geneva motor show 2005 show-stopper!

cream · 17th March 2005, 01:48

hey all you tech guys...figure this one out.

i am seeing this for the first time. i guess - it's all about better grip and handling

though can someone throw some light on this baby???

heres the thread

http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/geneva-...c6w-035216.php

islero · 17th March 2005, 16:22

OH YUCK THAT IS ONE GHASTLY LOOKING THING

More info anyone( sorry dont know anything about this one)

aveek · 18th March 2005, 10:22

What the hell is that??!!! Look like a cross between a VERY UGLY praying mantis and a truck with the turning wheels in the wrong place!!! Absolutely gross.

athreyap · 18th March 2005, 11:29

Wow,

I remeber reading about this car some three years ago and wondering if it would ever make it to an auto show. It was a concept in 2001 I believe. I know it's a little hard to look at, but it has it's reasons. Imagine having 4 front wheels to give you traction when you accelerating hard. The 4 front wheels were also designed to give better grip and safety.

Don't think it will ever make it to production, but it is a fast car..

vance0712 · 18th March 2005, 20:02

that is very freaking ugly
a bul;lock cart looks more dignified to that

pingme · 18th March 2005, 20:05

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Originally Posted by vance0712

that is very freaking ugly
a bul;lock cart looks more dignified to that

What ugly...I liked it a lot...its looking so cute....

vance0712 · 18th March 2005, 23:19

good

thats what i thought

cheers.....

Gordon · 18th March 2005, 23:25

how would this help?!?
The only way I could see it help in this car is that there is more "grip" on the front end!!

They compared it with the Tyrrell P34. But thats not the answer, coz the Tyrrell team did this for a major reason. The reason being that in open-wheel racing there is tooo much air resistance in the front end due to the tyres. So what Tyrrell did was made the wheels/tyres smaller so that they could be inside the front wing. and not cause much trouble. Because the contact patch of the tyres reduced, they added two more tyres just behind them that could also be steered.

cream · 20th March 2005, 22:03

btw,

according to the covini website. they have got sponsorship from some co. in the geneva motorshow to take this car to production!

now we'll see really what people around the world think about it's ugliness

Samurai · 15th June 2005, 18:39

I can't figure out how to turn this car, you can't turn both the front wheels. Unless the steering is done from the rear wheel...

Shan2nu · 15th June 2005, 18:48

This is the Covini C6W and..............you can turn all 4 wheels.

Here's how it's done.

Technical Specifications :

ENGINE: rear, longitudinal, 8 cylinder in V formation, 4 valves per cylinder, naturally aspirated, petrol direct injection Bosch-motronic.
CAPACITY: 4200 cc
MAX POWER: 380 PS (260KW) at 6400 rpm
MAX TORQUE: about 450 Nm (45.9 Kgm) at 2700 rpm
TRANSMISSION: rear wheel drive transaxle
GEARBOX: mechanical 6-speed + reverse. Manual and electro-hydraulic steeringwheel mounted
servo
CHASSIS: steel tubular with carbon fibre reinforcements and structural parts
SUSPENSION: independent front and rear wishbones
WHEELS AND TYRES: front 16in wheels with 215/45-16 tyres; rear 20in with 345/25-20 tyres
BRAKES: front and rear vented Brembo discs. Bosch servo and electronic brake distribution
BODYWORK: glass fibre and carbon fibre
DIMENSIONS:length 4180mm; width 1990mm; height 1080mm; wheelbase2230mm/2750mm (to foremost/middle front transaxle); front track 1540mm; rear track
1620mm ; dry weight 1150Kg
TOP SPEED: 300Kph (185mph)

Shan2nu

RX135 · 15th June 2005, 18:50

That looks rather odd. May be it is steered by rear wheels as you said.

But, I think it should be possible to steer by turning both set of front wheels as well, albeit with different angles.

Technocrat · 15th June 2005, 19:07

Is the rear wheel bigger than the front ones ??

Btw I have more pics of the car(they are from the same show as shown in 1st pic).

Shan2nu · 15th June 2005, 19:10

Quote:

Is the rear wheel bigger than the front ones ??

Yup, front wheels are 16" and the rear ones are 20".

Shan2nu

turbo_lover · 15th June 2005, 19:35

the addition 2 wheel and its steering help the car perform in anyway ?

