Chinese Hatch

Steeroid · 21st April 2005, 00:14

Hello guys

My first attempt to post an image on TBHP. Hope this works - this is a new chinese hatch launched here in Dubai today: (FYI: Dhs 1 = Rs.12)

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Steeroid · 21st April 2005, 00:16

This isnt as easy as it seemed:

http://img58.echo.cx/img58/4307/image000019ey.jpg

If you cant read the small print at the bottom it says:

*5 speed Manual*4 Cylinder*Water cooled*Engine capacity: 1075ml*Wooden look dash board*Power: 48 Kw/64 hp*Central locking*Electric windows*Padded side doors

*Free Test Drive*3 Years Warranty or 60,000 kms whichever comes first*

freakr · 21st April 2005, 00:16

it looks like a mixed breed of santro..getz ....

highwayblaze · 21st April 2005, 01:07

Funny isnt it....specifying engine displacement in "milli-litres"... wonder how "Hey my car displaces 2000milli-litres... lol...

Steeroid · 21st April 2005, 02:11

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Originally Posted by highwayblaze

Funny isnt it....specifying engine displacement in "milli-litres"... wonder how "Hey my car displaces 2000milli-litres... lol...

I also liked the 'Water cooled' and 'Free Test Drive' captions !!!!

ajmat · 21st April 2005, 08:32

They have a long way to go in marketing it

Harrie · 21st April 2005, 08:52

That car looks good but diesnt look like a original design. They are coming up real good in the manufacturing sector. but sadly the chinese themselves have spoilt their name by loking to mass produce components at a cheaper price. Their name has sort of become synonymous with Cheap and Unreliable. A lot of business customers we have refuse to source from china bcas of the same reason.

GTO · 21st April 2005, 10:49

1960's = No ways will the Japanese ever make it...their cars are too cheap, unreliable and basic in engineering / design.

20 years down the line

1980's = No ways will the Koreans make it, their cars are too cheap, unreliable and basic in engineering / design.

20 years down the line

2000's = No ways will the Chinese make it. Their cars are too cheap, unreliable and basic in engineering / design.

GTO

superavi · 21st April 2005, 15:44

At about Rs. 12 per UAE Dirham, the price of 23000 Dhs comes to about Rs 2,76,000.

For a 1.1 litre, 4 seater, 64 hp <Santro, Zen, Wagon R segment car> that's not too cheap. Or am I missing something here?

What's the import duty for UAE? And what would be the costs if there were a SKU or CKU Lobo from India?

The vehicle looks neat though? Unlike a frog trying to look handsome - Santro! The triangular theme is radical, but might draw mixed reactions.

Steeroid · 21st April 2005, 16:21

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Originally Posted by superavi

At about Rs. 12 per UAE Dirham, the price of 23000 Dhs comes to about Rs 2,76,000.

For a 1.1 litre, 4 seater, 64 hp <Santro, Zen, Wagon R segment car> that's not too cheap. Or am I missing something here?

What's the import duty for UAE? And what would be the costs if there were a SKU or CKU Lobo from India?

The vehicle looks neat though? Unlike a frog trying to look handsome - Santro! The triangular theme is radical, but might draw mixed reactions.

None of the smaller cars are cheap here - it gets better as you go up the value chain and get an accord for about 7 lakhs and a camry for about 9.

Firstly, there isnt a great market for small cars so the distributors dont have the economies of scale for a small-margin-high-volume activity.

This car is probably sold for less than the equivalent of 1.5 lakhs in China, for all you know. FYI, the Kia Picanto which is a Santro Xing with a different grille sells for about 27,000 Dhs. The Getz for slightly more. So it doesnt make sense to buy a small car here.

Steeroid · 21st April 2005, 16:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTO

1960's = No ways will the Japanese ever make it...their cars are too cheap, unreliable and basic in engineering / design.

20 years down the line

1980's = No ways will the Koreans make it, their cars are too cheap, unreliable and basic in engineering / design.

