Would you buy a hatchback for 10L?

3danikesh · 9th February 2010, 20:25

Yes, I will buy one if it is a True Hot Hatch like Golf GTI MK - VI, Fabia VRS and upcoming AUDI - A1

theragingbull · 9th February 2010, 20:28

Firstly if i were to buy a hatch for that money, I'd obviously look for 130+bhp as everyone else pointed. But don't even dream of getting a powerful hatch for 10L in India. This market would contribute just 50 units a month. And for such a small number, no manufacturer would consider building it here. And if you were to import such a car it would cost upwards of 15L viz Bravo, Civic Type-R, Punto 1.6 etc.

If you have a 10L budget, I'd suggest you go for the Honda City. It has a nice 120bhp engine!

Otherwise if i had the money, I'd go for this

Caramelo · 9th February 2010, 20:39

i would buy the bravo.

or the skoda yeti. (i know its not a hatch but its not a big butch suv too) its gonna be priced more than 10 lacs i know but its wishful thinking from my part i guess.

also if launched VW golf, or Renault meagane looks like a hot hatch!

rjalihal · 9th February 2010, 20:41

10 lakhs for a hatchback. I would rather go for a nice sedan. This is with respect to the cars CURRENTLY available in India. I dont think there are any hatches at 10 lakhs anyways. However in the future if any hot hatches come ashore, i will definitely contemplate about one, especially the Civic Type R. And yes, the Golf GTi is sweet, so add that too!

abhinav.s · 9th February 2010, 20:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashthedivx

I voted NO because I have defination of hatchback in my minds which indicates hatchback =< 6 Lakh only. Above the settled limit is for luxury and oomph factor.

Voted for no as my definition of hatch matches with what ashthedivx has mentioned above.

piyush78 · 9th February 2010, 20:48

hi! I voted No. In this budget, we have more choices & we indians love bigger cars for various reasons already discussed on this thread. Moreover, a person spending 10L would most likely be already having one car at home(in most cases), so he would look at other segments like SUV/MUV/Crossover etc. My two Cents. Cheers

mithunkb · 9th February 2010, 20:50

If above 10 L, it should be an RWD/AWD with 150+ bhp(+all features mentioned above ).
Some dreams

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theEnd · 9th February 2010, 20:53

Thanks for your responses. The voting seems to confirm my suspicions that these stereotypes still exist.

I also see a lot of wishful thinking. Cars like the Fiat Bravo, Honda Civic hatchback, Mini etc would not only cost more than 10L, but would be close to 15L in India. And if we consider the Civic Type R or the Golf GTI, there's no chance that these cars, even if they were made in India, would cost less than 20L.

The 10L price point would be more applicable to cars currently on sale (Honda Jazz, Fiat Grande Punto, upcoming VW Polo) if they were sold in India with the same top-spec engines and features as they are abroad. E.g. a Honda Jazz with a 1.5 iVTEC, or a Grande Punto with a 1.4TJet, or a VW Polo 1.2 TSI with DSG. With 6 airbags, and fully loaded in terms of equipment, each of these cars would cost around 10L if they were to be sold here.

sachinj12 · 9th February 2010, 21:20

Voted NO. Budget of ten lakhs, eyes closed either safari or scorpio. Heart says safari, mind says scorpio

SunilM · 9th February 2010, 21:20

I voted yes.

Hatches are the most practical option on narrow roads that we have in India. Further, thankfully, we don't have to move houses in our own trucks and sedans in India, so that's not a basic requirement for us.

I would any day go for a luxurious hatch than a basic sedan. However there are very few cars currently in the Indian market which meet this criteria (with the exception of Jazz IMO). This is probably because of our stereotype that hatch has to be cheap. Sedans also add to so called "status" in India, it seems. Lukewarm response to Jazz proves these points. It will take some time, but I am sure we will mature as a market and have premium hatches. We will get there!

tacho · 9th February 2010, 21:38

Yes, of course.

At 10 Lakhs OTR. I want:

- at least 150 hp
- < 1200 Kg. A hatch might help keep the weight down
- I don't mind if it is FWD
- I don't need a DSG. A slick-shifting 5-speed manual is alright
- Sharp, powerful, fade-free brakes.
- Chassis and suspension tuned for handling
- ABS, 2 Airbags minimum. I don't need traction control
- If it helps cut costs, I can live with 2 doors
- I don't need many amenities. A/C, power windows should suffice

How about a Skoda Fabia with the Laura TSi engine?

Give me such a car and I will beg, borrow or steal to get it into my garage.

parimal_g · 9th February 2010, 21:43

If Fiat Comes with Bravo 1.6 MJD ,am sure its best buy.Or punto Abarth with T-Jet.

ashutoshb · 9th February 2010, 21:48

A 150-200 bhp Audi A1 or BMW 1 series hatch.. why not??

HammerHead · 9th February 2010, 22:27

If you are talking about existing hatches with some meaty engine making it to 10L price and if I would consider to buy it?

Then its a straight NO!!

In case if its a hatch with tolerable looks, producing 120-140BHP, has enough strength to handle that power and impressive 0-100 figure, why not I'm ready to pay 10L

SumitBahl · 9th February 2010, 22:32

I have selected 'No', keeping in mind the current scenario of hatches available in India.
If some modern hot hatches with good features are available, I would surely like to buy one.

