VW to bring in its TSi & CRDI engines EDIT: Now launched

Mpower · 8th March 2010, 18:42

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Originally Posted by GTO

Which CRDi is the Jetta going to get? Surely not the one in the twice as expensive Passat?

Seems like it. They do have a brand new 1.6 Crdi but that engine is not much better in the lag department either.

aaggoswami · 9th March 2010, 07:50

Looks like they have huge issues in placing the cars. I always thought that skoda has made entry for VW a bit difficult.

1) Which diesel will Jetta get ? Hope its the 2.0 ltr CRDi mill from Passat. Where will passat go ? The only thing passat will have is a bit stronger brand name than Jetta.

2) This news is coming when we are again hearing about SX4 diesel. There is news about SX4 diesel coming after the launch of new Wagon R. So is there any possibility that this change is because SX4 will have a diesel from VW ?

If SX4 has the 105 bhp diesel, then it will be a sort of trouble for Jetta. People will ask many question, etc. so VW will shift to a better unit for Jetta and the old one will be thrown out to Suzuki.

This is just my thought.

3) Petrol unit. Jetta from day one deserved the TSi. So now Laura, Superb and Jetta have the same petrol unit. But I wonder if the sales chart will rise for Jetta. The diesel will still be king if CRDi mill is offered.

This makes me think that the CRDi mill in Jetta will be from Passat. Laura and Superb have similar 2.0 ltr diesels ( PD ) IIRC. Both have 1.8 tsi. VW will be making similar moves for Jetta and Passat. Both, Jetta and Passat will have 2.0 CRDi engine, and may be both will have 1.8 TSi.

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diffsoft · 9th March 2010, 08:20

The VW site for India gives no indication of the changes. Are we sure?

vb-saan · 9th March 2010, 09:16

I hope jetta will come up with the TSI (1.8 or the 1.4) with the DSG box

punitkakri · 9th March 2010, 22:01

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Originally Posted by vikramv007

i forgot to mention, it seems like VW has discontinued its DSG gearbox on all its models. Even the Passat 1.8TSI will be available only with a manual gearbox and its expected to be cheaper by atleast 7L than the current diesel passat.

Well what is you source here. Please clarify because if this is going to happen i might as well go in for the Passat. Are price cuts expected for diesel as well?
Also what about the pricing of Jetta, wont they be similar to Passat then?

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Originally Posted by GTO

Which CRDi is the Jetta going to get? Surely not the one in the twice as expensive Passat?
The Passat recently got an engine upgrade (to a common rail diesel). Why would they stop accepting books for the car then? Petrol is anyways a niche market.

YEs they shouldn`t stop taking booking for the Diesel car since it already has CRdi. Btw has the shift to CRdi have any effect on the Passat price?

rjalihal · 10th March 2010, 13:54

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Originally Posted by diffsoft

The VW site for India gives no indication of the changes. Are we sure?

Yes, same here. I checked the web site earlier and found no such news posted there. Anyways, I have a feeling that the Jetta will be powered by the 1.9L diesel. As for the Passat, like what GTO said, they must add more features to the 1.8TSI to differentiate it from the Laura TSI. Any idea if the engine will be built here or imported? Price may depend on that!

thedreamcatcher · 10th March 2010, 14:07

Great. So they finally decide to go CRDI. More mods coming into the picture now.

@Barcode. You must be happy

issigonis · 10th March 2010, 17:58

No information from my source on :
1. CRDI engines in place of PD engines on the Jetta
2. phasing out of the DSG transmission in the Jetta

I have been using the PD and the DSG in my Jetta Comfortline for the last 9 odd months ( 9300 odd kms including outstation trips) with no issues.
(Touch wood) : I'd reserve judgement and go by personal experience, rather than on hearsay.

Regards

Speeding@160mph · 10th March 2010, 19:02

Noob Question - The 2.0 TDI on the A4 is a CRDI? Or a PDI? Or is TDI completely different?

S350L-E240 · 10th March 2010, 22:06

Speeding@160mph, the 2.0TDI on the A4 is a CRDI unit.

vineethvazhayil · 11th March 2010, 10:02

Ideally they should cut the prices too. The Jetta diesel AT's price is a shocker! But yeah, when you compare, even the Laura is similarly priced. Thanks the Cruze, they have to change the engine, and hopefully the prices (downward, not upward!).

srishiva · 11th March 2010, 10:09

VW have always called their diesels TDI. So its difficult to know what underlying tech they use in their diesels anyway. Would they even bother their customers to know about this?

