Micra diesel is here NOW !

anekho · 9th November 2010, 02:04

Pretty large displacement, for such a small car. And the torque figures aren't to impressive either. Is this one NA?

GTO · 9th November 2010, 08:54

^^ It's a turbo alright, albeit a mild one. Where the Logan diesel engine scores is excellent driveability (near zero lag) and fuel efficiency.

Bottom Torque · 9th November 2010, 09:05

In Chennai the XV costs Rs. 6.45 lakhs on road and XV Premium costs Rs.6.90 lakhs! I wonder how Nissan is going to sell the diesel Micra with such a premium price tag. What do you think friend?

Source: Nissan Micra diesel price Rs. 6.45 to Rs. 6.9 lakh, Nissan Micra diesel bookings open and technical specifications | DWS Auto India

rajivn · 9th November 2010, 10:56

Does the XV model come with Airbags and ABS ? If yes, then its pretty decent deal at 6.45L. A good but puny looking diesel car for 7L (XV prem) - will it work ? I dont think so.

OT - What happened to Beat Diesel ?

anekho · 9th November 2010, 12:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTO

^^ It's a turbo alright, albeit a mild one. Where the Logan diesel engine scores is excellent driveability (near zero lag) and fuel efficiency.

Thanks for the reply GTO! Good to know it's turbocharged.

OT: Just out of curiosity, is there any benefit at all in using a NA diesel engine?

Would the torque delivery be more linear? I can imagine it would have really slow throttle response!

CoolFire · 9th November 2010, 13:37

Obviously, if they want to build better volumes, they need XE diesel. It is quite probable they will bring it out later.

The currently announced variants wont find too many takers, especially in the VFM diesel crowd. Think the total volume including all variants would be less than 2k per month.

harimakesh · 9th November 2010, 15:14

If Nissan had tweaked the 1461cc engine vilume to be 1400cc the reduced tax and better price advantage would have been better for customers. 61cc engine size reduction amounts to just 4% but excise benefit would be significantly higher.

adimicra · 9th November 2010, 16:19

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Originally Posted by harimakesh

If Nissan had tweaked the 1461cc engine vilume to be 1400cc the reduced tax and better price advantage would have been better for customers. 61cc engine size reduction amounts to just 4% but excise benefit would be significantly higher.

You are wrong. For diesel cars, the limit is 1500 cc. Any car with a diesel engine less than 1500 cc is eligible for excise benefit.
So, the Micra diesel is eligible for that.

Anyone got the final price and features list?

The problem with Micra is - it is not considered as a B+ premium hatchback like Polo/Punto/I20/Fabia. Rather it is compared with I10/Swift/Ritz/Figo etc.

No doubt, it is a good package overall but it is costlier than some (Figo) or similar to others (Swift) and does not offer any significant advantage over the established brands. Rather, both the petrol and the diesel engines are the least powerful compared to the other cars in the segment. So, unless it is priced lower than the Swift (which is unlikely), I do not see it selling in good numbers. Most of the people buying it might be for some feel-good features like start/stop and its cute and different looks.

(Alok) · 9th November 2010, 18:16

When NISSAN itself known as a toppers in diesel technology, why they are sourcing the engine from Renault?

sriramv.iyer · 9th November 2010, 19:34

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Originally Posted by (Alok)

When NISSAN itself known as a toppers in diesel technology, why they are sourcing the engine from Renault?

Both are part of the same company

(more or less) - It is called Renault-Nissan Alliance - Carlos Ghosn is the CEO of both the companies (rather the alliance)

Raghu Srinivasa · 10th November 2010, 08:22

Fellas,

One thing I noticed in the features list for the Micra D is that it doesn't have ABS

Waiting for the day when Manufacturers make ABS optional on all variants of their cars.

sidindica · 10th November 2010, 11:45

Shame on Nissan for not providing ABS or a passenger airbag on micra. Driver airbag is standard though. Lost opportunity. Maybe they do not intend to sell the diesel in volumes..

Klub Class · 10th November 2010, 11:49

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Originally Posted by Raghu Srinivasa

Waiting for the day when Manufacturers make ABS optional on all variants of their cars.

IMHO, even if the manufactures don't provide ABS & Airbags on all the variants, they must at least offer it as an option.

I'm pretty sad that Nissan is not providing ABS & Passenger Airbag in Nissan Micra Diesel.

EDIT: Thanks for uploading the brochure.

