Montoya to leave F1 for NASCAR not in 2007 but NOW!

Hatari · 11th July 2006, 11:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by ranjan united

It does seem obvoius. but i have a feeling that Ron Dennis is gonna hold him out for atleast another season. He is still quite inexperienced with an F1 car and i'm pretty sure McLaren wouldn't want a Yuji Ide situation here.

hamilton is still too young for F1..
he needs a full yr of testing atleast
so no chance of him landing the F1 seat at mclaren

if kimi leaves.. they havent got too many other options

Revvhead · 11th July 2006, 12:07

Kimi was too young for F1 - so they said.
He had waaaay less experience than Hamliton, Just a total of 26 single seater races in his lifetime, in all categories, the highes of which was formula renault.
He had to drive under a 4 race probation period from the FIA (read max moseley who was highy unhappy about Sauber fielding him as a driver)

Hamilton is racing in GP2, a series created as the primary stepping stone to F1
What will decide hamiltons future is Kimi's decision.

Secondly Dennis may place him in a lesser team for his first year, ala what Briatore did with fernando alonso & Mark webber in Minardi

haryan · 11th July 2006, 13:00

F1 will miss Montoya's Straight from head attitude ...
well .. lets hope he will make a mark in NASCAR

tifosikrishna · 11th July 2006, 14:17

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Originally Posted by Revvhead

Here's a clip of what montoya was more about- instead of concentrating on racing hard and straight, he spent too much time bothering about his rivals.
Now in this clip he shows the spatial awareness and quick relfelxes and cool head of an F1 champ.

http://www.Youtube.com/watch?v=ZpGQFizs7HA

that was a real good video,

... look at how his girlfriend trying to shut his mouth...

ranjan united · 11th July 2006, 14:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revvhead

Now in this clip he shows the spatial awareness and quick relfelxes and cool head of an F1 champ.

http://www.Youtube.com/watch?v=ZpGQFizs7HA

Ha Ha.. What a F**kin' Idiot !!!!

maybe tht knock xplains his driving style.

Revvhead · 11th July 2006, 15:07

thassrite folks
You heard me correctly.
Crazy Monty is outta F1 pronto
PDLR will be raplacing him starting from the french grand prix in Mangy Cours

Now that is a shocker and surprise for me
I never really expected that he would be out before the season ended. Thats crazy,
In a way its a good move By maclaren, why run a guy with no more motivation
PDLR has been testing the car for ages and is familiar with it
so a better chance of some results there,
Plus they will save on spare parts and chassis!!!

whike its supposedly by mutual consent it more like he was

2L8uLoose · 11th July 2006, 15:31

WOOHOO!!!!
http://f1.racing-live.com/f1/en/index.shtml
Here everyone... READ THE GOOD NEWS!!!!!

madhav · 11th July 2006, 16:32

oh! man that is good news. The minute I heard about Monty news I was hoping some good sense will prevail in the McLaren camp and they would give Pedro the chance to show some good driving.

BTW, no matter who is driving where next year, Ferrari is going to have the biggest advantage...tyres. So Schumi might just want to make it Eight titles with that advantage before he calls it a day!

So kimi got to hangon for another season atleast....

s.prashanth · 11th July 2006, 16:37

Good for montoya, he needed a good team to prove himself, guess Mclare has lost it right now, would have loved to see Montoya and Jaques in the same team, the team principal would have pulled his hair out I guess

Hatari · 11th July 2006, 17:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revvhead

Kimi was too young for F1 - so they said.
He had waaaay less experience than Hamliton, Just a total of 26 single seater races in his lifetime, in all categories, the highes of which was formula renault.
He had to drive under a 4 race probation period from the FIA (read max moseley who was highy unhappy about Sauber fielding him as a driver)

Hamilton is racing in GP2, a series created as the primary stepping stone to F1
What will decide hamiltons future is Kimi's decision.

Secondly Dennis may place him in a lesser team for his first year, ala what Briatore did with fernando alonso & Mark webber in Minardi

kimi is unique..
and every driver needs an introductory yr in F1..
kimi had his with sauber.. hamilton hasnt had any running in an F1 car..
and mclaren cant afford to train him while trying to win the championship
sauber never had that goal

unless mercedes supplies engines to a lesser team to secure a seat for him..
i think it'l be a year of testing..

not too suprised by montoya leaving immediately..
he's clearly said he's not enjoying F1
pedro is a good temporary solution.. he knows the mp4-21 like no one else..
and mclaren need his stability, reliability and him as a consistent race finisher
lets see how much down on speed he is on kimi