Yeldo · 11th March 2010, 18:15

I'm thinking of replacing my Verna, and asked about the Jetta. The PD engine has been stopped for good, and the Kochi dealer has no stock left. They expect the new car by April end, and bookings are open at Rs. 1 lac. No info on pricing or tech specs. The sales guy mentioned that "all models are having engine change"- might have meant the Passat also.

ivar1951 · 12th March 2010, 14:57

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Originally Posted by Yeldo

I'm thinking of replacing my Verna, and asked about the Jetta. The PD engine has been stopped for good, and the Kochi dealer has no stock left. They expect the new car by April end, and bookings are open at Rs. 1 lac. No info on pricing or tech specs. The sales guy mentioned that "all models are having engine change"- might have meant the Passat also.

I doubt if this news is correct. The Chandigarh dealer has know idea about the new Jetta, i.e., with the CRDi engine and, thus, he is not taking any bookings for it. Besides, why would VW keep under wraps the launch of the new model which is eagerly awaited by many?

9th March 2010, 07:50	#17
aaggoswami Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vadodara Posts: 4,982 Thanked: 2,931 Times	Looks like they have huge issues in placing the cars. I always thought that skoda has made entry for VW a bit difficult. 1) Which diesel will Jetta get ? Hope its the 2.0 ltr CRDi mill from Passat. Where will passat go ? The only thing passat will have is a bit stronger brand name than Jetta. 2) This news is coming when we are again hearing about SX4 diesel. There is news about SX4 diesel coming after the launch of new Wagon R. So is there any possibility that this change is because SX4 will have a diesel from VW ? If SX4 has the 105 bhp diesel, then it will be a sort of trouble for Jetta. People will ask many question, etc. so VW will shift to a better unit for Jetta and the old one will be thrown out to Suzuki. This is just my thought. 3) Petrol unit. Jetta from day one deserved the TSi. So now Laura, Superb and Jetta have the same petrol unit. But I wonder if the sales chart will rise for Jetta. The diesel will still be king if CRDi mill is offered. This makes me think that the CRDi mill in Jetta will be from Passat. Laura and Superb have similar 2.0 ltr diesels ( PD ) IIRC. Both have 1.8 tsi. VW will be making similar moves for Jetta and Passat. Both, Jetta and Passat will have 2.0 CRDi engine, and may be both will have 1.8 TSi. Last edited by aaggoswami : 9th March 2010 at 07:52.
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diffsoft BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 773 Thanked: 404 Times	The VW site for India gives no indication of the changes. Are we sure?
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vb-saan Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: S'pore/Thrissur Posts: 7,273 Thanked: 12,403 Times	I hope jetta will come up with the TSI (1.8 or the 1.4) with the DSG box
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thedreamcatcher Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Dubai Posts: 1,204 Thanked: 66 Times View My Garage	Great. So they finally decide to go CRDI. More mods coming into the picture now. @Barcode. You must be happy Last edited by thedreamcatcher : 10th March 2010 at 14:08.
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10th March 2010, 17:58	#24
issigonis BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bombay Posts: 956 Thanked: 95 Times	No info on CRDI introduction and on DSG phaseout No information from my source on : 1. CRDI engines in place of PD engines on the Jetta 2. phasing out of the DSG transmission in the Jetta I have been using the PD and the DSG in my Jetta Comfortline for the last 9 odd months ( 9300 odd kms including outstation trips) with no issues. (Touch wood) : I'd reserve judgement and go by personal experience, rather than on hearsay. Regards Last edited by issigonis : 10th March 2010 at 17:59. Reason: Corrected grammar
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10th March 2010, 19:02	#25
Speeding@160mph BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Delhi Posts: 185 Thanked: 6 Times	Noob Question - The 2.0 TDI on the A4 is a CRDI? Or a PDI? Or is TDI completely different?
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10th March 2010, 22:06	#26
S350L-E240 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: India Posts: 1,416 Thanked: 393 Times	Speeding@160mph, the 2.0TDI on the A4 is a CRDI unit.
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11th March 2010, 10:02	#27
vineethvazhayil Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 1,513 Thanked: 456 Times View My Garage	Ideally they should cut the prices too. The Jetta diesel AT's price is a shocker! But yeah, when you compare, even the Laura is similarly priced. Thanks the Cruze, they have to change the engine, and hopefully the prices (downward, not upward!).
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11th March 2010, 10:09	#28
srishiva Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 4,375 Thanked: 2,256 Times	VW have always called their diesels TDI. So its difficult to know what underlying tech they use in their diesels anyway. Would they even bother their customers to know about this?
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11th March 2010, 18:15	#29
Yeldo BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kochi Posts: 764 Thanked: 783 Times	I'm thinking of replacing my Verna, and asked about the Jetta. The PD engine has been stopped for good, and the Kochi dealer has no stock left. They expect the new car by April end, and bookings are open at Rs. 1 lac. No info on pricing or tech specs. The sales guy mentioned that "all models are having engine change"- might have meant the Passat also.
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