[Manoj2268]

Yep, F-1 Cars have higher cornering speeds when compared to MotoGP prototypes. That leads to such a high difference in lap times. Over a quarter mile drag, the MotoGP bike will probably knock the socks off the F1 car.

[im_srini]

Originally Posted by Manoj2268

Yep, F-1 Cars have higher cornering speeds when compared to MotoGP prototypes.
That leads to such a high difference in lap times.
Over a quarter mile drag, the MotoGP bike will probably knock the socks off the F1 car.

True, wonder what the respective times are for a MotoGP bike & an F1 car between turns 13 & 1 on the Catalunya track ?

Originally Posted by JayKis

The F1 car is much faster than a motogp bike in all the circuits.
In some circuits it could be as big as half a minute per lap !
E.g., The F1 record is 1:34.2 and the Moto GP record is 1:59.7 in Sepang.

30 seconds ! That's an eternity isn't it - for all the fury & excitement, the bikes are so much slower compared to the cars.
And the difference in time is amazing - even with yesterday's "lap record", the leading Suzuki would've been left behind by Roberto-Merhi in his Marussia by ~8 seconds !
The MotoGP bikes wouldn't have even made the 107% rule, which was 01:32:428 for this year's Spanish GP.

And to think the cars have to keep up the incredible pace for 66 laps while the bikes have to do just 25 laps.
In a way, sounds sort of like the difference between Men's & Women's tennis doesn't it ?
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[Sheel]

Originally Posted by im_srini

30 seconds ! That's an eternity isn't it - for all the fury & excitement, the bikes are so much slower compared to the cars.

And to think the cars have to keep up the incredible pace for 66 laps while the bikes have to do just 25 laps.
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Well, you must also note, bikes race on 2 wheels & braking is carried by a thin patch of tire at the front. And corners...? You have 4 big, fat contact patches compared to 60 degree turns one takes on a Moto GP bike with contact patch as thin as your favorite banned Maggi noodles.

Moto GP bikes are slower because of this. And watch both, actually, its very hard not to sleep in a F1 race and that too nowadays, all the winning losing happens when a car pits.

Its like comparing a 4WD Jeep to a fast hatch. You maybe faster, but I can go anywhere.

[MonsterPatrol]

If Suzuki don't lose too many positions in the run to the first turn at the start then it'll make the race very interesting. For sure they have the pace to stay with Jorge for first 6 laps atleast but can they outrun the Hondas and ducatis with massive horsepower charging from behind at the start? That's something we'll have to wait and see.Both Dovi and Pedrosa on second row are fantastic off the line.By my predictions Suzukis will go absolutely mental in the first few laps to stay with the pack riding well over the limit. The prospect makes it very exciting to look forward to.

How many of you think the 'soft tire' needs to go now to make it level playing field in the Quali? (ducati have had it for a long time now) I myself have two opinions about it. From rider point of view it is unfair but from spectator point of view it's very exciting to watch all the records broken n positions changing every few seconds. By my assumptions I think Dorna have given this particular concession to mainly to boost the morale of factory teams and engineers(how happy were suzuki mechanics yesterday taking photographs of the timing screens with their phones) who would pour more money into development than ever before to get the results.Something Pedrosa was skeptical of when he got an offer from Suzuki last year.

The factories of ducati n suzuki already have 7 extra engines with freedom to develop it over the year and 2 litres of extra fuel to work with (Suzuki still has 4). The soft tyre concession? That's debateable.

[Mashblue]

Its the race pace which matters, not the starting grid position. I dont think suzuki can pull off a miracle by managing a podium, their pace for a stretch of a race is not up with the best yet but they are definitely on their way.
Lorenzo has said all weekend, it's the race pace he wants to concentrate on, so

[fz_rider]

Originally Posted by im_srini

30 seconds ! That's an eternity isn't it - for all the fury & excitement, the bikes are so much slower compared to the cars.
And the difference in time is amazing - even with yesterday's "lap record", the leading Suzuki would've been left behind by Roberto-Merhi in his Marussia by ~8 seconds !
The MotoGP bikes wouldn't have even made the 107% rule, which was 01:32:428 for this year's Spanish GP.

And to think the cars have to keep up the incredible pace for 66 laps while the bikes have to do just 25 laps.
In a way, sounds sort of like the difference between Men's & Women's tennis doesn't it ?
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I don't understand the need for comparison. Aren't you missing the two wheels here?

If you really want to compare them, circuits like Monza and Montreal will give you the a proper perspective.

Also, as in F1, bikes don't do qualifying with full tank.

[MonsterPatrol]

Originally Posted by Mashblue

Its the race pace which matters, not the starting grid position. I dont think suzuki can pull off a miracle by managing a podium, their pace for a stretch of a race is not up with the best yet but they are definitely on their way.
Lorenzo has said all weekend, it's the race pace he wants to concentrate on, so

Absolutely.. In FP4 he did 1.42.7 on a tyre 32 laps old. That's demonic pace. Go Jorge! make it 4 in a row

Meanwhile check out the lean angle. Simply Incredible

[MonsterPatrol]

Good news for Casey Stoner fans, he'll be doing a lap on the newly launched Honda RC213-S road bike. Gibernau and Biaggi expected in the paddock too.

[fz_rider]

That's game over for Marquez. Lorenzo looks dominating. Its going to be Rossi and Lorenzo battling for championship.

[ebonho]

Lorenzo fans having dirty ominous foreboding feeling in pit of their stomachs ha ha ha ha ha !!!!!

jinx ....

[Mashblue]

As cool as you like, Its 4 in a row for Lorenzo . Rossi's lead cut down to just ONE point, ominous foreboding feelings for rossi fans understandably .

[MonsterPatrol]

"How did you like the sniffin mate? Better luck in ASSen"

[JayKis]

Originally Posted by Mashblue

As cool as you like, Its 4 in a row for Lorenzo . Rossi's lead cut down to just ONE point, ominous foreboding feelings for rossi fans understandably .

Classic example of foot in the mouth and jumping the gun, aint it?


Not the ideal conditions for Lorenzo. Hot. Rossi was close enough this time to mount a challenge, the conditions were conducive to him as well. But didnt happen. Marquez did well for the initial few laps. It could be seen that he was on the limit. Full marks for trying thou. His ambition outweighed his bike. Scott Redding had his best finish so far. The Suzukis still have some way to go. They went from 1st to 10th by the first corner!

Some pics.

[MonsterPatrol]

Ha ha ha this is epic!

[badri]

Good race for Yam! Very glad to see Pedrosa on podium..

I hope it dawns on to Marquez that getting podiums when you can't win is a more logical approach than to bin it trying to win every race. As a Yam fan I don't have any complaints about the result but it is never nice to see a rider crash..