[ranjan united]

My dislike for Ferrari's on and off-track policies grows even further with this new bombshell. Ex-Sauber F1 driver Norberto Fontana reveals Jean Todt's dirty tricks at Jerez 1997.

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns17477.html

Also, the link to the video for the incident, where Fontana blocked Villneuve.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8rv23q9sZM

This time, noone can support Ferrari's "claim of innocence", since this piece of truth is not speculation, but comes from the horse's mouth itself.
Carefully listen to Murray Walker's commentary in the video.

P.S. pls do not turn this discussion into a "Schumacher ran into Villneuve" debate. It will only inadvertenly lead to Schumi bashing and loads of unpleasantries. Ferrari talk only.

[khanak]

In the end Villeneuve challenged Schumacher for the lead and the two cars collided. Schumacher went off into a gravel trap and was unable to rejoin. Villeneuve won the World Championship and Michael Schumacher was later punished for deliberately driving Villeneuve off the track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT6tZnufdRY&NR

[turbo_v12]

To what limit will we MS and Ferrari haters go to prove this and that.....and we are always wrong....right?

Awaiting an answer from you merve_extreme...ha ha

[2L8uLoose]

Originally Posted by turbo_v12

To what limit will we MS and Ferrari haters go to prove this and that.....and we are always wrong....right?

Awaiting an answer from you merve_extreme...ha ha

... this thread does not even warrant a reply/justification/denial...
Have fun ya bunch of haters!

[F50]

Watch this video

Gilles vs Arnoux

You will never see such wheel to wheel battle in current F1 races. And battle was going on on the last two laps. Absolute treat.

[madhav]

MS is gonna retire and with him will end an era where there were many records and many more controversies!
I've been Ferrari & MS hater all my life, but learnt that the Ferrari supporters will support Ferrari and we guys will not.... so no point arguing with them!
So moving on... like Martin Whitmarsh said, the time ahead in F1 is going to be real exciting. You see young blood like Kubica, Rosberg, Vettle, Heikki etc, coming in... maybe they don't carry records, wins or controversies, but they will be true racers and maybe we'll get to see some good (fair) fights on the track. Post Schumi era is going to be one helluva blast!
2007 The Refreshing Formula 1 season!

[Joz]

Success to a man is often measured by the number of people against him....

[Samurai]

Just an advance warning. This thread better not turn into one more slug-fest between MS fans and haters. The thread will be deleted if that happens, not just closed.

I don't follow F1, therefore I will be impartial.

[Dippy]

Another thread on Ferrari, MS and how they cheat in F1 yawwwnnn....

[manson]

Ferrari surely have a way of doing things, winning or cheating, they do it in style. But all the losers can do is whine!!

manson.

[Steeroid]

We should have a yawning smiley. Or would that be a yawnee?

[finneyp]

Mods, can we change the title of this thread?
It seems only Ferrari cheats, rest all are Angels of God!!!

[ranjan united]

Originally Posted by Samurai

Just an advance warning. This thread better not turn into one more slug-fest between MS fans and haters. The thread will be deleted if that happens, not just closed.

I don't follow F1, therefore I will be impartial.

As I mentioned in my first post, I put it up to talk about Ferrari and Jean Todt only. Yet if people want to turn this one as a fans vs haters post as well, by all means pls delete it.
Despite me mentioning this, there are already some disgruntled Schumi fans posting about hating. This is not about Schumi. There is more to F1 than him.