[rubin2006]

Originally Posted by Vishesh

the NNHC as pictured(or portrayed ??) in our auto-mags is surely a stunner from every angle..its now got the much appreciated sporty look of the elder civic. Plus, a new set of great honda engines, this time no silly 77bhp. :-P
This is good as many people (including me) turned away from honda showrooms to Maruti ones, and chose the SX4, which scored better than the NHC in these two deptts.

Honda is known to come back if beaten once and destroy the competition as in case of sonata when its First gen Accord was beaten , I remember Mr BVR Subu then President of Hyundai motors said that i promised to outsell Honda Accord 1:2 but infact we have sold 3 to 4 sonata's For Evey Accord Sold ,and what happened After that Honda came with the 2003 Accord And virtually Finished The sonata Brand name from India , I guess accord sold 10 cars for every sonata sold ,Elantra was never a competition to civic in India ,And this time its was a Big car from a small car maker which gave some tough times to Honda city for being a sheer value and that is SX4
which Also snatched the no 1 title from honda city for many months

So i guess Honda will come back with everything in there power to Be clear leader in the segment They would at least want to out sell SX4 plus all other petrol models combined in this segment Now we have to wait and see if they can do it ,Looks little tough to me but not impossible for Honda

[StarScream]

Originally Posted by rubin2006

Honda is known to come back if beaten once and destroy the competition as in case of sonata when its First gen Accord was beaten , I remember Mr BVR Subu then President of Hyundai motors said that i promised to outsell Honda Accord 1:2 but infact we have sold 3 to 4 sonata's For Evey Accord Sold ,and what happened After that Honda came with the 2003 Accord And virtually Finished The sonata Brand name from India , I guess accord sold 10 cars for every sonata sold ,Elantra was never a competition to civic in India ,And this time its was a Big car from a small car maker which gave some tough times to Honda city for being a sheer value and that is SX4
which Also snatched the no 1 title from honda city for many months

So i guess Honda will come back with everything in there power to Be clear leader in the segment They would at least want to out sell SX4 plus all other petrol models combined in this segment Now we have to wait and see if they can do it ,Looks little tough to me but not impossible for Honda

Factually correct but I seriously doubt Honda does anything with the tiny Indian market in mind. Whatever happens here is a fall out of their global operations.

[METISWHG]

Originally Posted by rubin2006

Honda is known to come back if beaten once and destroy the competition as in case of sonata when its First gen ....

....So i guess Honda will come back with everything in there power to Be clear leader in the segment They would at least want to out sell SX4 plus all other petrol models combined in this segment Now we have to wait and see if they can do it ,Looks little tough to me but not impossible for Honda

I do think that in many countries Honda lags Toyota..so I am not sure how they get back on Toyota. fortuner outsells CRV in many markets, so is the case with Camry & accord in many markets...Toyota is actually a gold standard in many markets.
As far as the Hyundai example is concerend Japenes and S. Koreans always try to their best to outdo each other, though I am really impressed by a korean brand called Ssangyong Motors

[agentsmith2]

Originally Posted by METISWHG

I do think that in many countries Honda lags Toyota..so I am not sure how they get back on Toyota. fortuner outsells CRV in many markets, so is the case with Camry & accord in many markets...Toyota is actually a gold standard in many markets.
As far as the Hyundai example is concerend Japenes and S. Koreans always try to their best to outdo each other, though I am really impressed by a korean brand called Ssangyong Motors

Honda is a minnow when compared to Toyota which is the #1 most profitable auto maker and consistently ranks as one of the best companies. Market Cap aside, Toyota is considered better in quality than honda.

As far as Honda City reworks are concerned, Toyota has a competing model [Altis] which beats City in several markets.

And as you rightly said - all Japs hate Korean irrespective.

btw Ssyanyong was earlier a subsidiary of Daewoo - its now owned by a Chinese auto company SAIC [Shanghai Automobiles]

[Technocrat]

Note from Mod: Please keep this thread only for the Thailand launch, all NNHC related posts should go to the following thread:

NNHC Thread

[uday.ere]

Originally Posted by agentsmith2

As far as Honda City reworks are concerned, Toyota has a competing model [Altis] which beats City in several markets.

Toyota has launched the Corolla Altis today, priced between Rs 10.83 lakh and Rs 12.86 lakh (ex-showroom, Delhi) At these price points it is much lower than the Civic for every comparable model. If the New Honda City top end version is priced at around 10 lacs then it would compete with the Altis entry level model. Need to see Honda's pricing strategy - since this could make or mar the City's future.

[rubin2006]

Originally Posted by METISWHG

I do think that in many countries Honda lags Toyota..so I am not sure how they get back on Toyota. fortuner outsells CRV in many markets, so is the case with Camry & accord in many markets...Toyota is actually a gold standard in many markets.
As far as the Hyundai example is concerend Japenes and S. Koreans always try to their best to outdo each other, though I am really impressed by a korean brand called Ssangyong Motors

Dear METISWHG if you read my post again ,i was clearly speaking in india context where even Toyota till now is also being outsold by HONDA Cause more than half of the world is not intrested in Sx4 and Honda City , and 99 % people outside india dont even know who Mr Bvr subu was or what he said

[METISWHG]

Originally Posted by rubin2006

Dear METISWHG if you read my post again ,i was clearly speaking in india context where even Toyota till now is also being outsold by HONDA Cause more than half of the world is not intrested in Sx4 and Honda City , and 99 % people outside india dont even know who Mr Bvr subu was or what he said

Hi Rubin,
looks like u got a bit offended. no offences meant...
of course 99% of people outside India dont knwo Mr BVR Subbu.
on a lighter note.. I am sure, 99% of people within India will also not know Mr BVR Subbu.

But i would say a statement like "Honda is known to come back"... doesnt really hold very true if you are talking one market and in that two car models at max. these are my thoughts...

[CBlazer]

Originally Posted by sidindica

All new Honda City - Always Ahead

Very eagerly, I went to the website today to find that the launch is still about a day away from now. Guess we got the math a bit wrong.

[METISWHG]

the launch seems like 10th Sep
also the website says someting in Thai about 12-14th Sep launch at one of the major malls - Siam Paragon

[GTO]

Toyota has launched the Corolla Altis today, priced between Rs 10.83 lakh and Rs 12.86 lakh (ex-showroom, Delhi) At these price points it is much lower than the Civic for every comparable model. If the New Honda City top end version is priced at around 10 lacs then it would compete with the Altis entry level model.

The Corolla undercuts the Civic by about 20 grand, I wouldnt see it as a substantially lower price. On the topic of the top-end City and the base Corolla, their price was within a hair's breadth even with the previous gen Corolla. You can see that phenomena in other segments too : An interesting discussion

[METISWHG]

Originally Posted by CBlazer

Very eagerly, I went to the website today to find that the launch is still about a day away from now. Guess we got the math a bit wrong.

just checked with the showroom in Thailand. it will be on display from tomorrow afternoon.

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If Honda messes up with the price by putting G3HC for close to 9 to 9.5 lacs, it would mean a disaster. The New Altis 1.8G would seem a steal for money at 11 lacs then.
Hope Honda prices it right and don't charge the earlier hefty premium of their brand image and pathetic service.No doubt Honda cars are good, but they are never VFM.

[Fountainheader]

1st news item regarding the All New City!

2009 Honda City officially unveiled in Thailand!

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Check this Link guys
Honda Worldwide | September 10, 2008 "Honda Begins Sales of All-New CITY in Thailand"