Maruti Diesel Cars :: On Its way

abhibh · 26th September 2005, 00:31

Hi,

I went to Maruti dealer in Chandigarh as i had a accident. I got a MUL insurance so i was discussing with thier executive about how much will depreciation cost me. Suddenly i asked him about when is maruti rolling out thier diesel cars as thier plants are fully setuped now and they have started production of diesel engines now.

And guess what i was surprised what the guy said. He said Maruti gonna roll out diesel cars in Jan 2006 and may be they are goign to roll out a new diesel car tooo...

Dunno how much true is this news but it will be kool if they roll out till jan 06.

So what do you guys think will they able to roll out diesel cars till jan 06? Think about it.

Bye Bye.

GTO · 26th September 2005, 00:45

Whoa - If that news is reliable then Maruti has been F-A-S-T in getting the diesel plant ready.

I guess the 1.3 JTD will power everything from the Swift to the Esteem. I think a diesel Swift will be really really appealing.

GTO

v_s_natarajan · 26th September 2005, 10:30

i am thinking of M800's using a small compact diesel.
giving a mileage of 30/40kms/litre

abhibh · 26th September 2005, 11:42

One more thing. I was checking threads on Team BHP forum. and i saw a thread about maruti including CRDi engines in their diesel cars. Is that true?

Man this suspense should get over fast because this time i want to buy a good car. I dont wanna go on looks like i did when i bought new Zen about 1.5 yrs ago.

Sahil · 26th September 2005, 12:03

What maruti needs to boost Vitara sales is a diesel engine...with the new Vitara launched abroad it wont be far that we have it on our roads too....the new Vitara is much crisper looking and packs some really smart interiors too....for the first time it does feel like an 18 lakh SUV but to really set the ball rolling for maruti in the SUV segment is to come up with a CRDI engine to launch with the new Vitara. If they can work out their pricing to fall lower with the diesel variant than it will be an open War against the much awaited Toyota Fortuner.
Here's a sneak peek at the new Vitara launched in the US recently for those who havent seen it.... http://www.suzukiauto.com/sr_06/gran...y/exterior.php

normally_crazy · 26th September 2005, 13:12

Nothing that ive heard on the diesel cars from MUL. Last I heard the diesels will be launched only in the last quarter of 2006. Time to snoop around i guess. Will have to talk to MUL guys and try and get some info.

Will get back.

cheers

hasopi · 26th September 2005, 13:23

But since FIAT has tied up with TATA..I wonder whether FIAT will supply its JTD diesel technology to Maruti? What Maruti will do in that case since they dont get diesel engine from Peugoet anymore?

TATA wont allow it also..because Maruti is their direct competitor..

DCEite · 26th September 2005, 16:40

Even i have heard some rumours about WagonR+ 1.3 JTd. Dont know if it is produced anywhere else in the world, but the first Maruti Diesel should really be the WagonR+

abhibh · 26th September 2005, 19:59

Hasopi this is to clarify you. Maruti contract with fiat finished last year. That is why MUL doesnt have any diesel cars sellign in market. They have settuped thier own diesel engines plant and have started production on engines.

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Originally Posted by hasopi

But since FIAT has tied up with TATA..I wonder whether FIAT will supply its JTD diesel technology to Maruti? What Maruti will do in that case since they dont get diesel engine from Peugoet anymore?

TATA wont allow it also..because Maruti is their direct competitor..

hasopi · 27th September 2005, 12:14

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Originally Posted by abhibh

Hasopi this is to clarify you. Maruti contract with fiat finished last year. That is why MUL doesnt have any diesel cars sellign in market. They have settuped thier own diesel engines plant and have started production on engines.

Buddy..its the contract with Peugoet that got over last year. Maruti (Suzuki ) had entered into a new contract with FIAT this year.

http://www.bsmotoring.com/2004/may29_2.htm

Its with FIAT know-how Maruti is setting up a diesel engine plant now. Correct me If I am wrong here.

That was a few months back when FIAT did not had an alliance with TATA.

But now its an altogether different picture..its clear that TATA & FIAT is going to have alliance globally. So naturally, TATA will force FIAT, not to supply its diesel know-how to Maruti.

So unless, Maruti had foreseen this prior to signing the contract, they are going to be in a fix. Where to get diesel engines?

amit · 27th September 2005, 18:34

Suzuki launched the Swift in UK with a DDis diesel engine which is a "derivative" of Fiat's Multi-jet is what i read on business standard motoring some time back. ( of course the engine was the multi-jet just re-badged ddis but suzuki wouldn't want to tell people that)
If fiat and tata have a global alliance then suzuki shouldn't be allowed to use fiat's diesels globally right? Anyway, from what i know Suzuki and fiat have a stake in each other and thats why they are into platform and engine sharing. This alliance doesn't change that stake, so I guess things shouldn't change for maruti. For example in Europe the Opel Corsa and the Fiat Punto are sold with the Multi-jet diesel so I don't see any reason why maruti swift, tata indica and fiat palio can't compete against each other after having the same multi-jet engine.

hasopi · 27th September 2005, 18:42

Going by the current trend of alliances with in Auto Majors..soooner we will have only type of car in a segment but different names & stickers :-)

hell_rider · 27th September 2005, 23:12

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Originally Posted by hasopi

Going by the current trend of alliances with in Auto Majors..soooner we will have only type of car in a segment but different names & stickers :-)

very true. and every car you buy, will eventually be american.

abhibh · 28th September 2005, 00:09

Maruti has allready settuped their plants and have started production of engines as i heared in news.