Revvhead · 11th July 2006, 18:13

Slightly OT here--

Ermmm, not every driver
and i can name a few
Jaques Villenueve- almost won his first race
Damon Hill, had a pretty damn good first year with williams
Ditto for David Coulthard- victory in his first year
Michael Schumacher - darn good first year

The point is- while hamilton is young, He is Leading the GP2 series
The top 2 GP2 guys from Last year are alredy in F1- Nico Rosberg (hardly anyone had heard of him or gave him a chance) & Heikki Kovalienen- currentsly renaults tester and likely to gill the 2nd seat if Kimi doesnt go there

The question is, does ron dennis risk pairing a rookie like him with Alonso and hope that it doesnt destroy hamiltons confidence??
or stick him in another team

Simply saying Kimi is unique- and using that argument to dismiss the possibility of Hamilton getting a seat is not really backing up your argument

The possibility of Hamilton landing a race seat for next year is far greater than the possibility of any other F1 rookie apart from Kovalienen.
The guys in line for a possible drive are Gary Paffet, Wurtz??, Hamilton, Kovalienen

gr8guzzler · 11th July 2006, 22:01

F1 just became a tad more boring....good luck to JPM for his future...

Cheers!!!

speedzak · 12th July 2006, 04:19

Whatever!
JPM was counted amongst the top10 drivers of 2006! Ain't it good? Yes, he was better than M.Schumacher!
Atleast, he does'nt cheat!
Bon Voyage Montoya! We'll miss you.

Revvhead · 12th July 2006, 09:20

yeah right, so Juanita made to the top 10 of 2006....wow.
Lets see, hmm, get rid of the super aguris, the midlands, torro rosso's & a little discount to the red bulls, thats should be 8 drivers out of 20 removed... How hard is it to be in the top 10 with a maclaren after that??

Errr, one M schumacher still has a job, in fact last i heard, in case he leaves ferrari, every pit boss is lined up to offer him one- Incl Frankie williams- who HATES to pay top dollars for a driver & renault.

Better than M Schu.. Well thats what he was shouting from the rooftops when he came into F1, He joined F1 10 years after the Schu & has been dropped Mid season (Ala Michael andretti in 1993) while schuey is still in the game. oh and the score is 83-7 in schumachers favour -and thats only wins we are talking about

While i will wholly agree the One Problem Montoya is a bloody talented driver, he never bothered backing up that talent with some thinking and hard work

Look how he suffered post Ralf Schumachers departure from Williams- why, coz in the previous year whenever he couldnt find setup, they would give him ralf's setting. Montys tech feedback sucks, Look at the way Maclaren are struggling, they arent getting good tech Feedback from both drivers

Entertaining - Yes, Good to watch yes (sometime for comdey as well)
better than Michael

Hell he could barely better ralf and Kimi is hammering him. Let him beat his team mate first and get to the front to start with

madhav · 12th July 2006, 09:42

Maybe McLaren should just stick to Pedro for the next season. He has spent enough time in the car, has had racing experience and whats more important will be his ability to give good technical feedback from the race also. Alonso has been praised for this ability to provide useful info to the engineers and having two drivers with the right ability can prove very useful for McLaren. So prepare Paffet and Hamilton for the 2008 season and use Alonso and Pedro to improve the car.... they'll need this experience as they are going to be running new rubber next season!!