17th March 2005, 01:48	#1
cream BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 159 Thanked: 3 Times	geneva motor show 2005 show-stopper! hey all you tech guys...figure this one out. i am seeing this for the first time. i guess - it's all about better grip and handling though can someone throw some light on this baby??? heres the thread http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/geneva-...c6w-035216.php
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17th March 2005, 16:22	#2
islero Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,574 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	OH YUCK THAT IS ONE GHASTLY LOOKING THING More info anyone( sorry dont know anything about this one)
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18th March 2005, 10:22	#3
aveek BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 294 Thanked: 2 Times	What the hell is that??!!! Look like a cross between a VERY UGLY praying mantis and a truck with the turning wheels in the wrong place!!! Absolutely gross.
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18th March 2005, 11:29	#4
athreyap Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Somewhere Posts: 10 Thanked: 0 Times	PMI-Covini C6W Wow, I remeber reading about this car some three years ago and wondering if it would ever make it to an auto show. It was a concept in 2001 I believe. I know it's a little hard to look at, but it has it's reasons. Imagine having 4 front wheels to give you traction when you accelerating hard. The 4 front wheels were also designed to give better grip and safety. Don't think it will ever make it to production, but it is a fast car..
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18th March 2005, 20:02	#5
vance0712 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 142 Thanked: Once	Yuck that is very freaking ugly a bul;lock cart looks more dignified to that
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18th March 2005, 23:19	#7
vance0712 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 142 Thanked: Once	ok good thats what i thought cheers.....
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18th March 2005, 23:25	#8
Gordon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,546 Thanked: 483 Times View My Garage	how would this help?!? The only way I could see it help in this car is that there is more "grip" on the front end!! They compared it with the Tyrrell P34. But thats not the answer, coz the Tyrrell team did this for a major reason. The reason being that in open-wheel racing there is tooo much air resistance in the front end due to the tyres. So what Tyrrell did was made the wheels/tyres smaller so that they could be inside the front wing. and not cause much trouble. Because the contact patch of the tyres reduced, they added two more tyres just behind them that could also be steered.
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20th March 2005, 22:03	#9
cream BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 159 Thanked: 3 Times	btw, according to the covini website. they have got sponsorship from some co. in the geneva motorshow to take this car to production! now we'll see really what people around the world think about it's ugliness
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15th June 2005, 18:39	#10
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 25,828 Thanked: 45,521 Times View My Garage	How do you turn this car? I can't figure out how to turn this car, you can't turn both the front wheels. Unless the steering is done from the rear wheel...
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15th June 2005, 18:48	#11
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	This is the Covini C6W and..............you can turn all 4 wheels. Here's how it's done. Technical Specifications : ENGINE: rear, longitudinal, 8 cylinder in V formation, 4 valves per cylinder, naturally aspirated, petrol direct injection Bosch-motronic. CAPACITY: 4200 cc MAX POWER: 380 PS (260KW) at 6400 rpm MAX TORQUE: about 450 Nm (45.9 Kgm) at 2700 rpm TRANSMISSION: rear wheel drive transaxle GEARBOX: mechanical 6-speed + reverse. Manual and electro-hydraulic steeringwheel mounted servo CHASSIS: steel tubular with carbon fibre reinforcements and structural parts SUSPENSION: independent front and rear wishbones WHEELS AND TYRES: front 16in wheels with 215/45-16 tyres; rear 20in with 345/25-20 tyres BRAKES: front and rear vented Brembo discs. Bosch servo and electronic brake distribution BODYWORK: glass fibre and carbon fibre DIMENSIONS:length 4180mm; width 1990mm; height 1080mm; wheelbase2230mm/2750mm (to foremost/middle front transaxle); front track 1540mm; rear track 1620mm ; dry weight 1150Kg TOP SPEED: 300Kph (185mph) Shan2nu Last edited by Shan2nu : 15th June 2005 at 19:05.
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15th June 2005, 18:50	#12
RX135 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: pune Posts: 2,106 Thanked: 75 Times	That looks rather odd. May be it is steered by rear wheels as you said. But, I think it should be possible to steer by turning both set of front wheels as well, albeit with different angles.
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15th June 2005, 19:07	#13
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,700 Times	Is the rear wheel bigger than the front ones ?? Btw I have more pics of the car(they are from the same show as shown in 1st pic).
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15th June 2005, 19:35	#15
turbo_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,377 Thanked: 9 Times	the addition 2 wheel and its steering help the car perform in anyway ?
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