Maruti to launch CNG SX4, Alto, Estilo, Wagon-R and Eeco? EDIT : Launched

kapilvgupta · 16th August 2010, 11:09

a bit on the i-GPI technology

Quote:

The i-GPI technology is a Dual ECU (Engine Control Unit) technology. This highly reliable system delivers accurate amounts of gas to the engine thus ensuring improved and consistent performance under various driving conditions. The i-GPI technology uses separate injectors for each cylinder. Based on inputs from the ECU, metered CNG quantity is injected to the engine through gas ports. The quantity of CNG required for different driving conditions is controlled by the dedicated ECU, leading to more efficient fuel usage.
source Autocar India

assuming that the Autocar article is correct, I believe that one would get similar performance in both CNG & perol mode. I think that this improved CNG performance would require more CNG (CNG has lower calorific value that petrol) thus CNG consumption may be a bit higher than with regular CNG kits (assuming regular kits are tuned for efficiency) but on the other hand the use of separate injectors and ECU would provide efficient metering of CNG....can someone please shed some light on the issue

SAS · 17th August 2010, 00:28

Well, there's no free lunch. Maruti have uploaded the specs on their respective car websites. There is indeed a drop in power, the HP for the Alto drops by 16% and torque by 13%, which was expected. The compression ratios are not high enough, however the losses which potentially would have been are somewhat with the advanced timing.

The small power loss is a small price to pay for the high savings which one can obtain. The SX4 is looking very tempting now and even though it would have a lower power, it's an amazing package. The CNG aveo sells for substantially less, but I'd pick up the SX4 anyday

Too bad I already converted my Alto 6 months back...

ruchirtnt · 18th August 2010, 10:02

the SX4 CNG is termed as SX4 Green, and the cost of Ex showroom Delhi is as follows:

MARUTI SX4 GREEN VXI 746872.98

this is a input taken from marutisx4.com

acidkill · 18th August 2010, 19:50

Any idea is CNG is available in Chennai? If yes, can u provide a link which specifies the locations where it is available?

I cant find anything so far...

Mpower · 18th August 2010, 19:57

IIRC Bangalore and Chennai are LPG cities. Mumbai and NCR are CNG.

PS: LPG Wagon-R is back

Screwdriva · 18th August 2010, 21:03

Maruti has botched this one up. There is no Auto transmission option. Nor do we get the higher trim Zxi variant?

Does Maruti believe that only Tourist Taxi operators will buy this car?

This could have been the first affordable (running cost) automatic CNG vehicle sold in India. When you think about how Indians avoid auto tranny cars because of higher fuel consumption, a CNG Auto car makes perfect sense!

Not to the folks at Maruti it would seem!

ruchirtnt · 20th August 2010, 09:25

i think they have started of with a CNG option in VXI just for the test purpose and if it will be acceptable to the people, then they might launch the same for higher variants as well, not a bad strategy.

tanwaramit · 20th August 2010, 12:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Screwdriva

Maruti has botched this one up. There is no Auto transmission option. Nor do we get the higher trim Zxi variant?

Does Maruti believe that only Tourist Taxi operators will buy this car?

This could have been the first affordable (running cost) automatic CNG vehicle sold in India. When you think about how Indians avoid auto tranny cars because of higher fuel consumption, a CNG Auto car makes perfect sense!

Not to the folks at Maruti it would seem!

I agree with you, nobody seems to be interested in selling AT cars with CNG.

Hyundai doesnt sell i10 or i20 AT with CNG. though it sells i10 manual with IRDE with CNG.

SX4 AT with CNG, any problem with that ? Maruti should have launched it.

sidindica · 28th August 2010, 15:38

CNG Eeco pics

Neatly tucked in CNG selector switch. This is the 5 seater AC model. CNG also available in 5 seater non AC models.

Maruti to launch CNG SX4, Alto, Estilo, Wagon-R and Eeco? EDIT : Launched-photo0916.jpg

Engine viewed from under the driver's seat. No mishmash or any visible CNG wiring harness. Bay looks neat. Whats that blue polythene for ?

Maruti to launch CNG SX4, Alto, Estilo, Wagon-R and Eeco? EDIT : Launched-photo0917.jpg

engine as viewed from under co driver's seat. 1.2 4 cylinder G series BS 4 motor.

Maruti to launch CNG SX4, Alto, Estilo, Wagon-R and Eeco? EDIT : Launched-photo0918.jpg

basic no frills dashboard.

Maruti to launch CNG SX4, Alto, Estilo, Wagon-R and Eeco? EDIT : Launched-photo0919.jpg

10 KG cylinder looks pretty small in such a big car. Caged for safety reasons from the factory. Its a factory fitted CNG fit, not an aftermarket or dealer kit.

Maruti to launch CNG SX4, Alto, Estilo, Wagon-R and Eeco? EDIT : Launched-photo0921.jpg

"green" decal to distinguish the CNG eeco from its petrol counterpart.

Maruti to launch CNG SX4, Alto, Estilo, Wagon-R and Eeco? EDIT : Launched-photo0923.jpg

rear end. I have sent a request for a short first drive to the dealer. Hope I get to drive one soon. CNG eeco does not have any waiting as of now.

Maruti to launch CNG SX4, Alto, Estilo, Wagon-R and Eeco? EDIT : Launched-photo0924.jpg

nitrous · 28th August 2010, 16:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid

engine as viewed from under co driver's seat. 1.2 4 cylinder G series BS 4 motor.