11th July 2006, 12:07	#17
Revvhead BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 450 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	Kimi was too young for F1 - so they said. He had waaaay less experience than Hamliton, Just a total of 26 single seater races in his lifetime, in all categories, the highes of which was formula renault. He had to drive under a 4 race probation period from the FIA (read max moseley who was highy unhappy about Sauber fielding him as a driver) Hamilton is racing in GP2, a series created as the primary stepping stone to F1 What will decide hamiltons future is Kimi's decision. Secondly Dennis may place him in a lesser team for his first year, ala what Briatore did with fernando alonso & Mark webber in Minardi
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11th July 2006, 13:00	#18
haryan BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: HYDERABAD INDIA Posts: 345 Thanked: 5 Times	F1 will miss Montoya's Straight from head attitude ... well .. lets hope he will make a mark in NASCAR
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11th July 2006, 15:07	#21
Revvhead BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 450 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	Montoya out of F1 as of NOW!!!!! thassrite folks You heard me correctly. Crazy Monty is outta F1 pronto PDLR will be raplacing him starting from the french grand prix in Mangy Cours Now that is a shocker and surprise for me I never really expected that he would be out before the season ended. Thats crazy, In a way its a good move By maclaren, why run a guy with no more motivation PDLR has been testing the car for ages and is familiar with it so a better chance of some results there, Plus they will save on spare parts and chassis!!! whike its supposedly by mutual consent it more like he was
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11th July 2006, 15:31	#22
2L8uLoose BANNED Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 628 Thanked: 6 Times View My Garage	WOOHOO!!!! http://f1.racing-live.com/f1/en/index.shtml Here everyone... READ THE GOOD NEWS!!!!!
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11th July 2006, 16:32	#23
madhav BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 286 Thanked: 73 Times	oh! man that is good news. The minute I heard about Monty news I was hoping some good sense will prevail in the McLaren camp and they would give Pedro the chance to show some good driving. BTW, no matter who is driving where next year, Ferrari is going to have the biggest advantage...tyres. So Schumi might just want to make it Eight titles with that advantage before he calls it a day! So kimi got to hangon for another season atleast....
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11th July 2006, 16:37	#24
s.prashanth BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 365 Thanked: 85 Times	Good for montoya, he needed a good team to prove himself, guess Mclare has lost it right now, would have loved to see Montoya and Jaques in the same team, the team principal would have pulled his hair out I guess
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11th July 2006, 18:13	#26
Revvhead BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 450 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	Slightly OT here-- Ermmm, not every driver and i can name a few Jaques Villenueve- almost won his first race Damon Hill, had a pretty damn good first year with williams Ditto for David Coulthard- victory in his first year Michael Schumacher - darn good first year The point is- while hamilton is young, He is Leading the GP2 series The top 2 GP2 guys from Last year are alredy in F1- Nico Rosberg (hardly anyone had heard of him or gave him a chance) & Heikki Kovalienen- currentsly renaults tester and likely to gill the 2nd seat if Kimi doesnt go there The question is, does ron dennis risk pairing a rookie like him with Alonso and hope that it doesnt destroy hamiltons confidence?? or stick him in another team Simply saying Kimi is unique- and using that argument to dismiss the possibility of Hamilton getting a seat is not really backing up your argument The possibility of Hamilton landing a race seat for next year is far greater than the possibility of any other F1 rookie apart from Kovalienen. The guys in line for a possible drive are Gary Paffet, Wurtz??, Hamilton, Kovalienen
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11th July 2006, 22:01	#27
gr8guzzler BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 653 Thanked: 87 Times View My Garage	F1 just became a tad more boring....good luck to JPM for his future... Cheers!!!
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12th July 2006, 04:19	#28
speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,347 Thanked: 27 Times	Whatever! JPM was counted amongst the top10 drivers of 2006! Ain't it good? Yes, he was better than M.Schumacher! Atleast, he does'nt cheat! Bon Voyage Montoya! We'll miss you.
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12th July 2006, 09:20	#29
Revvhead BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 450 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	yeah right, so Juanita made to the top 10 of 2006....wow. Lets see, hmm, get rid of the super aguris, the midlands, torro rosso's & a little discount to the red bulls, thats should be 8 drivers out of 20 removed... How hard is it to be in the top 10 with a maclaren after that?? Errr, one M schumacher still has a job, in fact last i heard, in case he leaves ferrari, every pit boss is lined up to offer him one- Incl Frankie williams- who HATES to pay top dollars for a driver & renault. Better than M Schu.. Well thats what he was shouting from the rooftops when he came into F1, He joined F1 10 years after the Schu & has been dropped Mid season (Ala Michael andretti in 1993) while schuey is still in the game. oh and the score is 83-7 in schumachers favour -and thats only wins we are talking about While i will wholly agree the One Problem Montoya is a bloody talented driver, he never bothered backing up that talent with some thinking and hard work Look how he suffered post Ralf Schumachers departure from Williams- why, coz in the previous year whenever he couldnt find setup, they would give him ralf's setting. Montys tech feedback sucks, Look at the way Maclaren are struggling, they arent getting good tech Feedback from both drivers Entertaining - Yes, Good to watch yes (sometime for comdey as well) better than Michael Hell he could barely better ralf and Kimi is hammering him. Let him beat his team mate first and get to the front to start with
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12th July 2006, 09:42	#30
madhav BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 286 Thanked: 73 Times	Maybe McLaren should just stick to Pedro for the next season. He has spent enough time in the car, has had racing experience and whats more important will be his ability to give good technical feedback from the race also. Alonso has been praised for this ability to provide useful info to the engineers and having two drivers with the right ability can prove very useful for McLaren. So prepare Paffet and Hamilton for the 2008 season and use Alonso and Pedro to improve the car.... they'll need this experience as they are going to be running new rubber next season!!
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