Mpower · 28th September 2005, 04:18

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Originally Posted by dceite

Even i have heard some rumours about WagonR+ 1.3 JTd. Dont know if it is produced anywhere else in the world, but the first Maruti Diesel should really be the WagonR+

Wagon R+ is offered with the 70hp 1.3 Fiat diesel in Europe, as is the Opel Agila.

BUt is the Indian version a Wagon R or a Wagon R+. May not fit into a regular Wagon R.

26th September 2005, 00:31	#1
abhibh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Back in the HOOD near you! Posts: 2,768 Thanked: 39 Times	Maruti Diesel Cars :: On Its way Hi, I went to Maruti dealer in Chandigarh as i had a accident. I got a MUL insurance so i was discussing with thier executive about how much will depreciation cost me. Suddenly i asked him about when is maruti rolling out thier diesel cars as thier plants are fully setuped now and they have started production of diesel engines now. And guess what i was surprised what the guy said. He said Maruti gonna roll out diesel cars in Jan 2006 and may be they are goign to roll out a new diesel car tooo... Dunno how much true is this news but it will be kool if they roll out till jan 06. So what do you guys think will they able to roll out diesel cars till jan 06? Think about it. Bye Bye.
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26th September 2005, 00:45	#2
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,528 Thanked: 300,719 Times View My Garage	Whoa - If that news is reliable then Maruti has been F-A-S-T in getting the diesel plant ready. I guess the 1.3 JTD will power everything from the Swift to the Esteem. I think a diesel Swift will be really really appealing. GTO
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26th September 2005, 10:30	#3
v_s_natarajan BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: chennai Posts: 261 Thanked: 3 Times	m800 diesel i am thinking of M800's using a small compact diesel. giving a mileage of 30/40kms/litre
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26th September 2005, 11:42	#4
abhibh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Back in the HOOD near you! Posts: 2,768 Thanked: 39 Times	One more thing. I was checking threads on Team BHP forum. and i saw a thread about maruti including CRDi engines in their diesel cars. Is that true? Man this suspense should get over fast because this time i want to buy a good car. I dont wanna go on looks like i did when i bought new Zen about 1.5 yrs ago.
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26th September 2005, 12:03	#5
Sahil Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 6,292 Thanked: 7,607 Times	What maruti needs to boost Vitara sales is a diesel engine...with the new Vitara launched abroad it wont be far that we have it on our roads too....the new Vitara is much crisper looking and packs some really smart interiors too....for the first time it does feel like an 18 lakh SUV but to really set the ball rolling for maruti in the SUV segment is to come up with a CRDI engine to launch with the new Vitara. If they can work out their pricing to fall lower with the diesel variant than it will be an open War against the much awaited Toyota Fortuner. Here's a sneak peek at the new Vitara launched in the US recently for those who havent seen it.... http://www.suzukiauto.com/sr_06/gran...y/exterior.php Last edited by Sahil : 26th September 2005 at 12:06.
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26th September 2005, 13:12	#6
normally_crazy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,369 Thanked: 528 Times View My Garage	Nothing that ive heard on the diesel cars from MUL. Last I heard the diesels will be launched only in the last quarter of 2006. Time to snoop around i guess. Will have to talk to MUL guys and try and get some info. Will get back. cheers
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26th September 2005, 13:23	#7
hasopi BANNED Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 177 Thanked: 0 Times	But since FIAT has tied up with TATA..I wonder whether FIAT will supply its JTD diesel technology to Maruti? What Maruti will do in that case since they dont get diesel engine from Peugoet anymore? TATA wont allow it also..because Maruti is their direct competitor.. Last edited by hasopi : 26th September 2005 at 13:25.
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26th September 2005, 16:40	#8
DCEite Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NCR Posts: 3,417 Thanked: 2,554 Times	Even i have heard some rumours about WagonR+ 1.3 JTd. Dont know if it is produced anywhere else in the world, but the first Maruti Diesel should really be the WagonR+
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27th September 2005, 18:34	#11
amit Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 3,717 Thanked: 449 Times	Suzuki launched the Swift in UK with a DDis diesel engine which is a "derivative" of Fiat's Multi-jet is what i read on business standard motoring some time back. ( of course the engine was the multi-jet just re-badged ddis but suzuki wouldn't want to tell people that) If fiat and tata have a global alliance then suzuki shouldn't be allowed to use fiat's diesels globally right? Anyway, from what i know Suzuki and fiat have a stake in each other and thats why they are into platform and engine sharing. This alliance doesn't change that stake, so I guess things shouldn't change for maruti. For example in Europe the Opel Corsa and the Fiat Punto are sold with the Multi-jet diesel so I don't see any reason why maruti swift, tata indica and fiat palio can't compete against each other after having the same multi-jet engine. Last edited by amit : 27th September 2005 at 18:40.
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27th September 2005, 18:42	#12
hasopi BANNED Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 177 Thanked: 0 Times	Going by the current trend of alliances with in Auto Majors..soooner we will have only type of car in a segment but different names & stickers :-)
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28th September 2005, 00:09	#14
abhibh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Back in the HOOD near you! Posts: 2,768 Thanked: 39 Times	Maruti has allready settuped their plants and have started production of engines as i heared in news.
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