F1 2011 - Germany -Nurburgring

PAVAN KADAM · 15th July 2011, 19:52

Santander Deutschland or simply call it the German Grand prix, considered to be the Oldest circuit of F1.

The circuit which most of them will envy while taking the corners (Turns 8 & 9) Named after the Legendary Michael Schumacher

Also a Home Track for the Mercedes GP.

And with the controversial Off-Throttle diffuser's back in action for RBR, we need to see how others match their pace with almost all the teams going into this race with lot of improvements on the car.

RACE TIMINGS:

Fri 22 July 2011

Practice 1 13:30 - 15:00

Practice 2 17:30 - 19:00

Sat 23 July 2011

Practice 3 14:30 - 15:30

Qualifying 17:30

Sun 24 July 2011

Race 17:30

Nürburgring Statistics

Race Date: 24 Jul 2011

Number of Laps: 60

Circuit Length: 5.148 km

Race Distance: 308.863 km

Lap Record: 1:29.468 - M. Schumacher (2004)

hdnivara · 15th July 2011, 21:18

This is going to be a crucial race for Ferrari/Maclaren. But, with FIA giving green flag to the off blown diffusers use, (which Redbull's RB7 depends heavily on) the Bulls might have a higher hand.
But, will the Ferrari able to pull up another show as they did in 2010? Lets wait and hope that this will be as interesting as British GP!

Kartik Krishnan · 19th July 2011, 18:24

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Originally Posted by hdnivara

But, will the Ferrari able to pull up another show as they did in 2010? Lets wait and hope that this will be as interesting as British GP!

Hoping for the best! Germany should be a good one.

sajands · 19th July 2011, 18:46

Germany is where the battle is won or lost for Ferrari and alonso.

PAVAN KADAM · 20th July 2011, 23:30

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Originally Posted by sajands

Germany is where the battle is won or lost for Ferrari and alonso.

I really dont see any chances of Alonso nor Ferrari making up to the top of the WDC or the Constructors..

Look at where they stand

WDC

1] - 204 - Sebastian Vettel
2] - 124 - Mark Webber
3] - 112 - Fernando Alonso
4] - 109 - Lewis Hamilton
5] - 109 - Jenson Button

CONSTRUCTORS

1] - 328 - RedBull-Renault
2] - 218 - Mclaren Mercedes
3] - 164 - Ferrari

I can see Mclaren Mercedes getting close to the Constructors, but Ferrari are 1/2 way down the mark..

nitrous · 21st July 2011, 00:25

Driver's and Constructor's championship for 2011 goes to *drum roll* Adrian Newey!!!

Hatari · 21st July 2011, 11:16

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Originally Posted by nitrous

Driver's and Constructor's championship for 2011 goes to *drum roll* Adrian Newey!!!

Though Vettel has been flawless (except for one corner at Canada where Jenson got by!)
He has the makings of a great champion no doubt.
Hope red bull, ferrari and mclaren provide Seb, Alonso and Lewis with competitive cars for an all out battle between the 3!
The other interesting one will be Rosberg vs Kubica (doubt Renault and Mercedes will be in the same league as the top 3 in the next few years atleast)
Sorry

Back to Germany, the potential for overtaking in the DRS zone seems to be limited given the high speed corners that precede it.
There is rain foreast!

With the exhaust-engine mappings back to the Valencia setting, I do expect Red Bull and McLaren to be much stronger.

anachronix · 21st July 2011, 15:03

Chandhok will drive the Lotus car this weekend at GermanGP

Auto_Song · 21st July 2011, 15:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAVAN KADAM

I really dont see any chances of Alonso nor Ferrari making up to the top of the WDC or the Constructors..

Look at where they stand

WDC

1] - 204 - Sebastian Vettel
2] - 124 - Mark Webber
3] - 112 - Fernando Alonso
4] - 109 - Lewis Hamilton
5] - 109 - Jenson Button

CONSTRUCTORS

1] - 328 - RedBull-Renault
2] - 218 - Mclaren Mercedes
3] - 164 - Ferrari

I can see Mclaren Mercedes getting close to the Constructors, but Ferrari are 1/2 way down the mark..

True...Both Alonso & Hamilton If I am not wrong soon after Valencia had decal red themselves out of the title race.
But yes with the new rule coming in can make the upcoming races interesting , But yes the Winner is almost concluded...here.

curiosity · 21st July 2011, 18:50

I am really surprised with the Team Lotus announcement and especially the timing. Guys what are the chances he may race for the Indian GP? Another trick in the trade by Mr. Ecclestone?

Hatari · 22nd July 2011, 11:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by curiosity

I am really surprised with the Team Lotus announcement and especially the timing. Guys what are the chances he may race for the Indian GP? Another trick in the trade by Mr. Ecclestone?

