Logan prices slashed by Rs. 50,000. End of the road for Mahindra-Renault?

naru · 15th March 2010, 20:16

End of the road in sight?

From PTI wire service:

Logan dealers offer up to Rs 50,000 discounts

New Delhi, Mar 15 (PTI) At a time when most automakers have gone for a price rise following the excise duty hike in the Budget, dealers of the troubled Mahindra Renault across the country are offering up to Rs 50,000 discounts on sedan Logan.
Dealers said discounts of various rates are available for both diesel and petrol variants of Logan, felling speculations that they were trying to liquidate stock as question mark continues to hang over the future of the JV between Mahindra & Mahindra and French auto maker Renault.
“A discount of Rs 50,000 is offered on both diesel and petrol variants and is valid till the end of this month,” a National Capital-based dealer told PTI.
Similarly, a Guwahati-based dealer said discount of Rs 18,000 will be available on diesel version and Rs 50,000 on petrol variant. A dealer in Mumbai also offered similar discounts.
With the Logan failing to make its mark in the Indian market selling just 4,981 units in the April-February period of 2009-10, down 60.03 per cent from the year-ago period, Mahindra and Renault have been discussing the future of the JV.
In fact, Renault-Nissan alliance Chief Carlos Ghosn had said at the recent Geneva Motor Show that he will spell out the future of the JV when he comes to India for the inauguration of the Nissan plant in Chennai. The event will be held on Wednesday.
In February, both Renault and Mahindra had said they will disclose the future roadmap of the JV within 30-45 days.

Sudan_NFS · 15th March 2010, 20:42

I think this offer might be due to a facelifted Logan which was in pipe line.So we might except a new logan or a facelifted logan soon or end of JV too.

does anyone have nay scoop on this?

acidkill · 15th March 2010, 20:59

Logan with improved looks = Renault / Dacia Sandero

Check it out on the renault global website below. I dont know why they didnt bring in this variant in the first place.

Renault.com - Renault Sandero
Renault.com - Dacia Sandero

McLaren Rulez · 15th March 2010, 21:00

So 50k less to have undetectable sex in parking lots?

nickatnite · 16th March 2010, 02:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by McLaren Rulez

So 50k less to have undetectable sex in parking lots?

Aah!. Your comment might just result in a sudden spurt in Logan sales nationwide!. Many a true word is spoken in jest.

donarun · 16th March 2010, 08:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sudan_NFS

I think this offer might be due to a facelifted Logan which was in pipe line.So we might except a new logan or a facelifted logan soon or end of JV too.

does anyone have nay scoop on this?

There was an announcement about the end of JV btw Renault and M&M in paper last week. IMO this could be the reason for the discounts as both parties might be looking to flush out last of the stocks.

Samurai · 16th March 2010, 08:37

Cab drivers who bought Logans are crying. Apparently the spare parts take a long time to come after ordering.

YellowEye · 16th March 2010, 13:52

my family has just bought a sandero in germany and i drove it while we had -12° C in Berlin. It is a good buy. Nothing fancy but but definitly in Germany a huge success due to prices and robust quality.

I never understood Renault with the more than outdated logan in India. They could have release their Dacias in the first place.

GTO · 16th March 2010, 19:42

What a coincidence! Just this morning, I lit up a Marlboro in the balcony, looked at my neighbour's black Logan parked downstairs and thought "Man, that car looks 20 years too old already".

This discount is a classic case of too little, too late. Mahindra should have originally priced the Logan about a lakh cheaper, and on par with the Indigo from day one. The game has moved on with the Dzire and Manza now. Today, the Logan doesn't stand a chance, whatever the price. Think about this : the top-loaded Manza is cheaper than the top-loaded Logan!

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickatnite

Aah!. Your comment might just result in a sudden spurt in Logan sales nationwide!. Many a true word is spoken in jest.

You haven't missed this thread, have you? MUST WATCH! Seriously.

Mpower · 16th March 2010, 20:05

Cutting price is a stop gap measure to keep the production lines rolling. I hope Renault is working on a design makeover.

I'd rather pay 50K more for a good looking redesigned Logan than buy this for 50K less.

ashutoshb · 16th March 2010, 20:22

MRPL (Mahindra Renault PL) have offered discounts upto 50k several times.. so nothing new here. They must be clearing out their '09 stock.

One point that needs to be mentioned here.. end of MRPL doesn't neccesarily mean end of the Logan.

MRPL can be taken over by Renault India and then manufacturing, marketing, A.S.S. will be theirs.

Ghosn has clearly said that he still sees potential in the Logan. Maybe soon we will do see an updated Logan in the near future.

abhi1309 · 16th March 2010, 20:32

They'd rather not discontinue this car and forever spoil their name in the Indian market. Anyway everyone looks at Renault as Peugeot for some reason. The facelifted one will come for sure but not soon because they will take time to localise it to get the costs down which I believe has not been done already. And by time, I mean a lot of time. Look at the time Figo took to come at that price, even if it shared half or more with the Fiesta and Fusion. So the new facelifted and localized Logan is still a while away. I doubt anyone will buy it unless they park it in the same showroom as the Micra from July. Parking it in Mahindra showrooms is a recipe for disaster and no sane buyer looking for a sedan is entering an M&M dealership. Only one sedan that too like Logan does not go too well with a showroom full of Xylo's, Scorpio's and Maxx's. I am sure Renault will pull the Logan to themselves.

sidindica · 16th March 2010, 21:32

Just saw a TV commercial for the same offer. Logan petrol at 4.4 lacs onwards.

jaysmokesleaves · 16th March 2010, 21:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTO

....., looked at my neighbour's black Logan parked downstairs and thought "Man, that car looks 20 years too old already".

