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Originally Posted by sam_sant2005 You own one of the best luxury sedans in town, both class and power. Downshifting from Magnum is, to me, suicidal! Instead my suggestion is, go buy an Alto or if not an i10 for city use. With two cars your pride will further increase |
I am sure it is suicidal
I will miss those 120bhps madly. I am not considering buying a second small car, thats not "downshifting"
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Originally Posted by smartcat I am seriously considering "downshifting" from my 1.8 Petrol Optra LT to a diesel Grande Punto or i20. Reasons why I'm thinking about downshifting:
- My "Big car" has only a driver airbag. Modern small cars have dual airbags, ABS & EBD. Some like i20 have 6 airbags.
- I do 15,000 to 20,000 km a year - so I need a car with low running & maintenance costs.
- My big car has comforts like sunroof & leather interiors. However, I can add a sunroof from Webasto and head to Stanley Boutique for some nice cow skin!
- My big car has electric gadgets like auto folding mirrors, 5 CD changer & 8 speakers. But who listens to CD anymore? Modern small cars like Punto/i20 have USB MP3 playback, and speakers can be replaced with new ones. i20's gadget list is truly mindboggling.
- My big car is a good looking car designed by Pininfarina (Italy). But nothing in comparison to the true Italian Grande Punto.
- My big car can hit 100 kmph in 11 seconds. But small diesel cars have better driveability.
- My big car has a big boot (405 litres) for highway runs. But small cars like Punto/i20 are not bad in the department (280 & 300 litres).
- My big car has excellent leg room in the rear. But I don't have friends or relatives who are 6 feet tall who will be using all that space!
- My big car gives me respect and prestige (" Hmm, looks like this guy is quite well to do"). But I have to shell out more money when traffic cops get hold of me. And street vendors rip me off by charging me 20% more when I take my car to do vegetable shopping |
Agree with you, I am following your small car analysis thread, though the Punto is finding place towards the end, it is still on top for me.
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Originally Posted by Fordmanchau I think people who own a sedan sould stick to Sedans. A boot though occasionally used comes handy when you have to load the luggage. All car can seat five,even a M800 but if you need to pack people with luggage, then you need a boot.And that one time when your boot is utilised, you feel like you are blessed to have a car with a boot.I have utilised my Ikon's boot a lot many times. Though most times it's just me and my wife, but whenever we have relatives visiting and the boot is packed, we feel that we invested wisely in a sedan.
No downgrades for me to a hatch. It has to be Sedan. But can think of a hatch as a second car. |
I agree with you on occasional use of boot, when needed, it is the best thing to have.
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Originally Posted by mkh All are only useful on the highway. I am contemplating moving to a hatch but the problem is that all the hatches are underpowered when it comes to having the occasional full 5 seated. |
If there was hatch that could match the power of Magnum, for me decision would have been easier. Palio 1.6 or Fusion 1.6 or even Fiesta 1.6 (although Sedan) can not satiate my appetite after owning Magnum for 2+ years.
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Originally Posted by sukrit7 why will it be considered a downgrade?
modern hatches provide as much comfort and safety as sedans,also lower costs and so much easier to park/drive in limited space. it's a sensible choice. I for one would probably get a hatchback once I sell the baleno |
With the kind of hatches being launched and are available today, i am sure it is not truely downgrading. Everyone dreams of a big car, own one and then you start dreaming about another big car. That has been the mentality of of humans. However, believe you me after seeing the recent hatch launches, I started dreaming about a Hatchback, thats why this thread. Otherwise i was planning to upgrade in next few years to Fortuner or something similar.
Having said that, as many as 90% people will not recognise a premium hatch, for them small car is a small car. Doesnt matter if drive around 8-9 lac Fabia/I20/Jazz.
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Originally Posted by sidindica I got a shock in 2000 when my dad sent off his 1994 padmini for good and purchased a daewoo matiz. I just thought-big things come in small packages and just after experiencing the amount of legroom in the matiz, all my thoughts were quelled. nippy little fun to drive hatch, it was a marvel in interior packaging and served us for well over six figure kms before we replaced it with the santro in 2006. I simply hate the legspace on offer inside the santro as compared to matiz.
In our localities, maybe due to size constraints or parking problems, 2 people sold off their 8 year old accents for i10 kappas. |
Sid, I think age old padmini to Matiz is an upgrade, I am talking about owning a truely big luxorious and powerfull car then down shifting to a Hatch.
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Originally Posted by vinaydas we have a Palio , an Innova and a Camry so concept of downshifting does not apply as we already have vehicles of different segments.
personally i don't feel either the innova or the camry a pain to drive in the city.
The Congested roads make even a biker to suffer in the city , so a few extra CM's of wheelbase really matter.
running costs are a different issue altogether. |
Spot on, I drive my Jiju Petrol Innova around the city and on highways, have driven Ikon for a year and driving a Magnum since last 2+ years. I personally never found it difficult to drive or to park. Still i mentioned that as a reason to change from big car to small car, because many people find hatchbacks better and easy to drive and park.
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Originally Posted by v&v Real coincidence to find this thread. I am in process of down shift one of my sedan.
Reason - Parking - At residence a big issue
Economics - Planning a diesel hatchback - Daily running 80-120 kms /day
Lower cost of maintenance and running cost.
My wify too want to drive around - A strict no no to my baleno and safari.
Of course my view of down shifting holds good if you own multiple cars, otherwise i am not in for it. |
Of course if you have another big car in home, its not downshifting then. You get small car as your second car.
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By the way I ripped my Magnum one more time this morning, ohh my god what a power.
Fiat please bring on the Punto Sports.