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Would it ok to state that the 1999 or 2000 models have a better engine reliablity than the assembled ones or is this is myth.
THe NHC, with the V-tec engine is very good. I have driven the NHC,but the looks of the new NHC is far more refined than the older counter part.
Have nt driven the V-tec yet...but i am sure it should be a delight to drive
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I myself own a 2003 lancer 1.5 sfxi. The engine even today is not audible in the city or when idle. What more proof can i give for reliability. And as Lambo said Hm also makes those wonderful ikon engines which people love.
The OHC vtec certainly had a better engine and lancer had better ride and handling. Never seen such fierce competitors in the Indian automobile history.
The new vtec is a tad underpowered and unsatisfying. it goes down 6bhp plus grows in weight by around a 100kgs. Cant see it reach the ton before 12 secs anyways until HOnda has some other gizmo in the engine.
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Devarish, do you not consider the depreciation on each of these cars? Factor that into account, and the NHC is the cheapest.
How much do you think the Baleno or Lancer would sell at in the used market in 3 years time? The Baleno will surely get another price cut soon, while the Lancer is on its last legs about to be replaced with the Cedia. So that Rs.52K "premium" on the NHC will save you atleast a lakh when it comes time to sell it.
I'm no fan of the NHC, but you have to accept hard facts.
P.S.: do we really need 2 seperate threads talking about the same topic? We should continue this in the previous thread.
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Rtech I didnt consider the resale value because as Shuvc mentioned there wont be much of a difference(barely 25k) after 5years(not 3 as most people keep their cars for atleast 5 years.)
but here are some resale figures to just give you a glimpse. (source:-
www.jmdcars.com)
honda city gxi = 6.00(2003)
maruti baleno vxi=4.00( 2003) (lower spec first genereation model)
mitsubishi lancer glxi= 4.85 (2003)(lx is better equipped)
The current lancer is not to be discontinued but HM is giving it a complete facelift at the current price range so expect the resale value to be static for some years and into the NHC territory
same goes for the baleno which is currently selling like hot cakes.The auto a/c and new wheels and interiors will give it a static resale.
PS:- That thread is only about NHC so I decided to give a comparo to these three cars in a different thread.
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I just differ on the price point, having spoken to MUL and HM this week.
The 6.59 L price has 2 hitches .. it includes the finance discount and it is for the BSII models. HM Kolkata is not selling BSII models as they won't be able to register those cars in this city.
If one compares the LXi then it would be 1.2L cheaper even with tyre and audio upgrade. But lets not go there as there are other little features missing in that model (remote locking, defogger, spoiler, climate control etc)
Given this, as per your point system, the Baleno would slightly edge out the Lancer.
All said and done, if I were in the market for one, it would have been vvvv hard to decide between the Baleno and the Lancer. Both are offering VFM deals. NHC would not have been considered.
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Shuvc I am not in India at present so I played safe with the pricing front and took the prices from their respective websites.
mitsubishi lancer is priced at 6.59(offcially advertised) for all lx models(BSII and BSIII) and HM has confirmed this in the press releases.Kolkata must be different due to emission norms but just a thought.
maruti baleno's prices are updated as of 8 october 2005 on marutibaleno.com. The prices their I suppose are for the new look baleno@ 7.05
Same with NHC. The hondacarindia.com website mentions the price to be 7.57 for the new zx gxi models.
Shuvc I selected the lx model lancer against the baleno vxi and NHC gxi as LX has all the features as the competing cars (price for alloys, stereo and spoiler is added up)
AS lambo rightly said Lancer as of today is a hugely underestimated car as HM-mitsubishi has not adhered to the new marketing tactics.
I believe the rating scale I gave above had some limitations so I will be putting up a new one on a scale of ten to help make judgements better with current resale included.