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Originally Posted by khan_sultan While people were bust setting fastest lap time records, I was busy testing out the dynolicious. Unfortunately, I can't make head or tail out of this. Can someone help me analyze and decode these graphs for me?
What do these mean? |
Awrite. Just something that I thought about the graphs. Gurus kindly don't take off on me if im wrong. Just a thought.
Graph one.
The acceleration curve (red) states that the car is doing around 95 at the ten second mark and 125 odd around the 19 second mark. The doubt that arises is whether the car was held down (read as not accelerated upon / throttle held at a fixed position / feathered in intervals) after peaking out in 1st gear and up shifting into 2nd since the acceleration curve remains more or less constant till about the 15 second mark which is also complimented by the dropping HP curve which stays down till about the same time (15 second mark) after which there is a surge in both the acceleration curve as well as the HP curve. As far as the G force curve (blue) is concerned, the central point from where it starts being the 0 g point, the acceleration creates positive G all the way up till the same 10 second mark after which the g curve reads almost negligible positive g as the car was not accelerated upon after that till about the same 15 second mark where the HP curve and the acceleration curve surge upwards. There is no negative G present since there was no braking involved.
My only doubt is - the graph shows the car producing 125 Hp at the peak of its power band in 1st gear at the same point where the car has almost touched 80 kmph and 150 HP at the peak of the powerband in 2nd gear . On a stock Palio 1.6?
Summary - Car accelerates to 80 in 1st gear while the engine is pushing out 125 Hp and after shifting to second the throttle is held constant / not acted upon / feathered till about the 15 second mark which results in the constant speed with no surge as well as the HP curve dropping. There is surge in both the curves as the car reaches the 120 mark in 2nd gear. Guess this is what the graph reads, but impossible on a stock car.
Graph 2
The acceleration curve (yellow) indicates the positive Gs experienced upon acceleration and the braking curve (red) indicates the negative Gs experienced upon deceleration. The chart does not begin with the car at rest, or rather the reading starts at a point where the car is braking. At a point where the car is stationary, both the curves would overlap each other at the 0 line. Every time the car accelerates ie. the yellow curve moves up, there is a dip in the red curve due to the negative impact on the negative Gs. Similarly every time when the car undergoes braking, there is a surge in the negative Gs with a complimented negative effect on the positive Gs which results in the red curve dropping and the yellow curve ascending. This explains why everytime the yellow curve moves up, the red curve moves down and when the yellow curve moves down on deceleration, the red curve moves up. This is a pattern which is pretty constant through the whole graph. My doubt again is if the calibration is right as the position of the red curve seems to have shifted down though the pattern seems to be right.
The graph indicates, a max of .5 Gs (positive) at any point of time and max negative Gs of around 1 G through the chart. The negative gs seem to be quite high. stock road cars are not designed to brake with decelerating force of 1g (ie 35kmph per second) A car accelerating at an average of 17.5 kmph a second would be doing around .5 g and I bet that 1.6 engine in the peak of its powerband would be doing more than that. Which is why i believe that both yellow as well as the red curve are placed a few notches too low. If the yellow curve shifts upwards, it would mean that while accelerating the car would be doing more than .5 g which i think would be right. The pattern seems to be fine. I feel both the curves should be actually be a little higher than what the graph states.
@ khan ji's second post. The second graph (safari) seems more sane than the one for the palio. If you notice the peak negative Gs are less far lesser than one and the positive Gs are above .5gs. If a safari can accelerate at more than .5 gs its only common sense to come to a conclusion what a 1.6 palio with its superior Power to weight ratio would be experiencing. Definitely more than .5 Gs
The peak yellow points are the higher end of positive Gs under acceleration. So every time the yellow line reaches its peak and folds down, its the car decelerating. There is no way to do any corner identification since you could just be decelerating down the straight for no reason and that too would show a drop of the yellow curve.
Again, this is just something that I thought of after breaking my head over the graph for quite some time. So please do not take off on me. I am as keen as anyone to actually know what it truly means.