals of a car etc.In short the Indian buyer is not sure of what he wants.I.M.H.O this is the reason why there are Market favourites and there are Team-bhp favourites.

[shankar.balan]

very nice insights on this thread.
this pretty much confirms the trend over the last 4 months - the clouds of doom and gloom seem to have lifted and consumer sentiments are upbeat again!

as remarked on another thread, frankly, Maruti is truly the People's car - no doubt about it.

Tata will really have to do some seriously hard work, invest in proper sales and service infrastructure, improve its levels of quality / reliability and build trust in its consumers if it wants to fight with Maruti in this space.

[nurni76]

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

Safe to assume SX4 sales around 2000 mark (since it had a refresh recently!). But even then, DZire would have sold close to 7000 cars! A remarkable achievement indeed, for a sedan!

2000 seems high. While the new SX4 sold 2000 and 1800 in the first 2 months of its introduction, in Dec 09, its sales dropped to 1100. I therefore have assumed 1500, since Jan figures have grown over dec 09

[recshenoy]

Originally Posted by nairrk

Does it mean that people are more comfotable and happy with Maruti than the TATA???

its the MSIL brand name that is making DZIRE a winner though Manza is a overall better VFM. Some of my colleagues who wants to buy cars say" oh, tata! no man, i don’t want to go and stand with a cabbie and get treatment like a cabie"!

Manza definitely had effect on Linea!. reading though some of T-bhp threads, found that TASS sales guys try to sell Manza, Vista over Punto/Linea!

[mkh]

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

Maruti has reported sales of 95,649 units for January, a jump of 33.3 per cent over the same month last year.

Maruti is closing in on 1 lakh cars a month!
Source: Maruti sold 95,649 cars in Jan; sales up 33.3%: Rediff.com Business

Originally Posted by shankar.balan

very nice insights on this thread.
this pretty much confirms the trend over the last 4 months - the clouds of doom and gloom seem to have lifted and consumer sentiments are upbeat again!

as remarked on another thread, frankly, Maruti is truly the People's car - no doubt about it.

Tata will really have to do some seriously hard work, invest in proper sales and service infrastructure, improve its levels of quality / reliability and build trust in its consumers if it wants to fight with Maruti in this space.

yeah- but then tata is relatively a newer player than maruti and they are just catching up, it will take time and effort, but i think tata has the potential, if they convert it, remains to be seen

Originally Posted by nurni76

I dont think Manza has had any effect on Dzire thus far. It is now almost 4 months since Manza has been launched and the Dzire number seems to be only growing. For Jan 2010, the total Dzire+Sx4 is 8995. Even if we assume 1500 SX4 (which is high), Dzire sells close to 7500. Manza has not been able to make any dent on Dzire. If at all it has impacted, it has on Linea and Punto only.

Which is not good, i feel manza as a package is equal to DZire- there was a backlog of orders that the Dzire had to fulfill also i presume with the waiting period..even then looks like Dzire is the sedan many "desire"

[anu21v]

Originally Posted by mkh

yeah- but then tata is relatively a newer player than maruti and they are just catching up, it will take time and effort, but i think tata has the potential, if they convert it, remains to be seen


Which is not good, i feel manza as a package is equal to DZire- there was a backlog of orders that the Dzire had to fulfill also i presume with the waiting period..even then looks like Dzire is the sedan many "desire"

I would take it differently. I think Manza is selling atleast 4,000 a month. Dzire's sales would have been much higher Had Manza launch got delayed or anything. I think Overall Pie is growing faster than Maruti is growing. It would be interesting to see if MSIL has lost any market share.

[mayukh]

Originally Posted by recshenoy

Manza definitely had effect on Linea!. reading though some of T-bhp threads, found that TASS sales guys try to sell Manza, Vista over Punto/Linea!

It's very very true. The TATA guy (who came to give us a TD of Manza) shockingly said to me that it is contending against Linea. This was when I asked which cars are Manza's competitors?

[rrsteer]

Originally Posted by freewheelburnin

There is a disparity seen between the Team-bhp favourites and the market.
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In short the Indian buyer is not sure of what he wants.I.M.H.O this is the reason why there are Market favourites and there are Team-bhp favourites.

Interesting, what you say. Going through the various threads and the general activity in T-BHP one is led to agree with what you say.

Just open the initial ownership & test drive thread and you would think that India is a Fiat country - what with Punto and Linea threads dominating handsomely over others. But, we know thats very far from the truth.

The same could be said about Safari also I guess. One could be led to believe that its a 2 way fight between safari & scorp. Alas, we know how the Safari gets mauled here.

(pls dont pounce on me. I am a previous proud fiat palio owner and an even prouder current Safari owner)

[nairrk]

Originally Posted by recshenoy

its the MSIL brand name that is making DZIRE a winner though Manza is a overall better VFM. Some of my colleagues who wants to buy cars say" oh, tata! no man, i don’t want to go and stand with a cabbie and get treatment like a cabie"!

Manza definitely had effect on Linea!. reading though some of T-bhp threads, found that TASS sales guys try to sell Manza, Vista over Punto/Linea!

+
yes I agree
maruti scores over the service facility and easy accessibility. One has got more options (if not this dealer then the next door) but TATA is behind on this category hence such treatment

[Jaizcrzy]

With so many cars in line to be launched, we have these great numbers on sales. I wonder poeple are not waiting for more competion line up in the small cars segments. Seems like they are happy with Maruti. In a recent news seen that Maruti has more number of cars produced in India than parent company. Great on Maruti's side.