20 years down the line

2000's = No ways will the Chinese make it. Their cars are too cheap, unreliable and basic in engineering / design.

GTO

Well said. Look forward to the time when they say the same about Indian cars. Wonder if there will be any 'Indian' manufacturer other than Tata, though...

At least they make their own cars.

Steeroid · 21st April 2005, 16:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harrie

That car looks good but diesnt look like a original design. They are coming up real good in the manufacturing sector. but sadly the chinese themselves have spoilt their name by loking to mass produce components at a cheaper price. Their name has sort of become synonymous with Cheap and Unreliable. A lot of business customers we have refuse to source from china bcas of the same reason.

Didnt somebody get you an iPod from KL recently? Check where its manufactured - it will either have a Made in China sticker or the components are made in China.

Check laptops, digital cameras, mobilephones or most other electronics - they are all labelled HP or Compaq or Sony Ericsson or Canon but made in China.

I guess if the car was made in China and labelled Fiat it wouldnt have been so unappealing...

21st April 2005, 00:14	#1
Steeroid Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: N.A Posts: 7,046 Thanked: 2,751 Times	Chinese Hatch Hello guys My first attempt to post an image on TBHP. Hope this works - this is a new chinese hatch launched here in Dubai today: (FYI: Dhs 1 = Rs.12) Moderator Note : Please use the Thumbnail option to post such heavy images. Last edited by v12 : 21st April 2005 at 10:57.
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21st April 2005, 00:16	#2
Steeroid Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: N.A Posts: 7,046 Thanked: 2,751 Times	This isnt as easy as it seemed: http://img58.echo.cx/img58/4307/image000019ey.jpg If you cant read the small print at the bottom it says: 5 speed Manual4 CylinderWater cooledEngine capacity: 1075mlWooden look dash boardPower: 48 Kw/64 hpCentral lockingElectric windowsPadded side doors Free Test Drive3 Years Warranty or 60,000 kms whichever comes first Last edited by Steeroid : 21st April 2005 at 00:23.
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freakr BANNED Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: bangalore/vizag Posts: 62 Thanked: 0 Times	it looks like a mixed breed of santro..getz .... Last edited by freakr : 21st April 2005 at 00:22.
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21st April 2005, 01:07	#4
highwayblaze BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chicago/Mumbai/Pune Posts: 771 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	Funny isnt it....specifying engine displacement in "milli-litres"... wonder how "Hey my car displaces 2000milli-litres... lol...
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21st April 2005, 08:32	#6
ajmat Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 14,858 Thanked: 27,925 Times View My Garage	They have a long way to go in marketing it
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21st April 2005, 08:52	#7
Harrie BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: KA 03, KL 12, TN 38 Posts: 701 Thanked: 36 Times View My Garage	That car looks good but diesnt look like a original design. They are coming up real good in the manufacturing sector. but sadly the chinese themselves have spoilt their name by loking to mass produce components at a cheaper price. Their name has sort of become synonymous with Cheap and Unreliable. A lot of business customers we have refuse to source from china bcas of the same reason.
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21st April 2005, 10:49	#8
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,492 Thanked: 300,289 Times View My Garage	1960's = No ways will the Japanese ever make it...their cars are too cheap, unreliable and basic in engineering / design. 20 years down the line 1980's = No ways will the Koreans make it, their cars are too cheap, unreliable and basic in engineering / design. 20 years down the line 2000's = No ways will the Chinese make it. Their cars are too cheap, unreliable and basic in engineering / design. GTO
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21st April 2005, 15:44	#9
superavi BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London Posts: 286 Thanked: 29 Times	Price? At about Rs. 12 per UAE Dirham, the price of 23000 Dhs comes to about Rs 2,76,000. For a 1.1 litre, 4 seater, 64 hp <Santro, Zen, Wagon R segment car> that's not too cheap. Or am I missing something here? What's the import duty for UAE? And what would be the costs if there were a SKU or CKU Lobo from India? The vehicle looks neat though? Unlike a frog trying to look handsome - Santro! The triangular theme is radical, but might draw mixed reactions.
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