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Old 7th October 2012, 21:18   #46
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This is Alonso's puncture that led to his retirement.


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Old 7th October 2012, 22:25   #47
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Good drive from Kobayashi. Good result for Massa too. Should lift his morale for upcoming races. Sad for Alonso (though it should be seen as a racing incident). He deserves the championship more than anyone else this year. But now I will be surprised if Vettel again doesn't take it. Ferrari seem to have a uphill task at their hand.
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All in all an average race, vettel nailed it to perfection and a much needed booster to poor massa. Guess kobayashi was the happiest.The DRS zone shortening by 20 mtrs this time helped to avoid the artificial overtakings.Webbo thinks Grosjean is a first lap nutcase! Think he should learn about it from kimi who barring 2 run ins in 2009 is one of the cleanest guys to race with.The way he avoided turning into hammo after coming out of his pitstop was good anticipation. I remember an article by Mclaren team doctor in 2003 who did tests and was amazed by the positional sense of the finn.Alonso on the other hand eventhough had a tangle, maybe brought on by squeezing kimi as the commentators tought had quite the opposite to say post race and in a way reveals some of his double standardness."you always have to leave some room" - may be for everyone else except him?? At the outset i think its just a racing incident with both guys could have ended trying better to avoid it.

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Vettel & RB seem to be all set for the 3rd Championships this season. Mclaren is the only team thats capable of fighting the bulls, the Ferrari is clearly far away with outright pace. Its getting tougher for Ferrari & Alonso.

Another Romain incident, he looked like he was sleeping going into Turn1. No reaction to brake until he made contact with Webber's car.

What happened to this kid Perez? He seemed over-excited when he saw Hamilton on track, his first overtake going into the hairpin was very aggressive, similarly trying to take the outside line in the hairpin was an outright stupid move. He could have finished ahead of Button if he kept the car on track!

It was a boring Suzuka otherwise!

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This is Alonso's puncture that led to his retirement.
It was not the puncture that caused the retirement but the puncture caused the spin, Alonso stalled the engine after the spin and couldnt continue!
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What happened to this kid Perez? He seemed over-excited when he saw Hamilton on track, his first overtake going into the hairpin was very aggressive, similarly trying to take the outside line in the hairpin was an outright stupid move. He could have finished ahead of Button if he kept the car on track!
Exactly my thoughts. Sky F1 had a post race analysis of the incident, which showed Hamilton taking a inside line so that Perez won't repeat the previous move. Any ways he was never in a position to complete that maneuver, as soon as he hit the brakes the rear stepped out and after that, he was trying not to crash in to Hamilton than execute an overtaking maneuver.
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Romain's reaction after the race.



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Re: 2012 F1 - SUZUKA - Japanese Grand Prix

Kimi kind of destroyed it for Alonso on both Saturday and Sunday, isn't it?

Kimi' spin in Q3 meant Alonso qualified 7th and was right in the middle of a first turn melee. Not to forget the poke too.
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^^ In hindsight it is probably inconsequential in terms of the WDC.
As Alonso said, the mini championship starts now, and Ferrari are unable to match Red Bull's pace. In addition, wind tunnel issues have hampered development. So a lot of catching up to do to challenge Vettel for race wins.
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I can see potential controversies coming up.

Let's say in one of the races, Felipe has a "racing incident" with Vettel which puts both of them out. Wouldn't surprise a whole lot of people if that happens. Though for that to happen, Felipe has to be close to Vettel. Only time that has happened this year is when Vettel is lapping him!
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I can see potential controversies coming up.

Let's say in one of the races, Felipe has a "racing incident" with Vettel which puts both of them out. Wouldn't surprise a whole lot of people if that happens. Though for that to happen, Felipe has to be close to Vettel. Only time that has happened this year is when Vettel is lapping him!
When has this ever happened in F1??
Drivers would try to slow an opponent down for the sake of his teammate, that itself is extremely rare and improbable.
You are talking about Massa deliberately crashing into Vettel??

No one in F1 will ever do this.
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When has this ever happened in F1??
Drivers would try to slow an opponent down for the sake of his teammate, that itself is extremely rare and improbable.
You are talking about Massa deliberately crashing into Vettel??

No one in F1 will ever do this.
Yes, and Piquet Jr. would not deliberately crash to help his team-mate (Alonso) get a win.

Whether Ferrari or Massa would attempt this - is another question. Hopefully not but I can see allegations flying if either of them are within sniffing distance of each other, esp. in qualifying.
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Yes, and Piquet Jr. would not deliberately crash to help his team-mate (Alonso) get a win.

Whether Ferrari or Massa would attempt this - is another question. Hopefully not but I can see allegations flying if either of them are within sniffing distance of each other, esp. in qualifying.
Piquet Jr crashed into a wall not another driver. Big difference chief.
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