[FERRO]

do we currently have any american car manufacturer in F1 ?

why dont supercars like SSC n others like Bugatti make cars for F1 to prove.

[pawan]

Originally Posted by nikhilb2008

hmm....have they even won in their own class at any time ?

yes they have a couple of podium finish in american and european le mans.

do we currently have any american car manufacturer in F1 ?

nope

[Nikhilb2008]

Originally Posted by pawan

yes they have a couple of podium finish in american and european le mans.

Is that all ? .......

[BUSA]

do we currently have any american car manufacturer in F1 ?

F1 is not only about driving in straight line and hence American cars are not there in it. Look at Nascar, its the funniest sport in the world, going circles with not much to do with handling :rl

[danlalan]

Originally Posted by BUSA

F1 is not only about driving in straight line and hence American cars are not there in it. Look at Nascar, its the funniest sport in the world, going circles with not much to do with handling :rl

My god you have to be kidding to be comparing F1 with Nascar. Why do you claim nascar to be the funniest sport in the world???? any logical reasons???
I understand if you compare f1 with indycar or champ car for that matter.
Get a grip on yourself dude.

[danlalan]

This isnt really funny now its becoming more of an AMERICA vs the rest of the world thread than anything else.

THE FASTEST CAR IN THE WORLD???

AMERICA'S---->> THRUST SSC.

Can the rest of the world do anything about it????

Not for now atleast.

[Nikhilb2008]

Originally Posted by danlalan

This isnt really funny now its becoming more of an AMERICA vs the rest of the world thread than anything else.

THE FASTEST CAR IN THE WORLD???

AMERICA'S---->> THRUST SSC.

Can the rest of the world do anything about it????

Not for now atleast.

You mean the AERO SSC . hehe...

Anyway, no doubt that the AERO SSC is the fastest car in the world. No one is disputing that

[R32_GTR]

"Which is the fastest car in the world????" - Don't you think the whole concept is extremely vague??

Kindly define fast so you don't get unnecessary arguments and people going OT as usual.

Fast in terms of:

top speed, acceleration, around the n'ring and then there is production, prototype, purpose built etc and the list can go on.

Even after you have specified all of this, some people will still go OT!!

Welcome to Tbhp..

[2fast4u]

Originally Posted by danlalan

My god you have to be kidding to be comparing F1 with Nascar. Why do you claim nascar to be the funniest sport in the world???? any logical reasons???
I understand if you compare f1 with indycar or champ car for that matter.
Get a grip on yourself dude.

Nascar racing is like WWF wrestling.

[dadu]

I posted some information here, according to it "Dauer 962 Lemans" does 0-60 miles in just 2.6 seconds.

[vinee]

Originally Posted by danlalan

My god you have to be kidding to be comparing F1 with Nascar. Why do you claim nascar to be the funniest sport in the world???? any logical reasons???

Its just utterly pointless to see a number of cars circumnavigate a piece of ground. Why not have short drag races instead? Its plain boring as compared to any other form of motor-sport or anything else frankly.

I'd rather watch paint dry.

[sujaylahiri]

I think every person has a different perspective of the kind of fast car he or she wants. But when it comes to actual engineering, I think American cars are in no way inferior to their European or Japanese competitors. I am pretty sure that you cannot find the kind of technology which is there in a Z06 for under 80000$ in any road car, European or Japanese. Or you will never find a car with as much grunt as a Dodge Viper for the price you get it for.
If you just look at the latest offerings from the big 3, you'll see the technology they use in no way inferior to what is used in other parts of the world (VVT, DOD, Gasoline Direct Injection, Magnetic Ride Control etc etc). So what if the Americans like a little more power because of their wide roads, it doesn't mean that they make crappy cars. Also in my opinion, Americans make some pretty damn good looking cars as well.

[2fast4u]

Originally Posted by sujaylahiri

I think every person has a different perspective of the kind of fast car he or she wants. But when it comes to actual engineering, I think American cars are in no way inferior to their European or Japanese competitors. I am pretty sure that you cannot find the kind of technology which is there in a Z06 for under 80000$ in any road car, European or Japanese. Or you will never find a car with as much grunt as a Dodge Viper for the price you get it for.
If you just look at the latest offerings from the big 3, you'll see the technology they use in no way inferior to what is used in other parts of the world (VVT, DOD, Gasoline Direct Injection, Magnetic Ride Control etc etc). So what if the Americans like a little more power because of their wide roads, it doesn't mean that they make crappy cars. Also in my opinion, Americans make some pretty damn good looking cars as well.

thats a 7ltr 505hp = 72bhp/ltr, pushrods no dohc,
but then as they say no replacement for displacement.

lets hope to see the LS9 with dohc.

[sujaylahiri]

Originally Posted by 2fast4u

thats a 7ltr 505hp = 72bhp/ltr, pushrods no dohc,
but then as they say no replacement for displacement.

lets hope to see the LS9 with dohc.

I think many people have the misconception that if an engine has dohc, it is somewhat superior to those without DOHC. Some of the best engines in the world right now do not come with DOHC. As an example, consider the biturbo 6L V12 SOHC AMG used in many high end Mercs. It is in no way inferior to it's DOHC counterparts. Many automotive companies prefer not to use DOHC in their engine heads because of certain torque and rpm requirements. Japanese companies tend to use it in everything they make, and since in Asia they are really popular, people get the feeling that if they have a DOHC engine, it is better than the rest.

In fact, when I was a kid, people were so fascinated with the term that I used to see stickers on a Maruti 800 reading Twin Cam 16 valve. I'm sure you guys also must have seen it somewhere. In my opinion, the Japanese make low torque high revving engines which are pretty much useless in city driving unless you downshift every 10 seconds (be it manual or automatic). Check out the specs for the Civic Si and the Jetta GTI. Both have the exact same amount of power but the Jetta has approx. 50 ft lbs of torque more and at a much lower rpm range.

Also if you check out Chevy's offerings in the entry level segment in North America, you'll see that most of them have DOHC. It's not that they don't know how to use DOHC in their engines, it's just that they prefer not to use it in the Z06 now because of certain factors only known to them. Also they were the first to incorporate VVT with a pushrod, something which had never been done before.

[ac 427]

fastest car of all times : SSC AERO THRUST.

Fastest Production car : The Bugatti Veyron.

End of discussion.