Whats up with this so called "Waiting period"

BUSA · 11th September 2005, 03:02

Many car company play say that the car is soo much in demand that you will have to book it right away i.e today to get it As Soon As Possible(ASAP), but what do you guys think is it true or is it lies.

Consider this, Honda City (New) has wating of 4 months, but the truth is not that the car is too much in demand(it is in demand) but not as much as the company claims it it. The Real truth being they have poor Capacity to produce Citys that why less stock more wating time.

Scorpio CRDe too has a waiting period for what i dont know??

If a car is a high tech one say a Merc i can understand the wating, since the sale capacity doesnot match the production.

Also Maruti Suzuki Swift has wating of 6 months

. YUP, you heard it 6 months. But that does not mean the car is superb. The car is good i agree, but not that practical(comparing to swift) However Maruti produces only 5000units per month so with 30,000 bookings swift is 6 months away. They can ramp up capacity but why they dont, God Only knows.

In this age of automotive where competition is so much people cant wait so long for a car. I have heard many people turning to Getz due to the large wating the Swift has. This way Maruti is losing customers as well and increasing RIVAL sales.

So guys what do you think about this wating period and stuff.

dadudeonfire · 11th September 2005, 03:08

showing that many people are buying it and booking the car asap...the waiting period is not going to increase now....coz people are thinking of other cars now...and company's even saying six month so that people who really want swift will pay some extra to get the car asap...like some car dealer offered us swift before the official launch date asking for 20,000 bucks more

mclaren1885 · 11th September 2005, 03:22

well its just a gimmick to create a scarcity,boost up the reputation of the product to an extent thats not worth,create a hyper hype and make a few extra bucks..but i think MUL is overdoing it with the swift and in the longer run could affect the company badly..

dadudeonfire · 11th September 2005, 03:50

arre dude wait and watch..after 3-4 months...there will be no waiting period for swift

Hackett · 11th September 2005, 11:25

very true..
As per MUL minimum waiting period for Swift ZXi is 6 months and VXi also in similar time range.

Hackett · 11th September 2005, 11:28

Just to add something off topic ..
One of my friend has decided to go for Santro now and wait till mid 2006 to buy a seden ( then available newer models) The Santro will be used as short use car later.

Deeps · 11th September 2005, 14:28

Lets, take the case of the swift. I highly doubt that its a marketing gimmick simply because many potential buyers (members of this forum too) have cancelled their order due to the 6 month waiting period. Why would MUL want to deliberately lead people to buy the GEtz/Santro etc. instead of their swift?

Hackett · 11th September 2005, 16:05

feel its marketing over kill. First they were not sure , how market will respond to Swift.
Second , they didn't launch it with few thousand stock in hand.

Third , our Indian mentality is run where everyone is running, very few chooses to question or deviate. That's the reason, in today's world we are still ready to wait for a car for 6months or more.( In certain cases after paying the full amount).

Fourth the previous generations hardship ( one use to wait for 8-10 years for a scooter delivery) adaptation is yet to wean away.

amitverma · 11th September 2005, 17:07

there is nothing like creating a scarcity thing in Maruti Swift's case.
its just that the car is based upon a completely new platform and the mfg. capacity at maruti's plant are not adequate for the swift.
why are u guys forgetting that maruti aint selling the swift only in India.
there is m800, alto, zen, wagonR, esteem, and balenos. they are manufacturing the highest no. of cars in India.
obv it would take time for maruti to increase their manufacturing capacity. since maruti has already planned 5 more models on the swift platform, i am pretty sure that after an year or so, their swift prod capacity would be increased to abt 2-3 folds the current one.

Sahil · 11th September 2005, 21:20

Its a simple law of economics - Demand does not meet Supply!
It does mean that the car is selling well but it also reflects that the company was foolish not to tackle such antisipated issues.

GTO - Touring · 12th September 2005, 10:14

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Its a simple law of economics - Demand does not meet Supply!

Umm, Actually its supply being unable to meet the demand.

