Caddy's CTS Super V - 505hp to tackle the likes of M5

heelntoe · 5th April 2006, 20:08

nope i havent seen one(yet) but i heard from my uncles in NJ that it is one hell of a car in terms of eveything.

tsxei · 5th April 2006, 20:28

It looks good. I like the fender flares. I guess that is the only exterior modification they have done compared to the CTS-V. But like many said, they need to be blended into the body a bit. Cadillac has been trying to get rid of the "old man's car" image for a long time now. I hope the super V helps with that.

Mpower · 5th April 2006, 22:36

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Originally Posted by sajo

Does 7.0L really do 22mpg? I have read somewhere that it avoids the gas guzzler tax. How does it do it inspite of being a big pushrod V8?? Does it also use that multidisplacement thing used in big Chrysler V8s?

Vettes have traditionally had a feature that forces you to shift from 1st to 4th under normal driving and this helps FE. Not sure if the c6 still has this feature.

karthik247 · 5th April 2006, 22:39

Cadillac Sixteen or sumtin like that could run with fewer cylinders than its got to improve FE right. And when u open the throttle, all the cylinders will work to produce power..

BUSA · 5th April 2006, 23:15

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Originally Posted by karthik247

Cadillac Sixteen or sumtin like that could run with fewer cylinders than its got to improve FE right. And when u open the throttle, all the cylinders will work to produce power..

Thats the same tech in the Accord V6. Its known as Variable Cylinder Management. Read here.

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The 3000 CC i-VTEC motor in the new Accord runs on all six cylinders while accelerating hard, climbing or while carrying a full load and employs only three cylinders during cruising and at low engine loads. The new engine thus combines the effortless performance of a three litre engine while offering superior fuel economy of 11.6 kpl that the four cylinder Accord manages. How is this possible? The Variable Cylinder Management (VCM) system analyses throttle opening, vehicle speed, engine speed and gearing to determine that the car is cruising, and then idles the intake and exhaust valves of the three cylinders in the rear bank. With zero valve lift, the cylinders are sealed and no fuel is injected, thereby reducing pumping losses by as much as 65 per cent.When operating in three cylinder mode, engine vibration is reduced by extrapolating vibration from the change in crankshaft rotation speed and sending the information to the ‘active control’ engine mount, which compresses/extends an actuator in same-phase, same-period motion to dampen the engine mount. Similarly, a speaker creates an opposite phase sound or ‘active noise control’, to provide a cancelling effect, for a quieter interior which leaves the driver unaware of changes in cylinder activation.

tsxei · 6th April 2006, 00:58

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Originally Posted by karthik247

Cadillac Sixteen or sumtin like that could run with fewer cylinders than its got to improve FE right. And when u open the throttle, all the cylinders will work to produce power..

It could be in the Sixteen. I have read somewhere that GM was the first to experiment and successfully implement engine cylinder management system to improve FE in production cars. I think GM calls it Active Fuel Management. The 2006 Impala has active fuel management. A lot of GMC SUV's also have it.

islero · 6th April 2006, 08:53

It first debuted in the Cadillac 2-4-6-8 (or something of the sort) in the 1970's. Was extremely unpopular then.

ghostrider4385 · 6th April 2006, 15:05

I saw the super'duper' V's ad last night on some saudi channel called MBC2 or something. The ad is well made and the car looks really hot in it! And the flares are less flared *It seems like that* than what they look like in the spy pics. Looked extremely 'vectra-ish' in some angles.

O.T. Just incase you guys are wondering why in god's name would I be watching a saudi channel, well, they show really good english movies on em, with arabic subtitles. And I was watchin '3000 miles to Graceland' when they aired the ad.

Godspeed.

Alok.

1Day · 7th April 2006, 02:51

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Originally Posted by ghostrider4385

I saw the super'duper' V's ad last night on some saudi channel called MBC2 or something. The ad is well made and the car looks really hot in it! And the flares are less flared *It seems like that* than what they look like in the spy pics. Looked extremely 'vectra-ish' in some angles.

O.T. Just incase you guys are wondering why in god's name would I be watching a saudi channel, well, they show really good english movies on em, with arabic subtitles. And I was watchin '3000 miles to Graceland' when they aired the ad.

Godspeed.

Alok.

Couldnt be...they havent even said that they are doing this....so how could they even advertise?? Must be the regular V not the super V with the 505hp

ghostrider4385 · 7th April 2006, 12:37

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Originally Posted by 1Day

Couldnt be...they havent even said that they are doing this....so how could they even advertise?? Must be the regular V not the super V with the 505hp

Lol.... I feel extremely dumb right now! I saw the ad again. It was the regular one. I think that's why I felt the flares looked tamer!

Godspeed.