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9th February 2010, 20:25	#31
3danikesh BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 51 Thanked: 44 Times	Yes, I will buy one if it is a True Hot Hatch like Golf GTI MK - VI, Fabia VRS and upcoming AUDI - A1
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9th February 2010, 20:28	#32
theragingbull Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,601 Thanked: 646 Times View My Garage	Firstly if i were to buy a hatch for that money, I'd obviously look for 130+bhp as everyone else pointed. But don't even dream of getting a powerful hatch for 10L in India. This market would contribute just 50 units a month. And for such a small number, no manufacturer would consider building it here. And if you were to import such a car it would cost upwards of 15L viz Bravo, Civic Type-R, Punto 1.6 etc. If you have a 10L budget, I'd suggest you go for the Honda City. It has a nice 120bhp engine! Otherwise if i had the money, I'd go for this Attached Thumbnails Last edited by theragingbull : 9th February 2010 at 20:35.
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9th February 2010, 20:39	#33
Caramelo BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: ahmedabad Posts: 769 Thanked: 16 Times	i would buy the bravo. or the skoda yeti. (i know its not a hatch but its not a big butch suv too) its gonna be priced more than 10 lacs i know but its wishful thinking from my part i guess. also if launched VW golf, or Renault meagane looks like a hot hatch! Last edited by Caramelo : 9th February 2010 at 20:41.
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9th February 2010, 20:41	#34
rjalihal BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 713 Thanked: 100 Times	10 lakhs for a hatchback. I would rather go for a nice sedan. This is with respect to the cars CURRENTLY available in India. I dont think there are any hatches at 10 lakhs anyways. However in the future if any hot hatches come ashore, i will definitely contemplate about one, especially the Civic Type R. And yes, the Golf GTi is sweet, so add that too!
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9th February 2010, 20:48	#36
piyush78 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: New Delhi Posts: 117 Thanked: 10 Times	hi! I voted No. In this budget, we have more choices & we indians love bigger cars for various reasons already discussed on this thread. Moreover, a person spending 10L would most likely be already having one car at home(in most cases), so he would look at other segments like SUV/MUV/Crossover etc. My two Cents. Cheers
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9th February 2010, 20:50	#37
mithunkb BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Thrissur , Kera Posts: 90 Thanked: 12 Times	If above 10 L, it should be an RWD/AWD with 150+ bhp(+all features mentioned above ). Some dreams.
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9th February 2010, 20:53	#38
theEnd BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 534 Thanked: 6 Times View My Garage	Thanks for your responses. The voting seems to confirm my suspicions that these stereotypes still exist. I also see a lot of wishful thinking. Cars like the Fiat Bravo, Honda Civic hatchback, Mini etc would not only cost more than 10L, but would be close to 15L in India. And if we consider the Civic Type R or the Golf GTI, there's no chance that these cars, even if they were made in India, would cost less than 20L. The 10L price point would be more applicable to cars currently on sale (Honda Jazz, Fiat Grande Punto, upcoming VW Polo) if they were sold in India with the same top-spec engines and features as they are abroad. E.g. a Honda Jazz with a 1.5 iVTEC, or a Grande Punto with a 1.4TJet, or a VW Polo 1.2 TSI with DSG. With 6 airbags, and fully loaded in terms of equipment, each of these cars would cost around 10L if they were to be sold here.
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9th February 2010, 21:20	#39
sachinj12 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,187 Thanked: 168 Times	Voted NO. Budget of ten lakhs, eyes closed either safari or scorpio. Heart says safari, mind says scorpio
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9th February 2010, 21:20	#40
SunilM BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Ahmedabad Posts: 274 Thanked: 51 Times	I voted yes. Hatches are the most practical option on narrow roads that we have in India. Further, thankfully, we don't have to move houses in our own trucks and sedans in India, so that's not a basic requirement for us. I would any day go for a luxurious hatch than a basic sedan. However there are very few cars currently in the Indian market which meet this criteria (with the exception of Jazz IMO). This is probably because of our stereotype that hatch has to be cheap. Sedans also add to so called "status" in India, it seems. Lukewarm response to Jazz proves these points. It will take some time, but I am sure we will mature as a market and have premium hatches. We will get there!
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9th February 2010, 21:38	#41
tacho BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 135 Thanked: 31 Times View My Garage	Yes, of course. At 10 Lakhs OTR. I want: - at least 150 hp - < 1200 Kg. A hatch might help keep the weight down - I don't mind if it is FWD - I don't need a DSG. A slick-shifting 5-speed manual is alright - Sharp, powerful, fade-free brakes. - Chassis and suspension tuned for handling - ABS, 2 Airbags minimum. I don't need traction control - If it helps cut costs, I can live with 2 doors - I don't need many amenities. A/C, power windows should suffice How about a Skoda Fabia with the Laura TSi engine? Give me such a car and I will beg, borrow or steal to get it into my garage.
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9th February 2010, 21:43	#42
parimal_g BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 442 Thanked: 278 Times View My Garage	If Fiat Comes with Bravo 1.6 MJD ,am sure its best buy.Or punto Abarth with T-Jet.
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9th February 2010, 21:48	#43
ashutoshb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NOIDA Posts: 1,755 Thanked: 4,287 Times View My Garage	A 150-200 bhp Audi A1 or BMW 1 series hatch.. why not??
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9th February 2010, 22:27	#44
HammerHead Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Goan in Pune Posts: 1,246 Thanked: 641 Times View My Garage	If you are talking about existing hatches with some meaty engine making it to 10L price and if I would consider to buy it? Then its a straight NO!! In case if its a hatch with tolerable looks, producing 120-140BHP, has enough strength to handle that power and impressive 0-100 figure, why not I'm ready to pay 10L Last edited by HammerHead : 9th February 2010 at 22:29.
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9th February 2010, 22:32	#45
SumitBahl BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chandigarh Posts: 976 Thanked: 230 Times View My Garage	I have selected 'No', keeping in mind the current scenario of hatches available in India. If some modern hot hatches with good features are available, I would surely like to buy one.
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