Its hardly a marketing gimmick, and no one is going to make a paying customer run away to someone else with ready goods. Do you know how many potential customers the NHC and Swift have lost due to waiting periods. In addition and according to the JD Quality survey, long waiting periods were the no.1 source of dissatisfaction for customers.

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Scorpio CRDe too has a waiting period for what i dont know??

Incorrect. I was at the showroom yesterday and Scorpios are available within 4 - 5 days. In mumbai atleast.

GTO

Rtech · 18th July 2007, 15:36

Thought I'd bring this thread back to life. Seems that maruti still have not been able to meet the demand for the Swift. I believe the waiting period for a Swift is still about 2-4 months depending on the colour, variant and options. This is unacceptable. The swift is no longer a new car in the market. Isn't it about time Maruti got their act together and provide these cars withing a reasonable time frame?

msdivy · 18th July 2007, 15:47

I would say poor planning - under estimation.

scooby05 · 18th July 2007, 15:48

Fiats in the '60s had a waiting period of 5+ years!!
In the '70s 3+ years
Even today some premium cars have a waiting period of 1 year[ they offcourse call it made to order!
So I guess for a good car like the Swift which is successfull and a good car and is selling well in Europe too, the waiting of 2 months is not bad.

Samurai · 18th July 2007, 16:02

Bajaj Chetak had a waiting period of 10+ years, that takes the cake. In the present time Gurkha has a waiting period that is practically never ending. People are still waiting after 8 months.

My uncle used to describe the car buying process in the early 70s in our area. You had to use influence to secure an ambassador booking, and then constantly prod the dealer for the next 6 months to two years, or use further influence to get a car assigned to you. Those were scary days.

It is not marketing gimmick. Those days and these days, it is basically demand outstripping supply. Some manufacturers increase their capacity, but some just want to manage with existing capacity.

