[nilanjanray]

Link to a 8 page offroad test report (PDF format) from a South African website. While the report covers the 3.2L version, it should be of interest especially to folks who want to offroad with it.
http://www.acar4u.co.za/images/files...e783cbbb82.pdf

Does the Indian version have rear diff locks?

OT: The folks in South Africa, Australia etc. are lucky - with trails, farms and ranches catering for people who like the outdoors life.

[rrsteer]

Originally Posted by swiftnfurious

Fertilizers at the back of a 25L car?? Man, I don't let my mom keep fish & vegetables in my 6L Swift!

Uh-oh! You will be shocked to see then, the kind of things I haul in my humble SUV - the Safari.
I'd say that the owner in the above case is making good use of the letter 'U' in the acronym SUV, and kudos to that!

[m_upreti]

Originally Posted by swiftnfurious

Fertilizers at the back of a 25L car?? Man, I don't let my mom keep fish & vegetables in my 6L Swift!

Well does it matter , i dont have a 25 lacs car but my Scorpio loads up every thing from a bunch of kids to flowerpots and Ganapati

[Harbir]

Originally Posted by nilanjanray

Link to a 8 page offroad test report (PDF format) from a South African website. While the report covers the 3.2L version, it should be of interest especially to folks who want to offroad with it.
http://www.acar4u.co.za/images/files...e783cbbb82.pdf

Does the Indian version have rear diff locks?

OT: The folks in South Africa, Australia etc. are lucky - with trails, farms and ranches catering for people who like the outdoors life.

that says that the PajSpo is about neck and neck with the T-Fort off road. Since I consider the SFX much superior off road compared to the T-Fort, I wonder if that can be taken to mean anything re the pajspo

[nilanjanray]

The Sport is a Triton cousin instead of a suv built from the ground up like SFX.

A specialist offroader instead of a pickup-based, more modern, powerful allrounder like the TFort or Sport. Both types have pros and cons. Go for one that is more suitable for you.

[Aroy]

The older engine of SFX will have a much better torque at low RPM, hence is a better bet for getting you out of "sticky" situations. Low end torque will enable the older engined SUV to start on and climb steep trails without slipping (and burning) the clutch. People have reported similar difference in low end torque between the older Scorpios and the newer ones with M Hawk engine.

Much of the modern CRDI engine's torque and HP are at the higher RPM range and contribute to the highway travel, rather than slow speed trail/mountain type travel. That is why the Toyota Land Cruiser 7x series still has an option for 4.2L non CRDI 96KW engine, along with a 3L 120KW CRDI. In my opinion, if you want an SUV for Himalayas, the SFX will be a much better proposition than the Fortuner or Pajero Sport. And of course the SFX comes with minimal electronics, hence less chance of your vehicle going dead due to a glitch in electronics.

[daebis]

hahaha, why is it shocking carrying fertilizers... its what i do... its with the help of the fertlizer that i will be paying the installments!!! lol...

oh forgot to mention it gave me an average of 10.1 through all the areas i mentioned , which am pretty ok with for now. my friend drove his like there is no tomorrow, says it movesssss like a bullet...

but will let you know in a few days.

[4x4addict]

Originally Posted by Aroy

The older engine of SFX will have a much better torque at low RPM,

Between a 2.8 IDI and 2.5 DI CRde, there will not be much difference in low end Torque. The older Scorpio is also a DI Block. DI engines make more Torque at lower RPMs compared to older IDI engines.

TLC has a 4.2 Liter inline six diesel that can in no way be compared to the Pajero's underpowered 2.8 4 cylinder engine.

[Aroy]

Got the two torque curves. Sports from the brochure, SFX from South Africa Site


For the 2.8L Engine. This seems to be the original curve, which has been reduced for first BS-III and then BS-IV


For the Sport

At 1000 RPM the SFX has a minor edge, but looses out by 1500. SO if you have to crawl below 1000RPM, SFX would have a minor edge. As the Sport is about a 100 kg lighter, the difference should be minimal.

[ACM]

Have felt that the Pajero Sport is a really nice vehicle that Mitsubishi should have got in earlier and at a better price point than the fortuner. In some ways would rate it to be better than the Fortuner but for the price. The scenario now would be that it would remain relatively niche and sell in limited numbers giving it's owner the advantage of owning a relatively exclusive vehicle. But that is not what HM has introduced the vehicle in India for and their purpose is defeated.

The limited buyers though will love the vehicle for what it is.

[Randhawa]

I am in love with the PS, had a look at it today and saw few in Chandigarh. Oh boy, what a sweet looking thing it is. Love the interior, feels so fresh and loved the stance she has on road. I'll say far better then T-Fort in every way. 3rd row is far better the Endy or T-Fort. I managed to squeeze in 3 row with still half a foot space from the 2nd row backrest.

Wait till it sheds Rs 1.5L by 6 months when it will roll on Indian assembly lines and see the competition hots up. Just hoping the Japs don't screw up with their poor service centres/Dealership.

They have already sold 8 and waiting period is 5 months at present.

@Harbir- If 4x4 credentials is the main thing you are after then no other 4x4 in this range will ever come close. After doing some off-road trials on T-Fort and SFX comparing back to back, SFX wins hands down. T-fort suspension on rocky hard surface is just crap(keeps hitting the stop bumps), steering on long rides is tiring due to it's stiffness, brakes are just crap(double paddle required at times at 100+ on emergency stop, brakes jumps once). No one can match the braking of SFX at any speed(Endy, T-Fort).

I have taken extensive TD(3 times) of SFX to finally say nothing beats the low end torque. Himalayan roads is where it shows it's prowess.

If you want the all the electro gadgets better cruising speed and modern look interior then go for PS. I'll say far better then the rest and if you get it now then you will have a superior product then the ones which will roll out on Indian assembly lines after 6 months.

[avimal]

When can we expect official review of PS? I am sure every body must be waiting eagerly for that

[4x4addict]

Originally Posted by Aroy

Got the two torque curves. Sports from the brochure, SFX from South Africa Site
At 1000 RPM the SFX has a minor edge, but looses out by 1500. SO if you have to crawl below 1000RPM, SFX would have a minor edge. As the Sport is about a 100 kg lighter, the difference should be minimal.

Also note that the Indian Pajero is rated for only only 108 bhp and ad 28 or 29 kgm Torque. The figures you quoted is from the 125 bhp/ 30 kgm version of the engine.

[Aroy]

Originally Posted by 4x4addict

Also note that the Indian Pajero is rated for only only 108 bhp and ad 28 or 29 kgm Torque. The figures you quoted is from the 125 bhp/ 30 kgm version of the engine.

Those specs are for the original engine. After that the engines were detuned once for BS-III and then for BS-IV. In my opinion it will be easy to restore the tuning to the original 125BHP/30kgm state.

[princey]

Been some time now since the PS got launched, full review anyone ?
Whatever happened to the official review.
Oh, and looking at the sale figures of last two months...HM have done it again and launched another dud.