Amith

4x4addict · 10th November 2010, 12:37

It is amazing how, they will continue with gizmos like keyless entry/start and remove ABS. Can never understand the mindset of these manufacturers.

I feel that the consumer mass also should get more informed about safety features. Just imagine the scene in the Nissan showroom when the sales man is showing they keyless start feature and talking about 23 kmpl mileage, How many people will ask him why ABS is not offered??

CARDEEP · 10th November 2010, 13:46

It is indeed stupid on part of Nissan to miss out the ABS & Airbags on the Micra Diesel. This one is no Value for money IMO, considering the wafer thin network that they have in India.

I have no doubt that Maruti, Hyundai, Tata, Ford, etc. will continue selling their diesel cars in more numbers to the apathy of Nissan.

It seems that the Japs consider the Indian auto market a profit centre, which can add to the yearly Dividends/ Bonuses of the Owners/ Managers.

9th November 2010, 02:04	#61
anekho Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: . Posts: 1,995 Thanked: 684 Times	Pretty large displacement, for such a small car. And the torque figures aren't to impressive either. Is this one NA?
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GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,486 Thanked: 300,273 Times View My Garage	^^ It's a turbo alright, albeit a mild one. Where the Logan diesel engine scores is excellent driveability (near zero lag) and fuel efficiency.
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9th November 2010, 09:05	#63
Bottom Torque BHPian Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Chennai Posts: 86 Thanked: 55 Times	In Chennai the XV costs Rs. 6.45 lakhs on road and XV Premium costs Rs.6.90 lakhs! I wonder how Nissan is going to sell the diesel Micra with such a premium price tag. What do you think friend? Source: Nissan Micra diesel price Rs. 6.45 to Rs. 6.9 lakh, Nissan Micra diesel bookings open and technical specifications \| DWS Auto India
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9th November 2010, 10:56	#64
rajivn BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 332 Thanked: 33 Times	Does the XV model come with Airbags and ABS ? If yes, then its pretty decent deal at 6.45L. A good but puny looking diesel car for 7L (XV prem) - will it work ? I dont think so. OT - What happened to Beat Diesel ?
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CoolFire BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tsr, Kerala Posts: 386 Thanked: 575 Times	Obviously, if they want to build better volumes, they need XE diesel. It is quite probable they will bring it out later. The currently announced variants wont find too many takers, especially in the VFM diesel crowd. Think the total volume including all variants would be less than 2k per month.
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harimakesh BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chennai/Kuwait Posts: 502 Thanked: 354 Times	If Nissan had tweaked the 1461cc engine vilume to be 1400cc the reduced tax and better price advantage would have been better for customers. 61cc engine size reduction amounts to just 4% but excise benefit would be significantly higher.
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(Alok) BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: RJ 14 Posts: 595 Thanked: 138 Times	When NISSAN itself known as a toppers in diesel technology, why they are sourcing the engine from Renault?
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Raghu Srinivasa Newbie Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 23 Thanked: 2 Times	No ABS in the Diesel Micra Fellas, One thing I noticed in the features list for the Micra D is that it doesn't have ABS Waiting for the day when Manufacturers make ABS optional on all variants of their cars.
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sidindica Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 4,890 Thanked: 8,101 Times	Shame on Nissan for not providing ABS or a passenger airbag on micra. Driver airbag is standard though. Lost opportunity. Maybe they do not intend to sell the diesel in volumes.. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by sidindica : 10th November 2010 at 11:52.
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4x4addict Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 4,483 Thanked: 4,529 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (5)	It is amazing how, they will continue with gizmos like keyless entry/start and remove ABS. Can never understand the mindset of these manufacturers. I feel that the consumer mass also should get more informed about safety features. Just imagine the scene in the Nissan showroom when the sales man is showing they keyless start feature and talking about 23 kmpl mileage, How many people will ask him why ABS is not offered?? Last edited by 4x4addict : 10th November 2010 at 12:38.
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10th November 2010, 13:46	#75
CARDEEP Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: NCR Posts: 3,247 Thanked: 2,520 Times	It is indeed stupid on part of Nissan to miss out the ABS & Airbags on the Micra Diesel. This one is no Value for money IMO, considering the wafer thin network that they have in India. I have no doubt that Maruti, Hyundai, Tata, Ford, etc. will continue selling their diesel cars in more numbers to the apathy of Nissan. It seems that the Japs consider the Indian auto market a profit centre, which can add to the yearly Dividends/ Bonuses of the Owners/ Managers.
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