Alok.

turbo_v12 · 8th April 2006, 14:07

The Caddy wont be able to tackle the likes of the M5...it just may do so in straight line speed...but nowehere else.

heelntoe · 8th April 2006, 19:03

http://www.dpccars.com/car-movies/04...illacCTS-V.htm
check that out. and that is only the normal v. i wonder if the super v will be better in handling or more nose heavy

1Day · 8th April 2006, 23:04

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Originally Posted by turbo_v12

The Caddy wont be able to tackle the likes of the M5...it just may do so in straight line speed...but nowehere else.

and you know so with experience??

i am not saying it would or not...but have you seen what they are going to make out of it..

people said corvette is only a straight line performer, well the C6 whops the 911S around a track and in straight line, the Z06 well does more than that, it RAPEs all the exotics out there around the track..even the new 911 Turbo is far behind...the F430 is not even seen in the rear view and murcielago run a little behind it..

anyhow my point is...cady is trying to revive their image and in doing so, they might borrow some of the handling from the vette team..if they do this might turn out to be more than just a straight line performer..

i am not saying it will but, we just dont know..

1Day · 8th April 2006, 23:28

Nice video there man...it just showed how good the caddy is..but you can clearly see how dumb and biased JC is...

he left the door open with the key inside and he expects the car not to remind you...anyhow...he is calling caddy's cheap from the inside...well i can say they are poorly designed interiors...but cheap from no angle..we are talking about a caddy which mostly have superior quality to the germans...anyhow..it just showed its a sports cars with great capabilities and considering that the next corvette is going to be a RHD and LHD car, so will the next gen of CTS, CTS V and CTS Super V...so then we will see what happens...it would be murder for Ms and AMGs...

and for the price tag which is soo cheap..50k loaded in US...the super V would be maybe 65k, so you are looking at 30k cheaper than the M with great handling and awesome power..and i personally find the M retarted looking...i dont know y it just isnt for me and the CLS 55 AMG which looks like a dream doesnt handle as good as the american car here..so what do you get out of this??

islero · 9th April 2006, 10:06

Generally the handling reports about the CTS I have read in British magazines say the handling is good, not quite up there with the BMW's, but close.

So I think they should have the handling thing fully sorted with the super-V. It sounds like its going to be a bit of a bargain compared to the M5.

5th April 2006, 20:08	#16
heelntoe BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: navi mumbai Posts: 240 Thanked: Once	nope i havent seen one(yet) but i heard from my uncles in NJ that it is one hell of a car in terms of eveything.
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5th April 2006, 20:28	#17
tsxei BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 164 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	It looks good. I like the fender flares. I guess that is the only exterior modification they have done compared to the CTS-V. But like many said, they need to be blended into the body a bit. Cadillac has been trying to get rid of the "old man's car" image for a long time now. I hope the super V helps with that.
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5th April 2006, 22:39	#19
karthik247 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR, HYD Posts: 2,710 Thanked: 30 Times	Cadillac Sixteen or sumtin like that could run with fewer cylinders than its got to improve FE right. And when u open the throttle, all the cylinders will work to produce power..
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6th April 2006, 08:53	#22
islero Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,574 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	It first debuted in the Cadillac 2-4-6-8 (or something of the sort) in the 1970's. Was extremely unpopular then.
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6th April 2006, 15:05	#23
ghostrider4385 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 389 Thanked: 12 Times	I saw the super'duper' V's ad last night on some saudi channel called MBC2 or something. The ad is well made and the car looks really hot in it! And the flares are less flared It seems like that than what they look like in the spy pics. Looked extremely 'vectra-ish' in some angles. O.T. Just incase you guys are wondering why in god's name would I be watching a saudi channel, well, they show really good english movies on em, with arabic subtitles. And I was watchin '3000 miles to Graceland' when they aired the ad. Godspeed. Alok.
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8th April 2006, 14:07	#26
turbo_v12 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Thane Posts: 457 Thanked: Once View My Garage	The Caddy wont be able to tackle the likes of the M5...it just may do so in straight line speed...but nowehere else.
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8th April 2006, 19:03	#27
heelntoe BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: navi mumbai Posts: 240 Thanked: Once	http://www.dpccars.com/car-movies/04...illacCTS-V.htm check that out. and that is only the normal v. i wonder if the super v will be better in handling or more nose heavy
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8th April 2006, 23:28	#29
1Day Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago/Delhi Posts: 1,360 Thanked: 4 Times View My Garage	Nice video there man...it just showed how good the caddy is..but you can clearly see how dumb and biased JC is... he left the door open with the key inside and he expects the car not to remind you...anyhow...he is calling caddy's cheap from the inside...well i can say they are poorly designed interiors...but cheap from no angle..we are talking about a caddy which mostly have superior quality to the germans...anyhow..it just showed its a sports cars with great capabilities and considering that the next corvette is going to be a RHD and LHD car, so will the next gen of CTS, CTS V and CTS Super V...so then we will see what happens...it would be murder for Ms and AMGs... and for the price tag which is soo cheap..50k loaded in US...the super V would be maybe 65k, so you are looking at 30k cheaper than the M with great handling and awesome power..and i personally find the M retarted looking...i dont know y it just isnt for me and the CLS 55 AMG which looks like a dream doesnt handle as good as the american car here..so what do you get out of this??
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9th April 2006, 10:06	#30
islero Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,574 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	Generally the handling reports about the CTS I have read in British magazines say the handling is good, not quite up there with the BMW's, but close. So I think they should have the handling thing fully sorted with the super-V. It sounds like its going to be a bit of a bargain compared to the M5.
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