Today, the Logan doesn't stand a chance, whatever the price. Think about this : the top-loaded Manza is cheaper than the top-loaded Logan!

Couldnt agree with you enough. i see a Logan parked next to my parking and everyday I see it I wonder the same thing. Does it have any resale at all...?

YC.BALENO.CHD · 16th March 2010, 22:01

Good, discontinue it and bring in the Clio V6.

15th March 2010, 20:16	#1
naru BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: NCR Posts: 132 Thanked: 37 Times	Logan prices slashed by Rs. 50,000. End of the road for Mahindra-Renault? End of the road in sight? From PTI wire service: Logan dealers offer up to Rs 50,000 discounts New Delhi, Mar 15 (PTI) At a time when most automakers have gone for a price rise following the excise duty hike in the Budget, dealers of the troubled Mahindra Renault across the country are offering up to Rs 50,000 discounts on sedan Logan. Dealers said discounts of various rates are available for both diesel and petrol variants of Logan, felling speculations that they were trying to liquidate stock as question mark continues to hang over the future of the JV between Mahindra & Mahindra and French auto maker Renault. “A discount of Rs 50,000 is offered on both diesel and petrol variants and is valid till the end of this month,” a National Capital-based dealer told PTI. Similarly, a Guwahati-based dealer said discount of Rs 18,000 will be available on diesel version and Rs 50,000 on petrol variant. A dealer in Mumbai also offered similar discounts. With the Logan failing to make its mark in the Indian market selling just 4,981 units in the April-February period of 2009-10, down 60.03 per cent from the year-ago period, Mahindra and Renault have been discussing the future of the JV. In fact, Renault-Nissan alliance Chief Carlos Ghosn had said at the recent Geneva Motor Show that he will spell out the future of the JV when he comes to India for the inauguration of the Nissan plant in Chennai. The event will be held on Wednesday. In February, both Renault and Mahindra had said they will disclose the future roadmap of the JV within 30-45 days.
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15th March 2010, 20:42	#2
Sudan_NFS BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: chennai Posts: 759 Thanked: 16 Times	I think this offer might be due to a facelifted Logan which was in pipe line.So we might except a new logan or a facelifted logan soon or end of JV too. does anyone have nay scoop on this?
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15th March 2010, 20:59	#3
acidkill BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Chennai Posts: 420 Thanked: 137 Times	Logan with improved looks = Renault / Dacia Sandero Check it out on the renault global website below. I dont know why they didnt bring in this variant in the first place. Renault.com - Renault Sandero Renault.com - Dacia Sandero Last edited by acidkill : 15th March 2010 at 21:05.
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15th March 2010, 21:00	#4
McLaren Rulez Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mysore Posts: 3,390 Thanked: 5,107 Times	So 50k less to have undetectable sex in parking lots?
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16th March 2010, 08:37	#7
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 25,828 Thanked: 45,521 Times View My Garage	Cab drivers who bought Logans are crying. Apparently the spare parts take a long time to come after ordering.
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16th March 2010, 13:52	#8
YellowEye BHPian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chennai Posts: 30 Thanked: 39 Times	my family has just bought a sandero in germany and i drove it while we had -12° C in Berlin. It is a good buy. Nothing fancy but but definitly in Germany a huge success due to prices and robust quality. I never understood Renault with the more than outdated logan in India. They could have release their Dacias in the first place.
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16th March 2010, 20:05	#10
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,730 Times View My Garage	Cutting price is a stop gap measure to keep the production lines rolling. I hope Renault is working on a design makeover. I'd rather pay 50K more for a good looking redesigned Logan than buy this for 50K less.
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16th March 2010, 20:22	#11
ashutoshb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NOIDA Posts: 1,756 Thanked: 4,288 Times View My Garage	MRPL (Mahindra Renault PL) have offered discounts upto 50k several times.. so nothing new here. They must be clearing out their '09 stock. One point that needs to be mentioned here.. end of MRPL doesn't neccesarily mean end of the Logan. MRPL can be taken over by Renault India and then manufacturing, marketing, A.S.S. will be theirs. Ghosn has clearly said that he still sees potential in the Logan. Maybe soon we will do see an updated Logan in the near future.
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16th March 2010, 20:32	#12
abhi1309 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 446 Thanked: 68 Times View My Garage	They'd rather not discontinue this car and forever spoil their name in the Indian market. Anyway everyone looks at Renault as Peugeot for some reason. The facelifted one will come for sure but not soon because they will take time to localise it to get the costs down which I believe has not been done already. And by time, I mean a lot of time. Look at the time Figo took to come at that price, even if it shared half or more with the Fiesta and Fusion. So the new facelifted and localized Logan is still a while away. I doubt anyone will buy it unless they park it in the same showroom as the Micra from July. Parking it in Mahindra showrooms is a recipe for disaster and no sane buyer looking for a sedan is entering an M&M dealership. Only one sedan that too like Logan does not go too well with a showroom full of Xylo's, Scorpio's and Maxx's. I am sure Renault will pull the Logan to themselves.
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16th March 2010, 21:32	#13
sidindica Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 4,892 Thanked: 8,106 Times	Just saw a TV commercial for the same offer. Logan petrol at 4.4 lacs onwards.
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16th March 2010, 22:01	#15
YC.BALENO.CHD Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 1,128 Thanked: 261 Times View My Garage	Good, discontinue it and bring in the Clio V6.
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