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Old 18th February 2011, 18:17   #1
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Friends and fellow Bhpians ,today when I was driving back from college I noticed two brand new polos having the same temporary registration numbers,is this possible?
One was white while the other one was of grey colour.
Can this be some bid to avoid some costs or tax or anything else or is it legal which I don't think it is.
I am attaching pictures of both the cars and eagerly wait a reply from fellow Bhpians.
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Yes it is very much possible. I too saw a punto bought from the same dealer as I did and it had same GJW 01 XX XXXX registration number plate. GJW is. Temp reg plate for Ahmedabad RTO.
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Can this be some bid to avoid some costs or tax or anything else or is it legal which I don't think it is.
This is the second instance here where two skodas had the same Temp Registration number. This definitely looks like an act to save cost and assuming the owner will never realise that the number is already supplied to another customer.

The dealers should be taken to the court and punished.
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The numbers in the picture is NOT a temporary registration. Its a Trade Certificate number. This certificate is used by the dealer to transport the cars from their warehouse to the dealership, or dealership to the RTO (for temp/permanent registration).

Often Dealers use the "TC" numbers on their Test Drive vehicles - which is illegal. TC is strictly for moving the vehicle around, and not to carry passengers or for test drives.

AND, a Dealer usually has only one TC number. He'd move all his cars using that number. I am not sure what would be the legal part if such a car is involved in an accident.

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The numbers in the picture is NOT a temporary registration. Its a Trade Certificate number. This certificate is used by the dealer to transport the cars from their warehouse to the dealership, or dealership to the RTO (for temp/permanent registration).

Often Dealers use the "TC" numbers on their Test Drive vehicles - which is illegal. TC is strictly for moving the vehicle around, and not to carry passengers or for test drives.

AND, a Dealer usually has only one TC number. He'd move all his cars using that number. I am not sure what would be the legal part if such a car is involved in an accident.
Thank you and sorry for not knowing this,I thought this to be fishy so put it up,thank you
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I am not sure . but i remember once a dealer told me that the dealer will be having a temp registration number which can be used on their vehicles which they bring from the yard to the showroom. So they might use this on more than one if they are to be transported to the showroom from elsewhere nearby.
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If I am not mistaken, this is a "Trade Certificate" number and not a temporary registration number assigned by the RTO. But I am not sure whether two cars can have the same TC Number. You cannot drive in town using a TC Number. It's jurisdiction is only for a car's journey from Factory -> Dealer Yard -> Showroom -> RTO.

EDIT: binaiks has already pointed this out.
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"White on red" plates are colloquially referred to as "garage plates", and are not allotted on an individual car basis, but to a car dealer, to use when road-testing/transporting unregistered cars, before registration. The dealer usually has a few of these registrations allotted to his name, and although he is supposed to use these plates on only one car at one time, this and other instances show that he does make multiple copies of the same plate and uses them on different cars - which is illegal.
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All these years I was thinking it was impossible to have the numbers genuinely allotted to 2 different vehicles! But this seems ridiculously possible!!

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/64432329.cms

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"The state transport commissioner and Chennai (Central) Regional Transport Officer were penalised for allotting the same registration number to two different cars.
S A Napina, a resident of Chetpet, was preparing all the necessary documents to cancel the hypothecation endorsement in the registration certificate of her 10-year-old Maruti 800.
Since she availed the vehicle through a loan from her employer, the carís original registration certificate (RC) book had the hypothecation endorsement stamped on it.
After clearing the dues towards the vehicle loan, she submitted the original RC book and other relevant documents at Chennai (Central) RTO for cancelling the hypothecation endorsement.
This is when she faced an unprecedented situation. Her carís registration number (TN 01 J 4567) was found allotted to another car by mistake at the RTO.
Instead of cancelling the endorsement in the RC book, the RTO tried to cover the goof-up by issuing a fresh RC book with a new registration number TN 01 AE 2929.

The new RC book again carried a hypothecation endorsement stamp which would get cancelled at a different date. It nearly took four years for Napina to get this issue rectified and sell her vehicle to another person.
In response, RTO officials admitted that they inadvertently allotted the same registration number to another car in Gopalapuram and that they came to know about the mistake only when Napina approached them to cancel the hypothecation endorsement."
The originally allotted number (TN 01 J 4567) must be issued in mid / late 90's since it is in the beginning of the series that we have now. The 2nd time allotted number (TN 01 AE 2929) could be the correct number considering the mentioned age of the vehicle in the article, since I had a vehicle with 'TN 01 AC' series registered in Oct' 2006.
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I vaguely remember seeing a Crysta being delivered with the same temporary plates as mine while I was getting mine serviced. I was going to inquire about the same but forgot to as I was busy getting my issue sorted. I felt that it was deliberate since my car was delivered a week ago.

EDIT: I revived some files and now I get to know I was driving around with the trade ceritficate instead of the TR. Here are some images:
2 cars with the same temporary numbers! Is this possible ?-20180603_205141.jpg
We taking the delivery of the car, a part of the number is hidden by my leg but that contains the state code only.
Number mentioned- UP32TC0664A
Now, the RTO provided document:
2 cars with the same temporary numbers! Is this possible ?-20180603_205020.jpg
The correct number in the document, is mentioned at the top(UP/32/TMP/2017/12282) This shows how lazy a dealer could be, if the customer doesn't notice.

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Well even I have witnessed my friends Activa 5g and a creta had the same temporary number, he was the one to notice but he didn't care because we were going to the dealership to get the permanent number plates fitted.

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