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/intl-m...ml#post2439672

deetjohn · 23rd July 2011, 07:21

Ferrari show very good pace in FP1 & FP2. Alonso showed consistent time with both rubber over the longer stints and the fastest laps coming towards the end of those stints. And Massa is up there as well and we all know Felipe is just as fast when he has a good car under him. So, it shows Ferrari is getting there.

Like I posted in the Silverstone thread, Ferrari wouldn't have agreed for the off-throttle EBD had they not been comfortable with it. And is all out to prove that the Silverstone win was no one-off because of the off-throttle EBD ban.

It may be a case of too little too late for the season, but at least we have a chase now!

Also, Ferrari is praying for a dry weekend. Alonso urges Ferrari to start taking risks to catch Red Bull - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com

PAVAN KADAM · 23rd July 2011, 18:21

Nurburgring track seems a little boring to me.

. Maybe Qualifying is like that.

Cant really make out what excitement the track will throw for tomorrows race ?

If the rain gods throw in a little rain, i hope so.!

PAVAN KADAM · 24th July 2011, 18:53

Jenson Button..! -RETIRED Sad luck, he looked good though.

RBR looks vulnerable in this race, all thanks to Hamilton

But why did they get him to do that 3rd pitstop..? He still beat Alonso.

Mercedes GP not yet there.

What a race by Force India Adrian Sutil... Fantastic.

AND ON A GERMAN GRAND PRIX, NO GERMAN DRIVER on the Podium..

speedmiester · 24th July 2011, 19:20

What a great race!!
Excellent driving by all the top drivers.

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PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,602 Thanked: 2,549 Times	F1 2011 - Germany -Nurburgring Santander Deutschland or simply call it the German Grand prix, considered to be the Oldest circuit of F1. The circuit which most of them will envy while taking the corners (Turns 8 & 9) Named after the Legendary Michael Schumacher Also a Home Track for the Mercedes GP. And with the controversial Off-Throttle diffuser's back in action for RBR, we need to see how others match their pace with almost all the teams going into this race with lot of improvements on the car. RACE TIMINGS: Fri 22 July 2011 Practice 1 13:30 - 15:00 Practice 2 17:30 - 19:00 Sat 23 July 2011 Practice 3 14:30 - 15:30 Qualifying 17:30 Sun 24 July 2011 Race 17:30 Nürburgring Statistics Race Date: 24 Jul 2011 Number of Laps: 60 Circuit Length: 5.148 km Race Distance: 308.863 km Lap Record: 1:29.468 - M. Schumacher (2004) Attached Thumbnails
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curiosity BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Mumbai Posts: 115 Thanked: 87 Times	Re: F1 2011 - Germany -Nurburgring I am really surprised with the Team Lotus announcement and especially the timing. Guys what are the chances he may race for the Indian GP? Another trick in the trade by Mr. Ecclestone?
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deetjohn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kochi Posts: 4,530 Thanked: 10,583 Times View My Garage	Re: F1 2011 - Germany -Nurburgring Ferrari show very good pace in FP1 & FP2. Alonso showed consistent time with both rubber over the longer stints and the fastest laps coming towards the end of those stints. And Massa is up there as well and we all know Felipe is just as fast when he has a good car under him. So, it shows Ferrari is getting there. Like I posted in the Silverstone thread, Ferrari wouldn't have agreed for the off-throttle EBD had they not been comfortable with it. And is all out to prove that the Silverstone win was no one-off because of the off-throttle EBD ban. It may be a case of too little too late for the season, but at least we have a chase now! Also, Ferrari is praying for a dry weekend. Alonso urges Ferrari to start taking risks to catch Red Bull - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com
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PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,602 Thanked: 2,549 Times	Re: F1 2011 - Germany -Nurburgring Nurburgring track seems a little boring to me.. Maybe Qualifying is like that. Cant really make out what excitement the track will throw for tomorrows race ? If the rain gods throw in a little rain, i hope so.! Last edited by PAVAN KADAM : 23rd July 2011 at 18:23.
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PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,602 Thanked: 2,549 Times	Re: F1 2011 - Germany -Nurburgring Jenson Button..! -RETIRED Sad luck, he looked good though. RBR looks vulnerable in this race, all thanks to Hamilton But why did they get him to do that 3rd pitstop..? He still beat Alonso. Mercedes GP not yet there. What a race by Force India Adrian Sutil... Fantastic. AND ON A GERMAN GRAND PRIX, NO GERMAN DRIVER on the Podium.. Last edited by PAVAN KADAM : 24th July 2011 at 19:21.
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