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11th September 2005, 03:02	#1
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	Whats up with this so called "Waiting period" Many car company play say that the car is soo much in demand that you will have to book it right away i.e today to get it As Soon As Possible(ASAP), but what do you guys think is it true or is it lies. Consider this, Honda City (New) has wating of 4 months, but the truth is not that the car is too much in demand(it is in demand) but not as much as the company claims it it. The Real truth being they have poor Capacity to produce Citys that why less stock more wating time. Scorpio CRDe too has a waiting period for what i dont know?? If a car is a high tech one say a Merc i can understand the wating, since the sale capacity doesnot match the production. Also Maruti Suzuki Swift has wating of 6 months . YUP, you heard it 6 months. But that does not mean the car is superb. The car is good i agree, but not that practical(comparing to swift) However Maruti produces only 5000units per month so with 30,000 bookings swift is 6 months away. They can ramp up capacity but why they dont, God Only knows. In this age of automotive where competition is so much people cant wait so long for a car. I have heard many people turning to Getz due to the large wating the Swift has. This way Maruti is losing customers as well and increasing RIVAL sales. So guys what do you think about this wating period and stuff. Last edited by BUSA : 11th September 2005 at 03:04.
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11th September 2005, 03:08	#2
dadudeonfire BANNED Join Date: May 2005 Location: mumbai - bandra Posts: 367 Thanked: Once	showing that many people are buying it and booking the car asap...the waiting period is not going to increase now....coz people are thinking of other cars now...and company's even saying six month so that people who really want swift will pay some extra to get the car asap...like some car dealer offered us swift before the official launch date asking for 20,000 bucks more
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11th September 2005, 03:22	#3
mclaren1885 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore (the city of modded cars) !! Posts: 4,820 Thanked: 45 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (10)	well its just a gimmick to create a scarcity,boost up the reputation of the product to an extent thats not worth,create a hyper hype and make a few extra bucks..but i think MUL is overdoing it with the swift and in the longer run could affect the company badly..
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11th September 2005, 03:50	#4
dadudeonfire BANNED Join Date: May 2005 Location: mumbai - bandra Posts: 367 Thanked: Once	arre dude wait and watch..after 3-4 months...there will be no waiting period for swift
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11th September 2005, 11:25	#5
Hackett BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 103 Thanked: 3 Times	very true.. As per MUL minimum waiting period for Swift ZXi is 6 months and VXi also in similar time range.
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11th September 2005, 11:28	#6
Hackett BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 103 Thanked: 3 Times	Just to add something off topic .. One of my friend has decided to go for Santro now and wait till mid 2006 to buy a seden ( then available newer models) The Santro will be used as short use car later.
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11th September 2005, 14:28	#7
Deeps Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Delhi/Noida Posts: 1,116 Thanked: 170 Times	Lets, take the case of the swift. I highly doubt that its a marketing gimmick simply because many potential buyers (members of this forum too) have cancelled their order due to the 6 month waiting period. Why would MUL want to deliberately lead people to buy the GEtz/Santro etc. instead of their swift?
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11th September 2005, 16:05	#8
Hackett BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 103 Thanked: 3 Times	feel its marketing over kill. First they were not sure , how market will respond to Swift. Second , they didn't launch it with few thousand stock in hand. Third , our Indian mentality is run where everyone is running, very few chooses to question or deviate. That's the reason, in today's world we are still ready to wait for a car for 6months or more.( In certain cases after paying the full amount). Fourth the previous generations hardship ( one use to wait for 8-10 years for a scooter delivery) adaptation is yet to wean away. Last edited by Revvmaster : 12th September 2005 at 10:53.
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11th September 2005, 17:07	#9
amitverma BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New Delhi Posts: 426 Thanked: 140 Times	there is nothing like creating a scarcity thing in Maruti Swift's case. its just that the car is based upon a completely new platform and the mfg. capacity at maruti's plant are not adequate for the swift. why are u guys forgetting that maruti aint selling the swift only in India. there is m800, alto, zen, wagonR, esteem, and balenos. they are manufacturing the highest no. of cars in India. obv it would take time for maruti to increase their manufacturing capacity. since maruti has already planned 5 more models on the swift platform, i am pretty sure that after an year or so, their swift prod capacity would be increased to abt 2-3 folds the current one.
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11th September 2005, 21:20	#10
Sahil Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 6,292 Thanked: 7,607 Times	Its a simple law of economics - Demand does not meet Supply! It does mean that the car is selling well but it also reflects that the company was foolish not to tackle such antisipated issues.
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18th July 2007, 15:36	#12
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,770 Thanked: 359 Times View My Garage	Thought I'd bring this thread back to life. Seems that maruti still have not been able to meet the demand for the Swift. I believe the waiting period for a Swift is still about 2-4 months depending on the colour, variant and options. This is unacceptable. The swift is no longer a new car in the market. Isn't it about time Maruti got their act together and provide these cars withing a reasonable time frame?
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18th July 2007, 15:47	#13
msdivy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,815 Thanked: 2,826 Times	I would say poor planning - under estimation.
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18th July 2007, 15:48	#14
scooby05 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,145 Thanked: 192 Times	Fiats in the '60s had a waiting period of 5+ years!! In the '70s 3+ years Even today some premium cars have a waiting period of 1 year[ they offcourse call it made to order! So I guess for a good car like the Swift which is successfull and a good car and is selling well in Europe too, the waiting of 2 months is not bad.
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18th July 2007, 16:02	#15
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 25,828 Thanked: 45,525 Times View My Garage	Bajaj Chetak had a waiting period of 10+ years, that takes the cake. In the present time Gurkha has a waiting period that is practically never ending. People are still waiting after 8 months. My uncle used to describe the car buying process in the early 70s in our area. You had to use influence to secure an ambassador booking, and then constantly prod the dealer for the next 6 months to two years, or use further influence to get a car assigned to you. Those were scary days. It is not marketing gimmick. Those days and these days, it is basically demand outstripping supply. Some manufacturers increase their capacity, but some just want to manage with existing capacity.
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