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Originally Posted by Tanmay K Sad to see Alonso struggling so much in spite of being one of the better drivers around right now.
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Originally Posted by mayankk Mclaren. Oh Mclaren. Whither art thou?
What is wrong with this Honda association. A behemoth like Honda is getting it's engines from lada, what? One full season of Mclaren DNA, two world champions, multitude of championships, the current and future champion who cut his teeth here, and it's being treated like an extended testing session? It's becoming ultra disappointing. | Quote:
Originally Posted by tharian Listening to the Honda engine note from the camera on Alonso's car, it sounded so rough and strained even without comparing it to another cars sound.
There was one turn where the downshift was almost after the turn was complete and it felt like a gear slip on some old car.
Sad state for a company which otherwise makes brilliant engines. | Quote:
Originally Posted by avdhesh15 Honda is really struggling and it's really a pain for someone like me who has been a big Alonso fan so see him and Button struggle so much. It's unbelievable that 10+ races down the line they still haven't been able to sort out their stuff.
They were supposed to be faster than Renault this weekend but seeing Button unable to overtake the Renault powered car despite having DRS down the main straight said it all.
McLaren should bite the bullet - get back to Mercedes and give these 2 world champion drivers a change to reclaim lost glory. | Quote:
Originally Posted by dustom_99 I don't see McLaren into points even in Singapore. There chassis seems to be OK , but OK is bare minimum, with merc , ferrari ,red bull,Williams , top 8 are almost sealed even in Singapore. Last 2 places and lot of good cars and good drivers eager to take them. |
Honda is in such deep trouble that they cannot get themselves out of it using the tokens that are remaining this season. The development game at the moment is heavily tilted towards Mercedes/ Ferrari and others are bound to end up taking more risks to catch up with them.
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The first engine updates introduced at the Canadian Grand Prix, aimed at improving the reliability of the motor generator units should probably have been approved as reliability upgrades. But the way F1 regulations are presently set up, a unanimous approval from all rival manufacturers is required for a reliability upgrade and unfortunately Honda could not secure everyone's approval & had to use tokens to make reliability upgrades to their inefficient MGUs. Talk about kicking someone while he is down. The MGU designs & layout are to be changed again before the next year using the 25 tokens available at the end of 2015.
I think what really surprised them was the necessary changes to the combustion chamber, intake and exhaust for reducing stress on other engine components. There were some critical faults in the internal combustion chamber design that was having a knock on effect on the other components by placing undue stress on them. After spending the tokens required to fix the combustion issues, they just don't have enough tokens left.
I hope that the design validating processes and dyno testing and feedback processes in their factory have been questioned internally as this kind of problem is something that should have been picked up quite early during the testing of the PU. Hopefully Honda will come out stronger through these issues.
After fixing the ICE part of the PU, the main issue is the ERS part for which they do not have enough tokens left this year.
Wonder what if Honda could demonstrate a PU running in their factory with all necessary changes and then call for a change in the rules. Seems highly unlikely as they are said to have dismissed a proposal from Renault in the Technical Working Group that the FIA seemed ready to accept and would have allowed the two manufacturers to develop the power unit during the 2016 season, to retrieve the technical gap that separates them from Mercedes and Ferrari.
They seem like wanting to do it the hard way. Probably victory will taste sweeter like that. There is also the philosophy of "Win at all costs", which the European manufacturers are following by poaching staff from other teams which they are reluctant to follow. In any case, Honda will soon open their research and development center in Milton Keynes and advertisements have already appeared looking for staff. Looks like they are not in a hurry where as McLaren and their fans want to win yesterday. Quote:
It is understood that solutions to the energy recovery deficit will need a rethink of certain key components – which are believed to include the compressor.
Such changes cannot be made during the campaign because of the tight engine homologation regulations.
Arai said therefore that progress would be limited this year, even with development tokens left to use, but suggested that bigger changes for 2016 were already being prepared.
“We already found what is the weak point for the power unit, so we have already started work on next season development,” he explained.
“We are in a good direction, but the results are not so good,” he said. “I hope we do our best for the rest of the season. We want to use our tokens for the next few races.”
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Source : http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ho...hange-for-2016
Last edited by jfxavier : 7th September 2015 at 15:14.
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