I didn't know a G12 existed until now.
Or is that actually a G?

blackasta · 28th August 2010, 18:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by tanwaramit

I agree with you, nobody seems to be interested in selling AT cars with CNG.

Hyundai doesnt sell i10 or i20 AT with CNG. though it sells i10 manual with IRDE with CNG.

SX4 AT with CNG, any problem with that ? Maruti should have launched it.

I guess AT cars as well as CNG cars have lesser/slower power delivery compared to manual shift cars. Pair them and you might end up with a tortoise on road.
Any takers / critics of this theory? Please pour in!

Is the i10 a factory fit (see no options in the website) or a dealer fit?

aaggoswami · 28th August 2010, 18:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrous

I didn't know a G12 existed until now.
Or is that actually a G?

Yes, its G12 with 71.0mm bore and a stroke of 75.5mm. G13 had 74 mm bore and 75.5 mm stroke. For G12 the bore is reduced from 74mm to 71 mm. Initially it was thought that K12M might find its way, but eventually G12 came up.

yogiii · 28th August 2010, 19:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackasta

Is the i10 a factory fit (see no options in the website) or a dealer fit?

i10's kit is a dealer fit same as with Santro Xing

supremeBaleno · 28th August 2010, 23:03

Yawn!!!
Those blue-eyed guys at MSIL should be knowing that nothing sells in India like diesel.

Who wants CNG, especially in South India where the only gas that sells is LPG ?
Forget the 90bhp diesel. All they need to do is plonk the 1.3l DDiS in the SX4 and they can see a waiting period. That's how much we love diesels. Atleast down south.

Mpower · 28th August 2010, 23:51

Is ARAI providing a FE numbers for CNG vehicles?

We tend to assume that all CNG vehicles are equally cheap to run without comparing them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidindica

Neatly tucked in CNG selector switch. This is the 5 seater AC model. CNG also available in 5 seater non AC models.

Thanks Sid. How about a road test review?

17th August 2010, 00:28	#32
SAS BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 296 Thanked: 83 Times View My Garage	Well, there's no free lunch. Maruti have uploaded the specs on their respective car websites. There is indeed a drop in power, the HP for the Alto drops by 16% and torque by 13%, which was expected. The compression ratios are not high enough, however the losses which potentially would have been are somewhat with the advanced timing. The small power loss is a small price to pay for the high savings which one can obtain. The SX4 is looking very tempting now and even though it would have a lower power, it's an amazing package. The CNG aveo sells for substantially less, but I'd pick up the SX4 anyday Too bad I already converted my Alto 6 months back...
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18th August 2010, 10:02	#33
ruchirtnt Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 1,065 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	the SX4 CNG is termed as SX4 Green, and the cost of Ex showroom Delhi is as follows: MARUTI SX4 GREEN VXI 746872.98 this is a input taken from marutisx4.com
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18th August 2010, 19:50	#34
acidkill BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Chennai Posts: 420 Thanked: 137 Times	Any idea is CNG is available in Chennai? If yes, can u provide a link which specifies the locations where it is available? I cant find anything so far...
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18th August 2010, 19:57	#35
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,729 Times View My Garage	IIRC Bangalore and Chennai are LPG cities. Mumbai and NCR are CNG. PS: LPG Wagon-R is back
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18th August 2010, 21:03	#36
Screwdriva BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: London/ Bombay Posts: 582 Thanked: 527 Times View My Garage	No Auto? No Zxi? Maruti has botched this one up. There is no Auto transmission option. Nor do we get the higher trim Zxi variant? Does Maruti believe that only Tourist Taxi operators will buy this car? This could have been the first affordable (running cost) automatic CNG vehicle sold in India. When you think about how Indians avoid auto tranny cars because of higher fuel consumption, a CNG Auto car makes perfect sense! Not to the folks at Maruti it would seem!
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20th August 2010, 09:25	#37
ruchirtnt Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 1,065 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	i think they have started of with a CNG option in VXI just for the test purpose and if it will be acceptable to the people, then they might launch the same for higher variants as well, not a bad strategy.
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28th August 2010, 15:38	#39
sidindica Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 4,890 Thanked: 8,101 Times	CNG Eeco pics Neatly tucked in CNG selector switch. This is the 5 seater AC model. CNG also available in 5 seater non AC models. Engine viewed from under the driver's seat. No mishmash or any visible CNG wiring harness. Bay looks neat. Whats that blue polythene for ? engine as viewed from under co driver's seat. 1.2 4 cylinder G series BS 4 motor. basic no frills dashboard. 10 KG cylinder looks pretty small in such a big car. Caged for safety reasons from the factory. Its a factory fitted CNG fit, not an aftermarket or dealer kit. "green" decal to distinguish the CNG eeco from its petrol counterpart. rear end. I have sent a request for a short first drive to the dealer. Hope I get to drive one soon. CNG eeco does not have any waiting as of now. Last edited by sidindica : 28th August 2010 at 15:43.
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28th August 2010, 23:03	#44
supremeBaleno Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chennai / Kochi Posts: 5,546 Thanked: 2,697 Times View My Garage	Yawn!!! Those blue-eyed guys at MSIL should be knowing that nothing sells in India like diesel. Who wants CNG, especially in South India where the only gas that sells is LPG ? Forget the 90bhp diesel. All they need to do is plonk the 1.3l DDiS in the SX4 and they can see a waiting period. That's how much we love diesels. Atleast down south.
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