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Originally Posted by myavu Sorry I can't stop answering this.
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Originally Posted by thecarguy The 1994 ferrari was a dog of a car, 3 pole position and 1 win. |
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Originally Posted by anb Even though he is a good driver, I have no respect for him. |
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Originally Posted by Vysakh These sentences are more accurate when you replace Hamilton with Schumacher and vice versa. |
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Originally Posted by aim120 Hamilton didn't ask for him to move over, it was team orders which Ferrari is king of. |
In 1994 Ferrari wasn't the team to beat it was Renault and I said Ferrari because it was said that Ferrari had significant influence over FIA. Even in that season FIA tried everything they could to deny Schumacher of the championship and make Hill the champ as a tribute to Senna but they failed.
Now here are some facts about Saint Hamilton:
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Season 2007: The Debut. Ron Dennis signed him to the McLaren driver development program at a young age, which would eventually make him the McLaren driver on his F1 debut, that meant he never had to race for weaker teams in his career, there was no struggle.
In the debut season he finished 2nd in the championship thanks to the spy-gate scandal, alongside team mate Alonso. Team McLaren were absolutely dedicated towards Hamilton and Hamilton's arrogance towards the former F1 World Champion was disrespectful and condemnable but team did nothing to discipline him.
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Season 2008: The undeserving Champion.
His first world championship in 2008 was courtesy of Toyota's Glock who deliberately handed him the 5th place in the Brazilian GP, denying Massa from a truly well deserved world championship. No true F1 fan can forget that day. Massa was robbed of his championship, period. I would never ever respect Hamilton after that.
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Season 2009: End of Spy-gate advantage, Hello Lie-gate.
After the McLaren infamous spy-gate scandal which made them a strong team in the season 2007 and 2008, the 2009 season showed their true worth and how ordinary the team and the drivers were. Hamilton finished 5th also adding the Lie-gate scandal to his resume in the process. Though his performance was better than teammate Kovalainen who got the stepmotherly treatment by the team McLaren, the Hamilton's family. Button won the championship in Brawn GP closely followed by the Vettel in Redbull, 3rd was Barrichello in Brawn GP and Vettel's team mate Webber was 4th.
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The 2010 Season: The Test. This season again proved how ordinary Hamilton is as he finished 4th just 26 points ahead of team mate Button. Vettel became the youngest ever F1 champion in his RBR Renault, 2nd was Alonso in Ferrari only 4 points behind and Vettel's team mate Webber finished 3rd.
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Season 2011: Who stole my Talent?
Hamilton was outclassed by his team mate Button who finished 2nd with 270 points and Hamilton finished 5th with 227 points, racing for the team that was his family, the McLaren, the team who overlooked the champion like Alonso for the love of Hamilton. Great achievement by Button. Hamilton's car had a magnetic attraction to Massa and Maldonado, also he felt the stewards had called him to see them 5 times in 6 races was because "maybe it's because I'm black, I don't know" said Hamilton.
Vettel finished 1st again with 392 points and his team mate Webber finished 3rd with 258 points.
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Season 2012: The jealous Noob.
In the Belgian GP Button claimed pole while Hamilton only qualified 8th. But he had to blame it on someone else, so he blamed the decision to use a different rear wing to his teammate. Tweeting a picture of the telemetry, which revealed sensitive McLaren data, such as ride heights as well as braking and acceleration rates. Though he deleted the tweet, McLaren did not discipline Hamilton. Meanwhile a "disappointed" Button pointed out the rear wing should have helped Hamilton make up for the straight-line deficit through Spa's corners. Another instance to prove how much Hamilton was favoured in the team, and the stepmotherly treatment of his teammates.
Even with all the special love and support Hamilton was able to finish ahead of his team mate by just 2 points, Button was brilliant but finished 5th. Vettel had a phenomenal season again and became the champion in RBR Renault, Alonso finished 2nd for Ferrari and Vettel's team mate Webber could only manage 6th position.
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Season 2013: The Betrayal.
Hamilton had enough of McLaren love and care and started looking for greener pastures. Enter Mercedes. He finished 4th while team mate Rosberg finished 6th just 18 points behind him. Vettel dominated the season becoming the champion yet again with 397 points, Alonso was second again with 242 points while Vettel's team mate Webber finished 3rd with 199 points. McLaren's Button and Perez finished 9th and 11th respectively.
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Season 2014: Enter V6 Turbo-Hybrid and the maFIA The introduction of the V6 turbo hybrid made the Mercedes the most dominant team in F1 history and ever since 2014 their dominance has been absolute.
It was an easy Mercedes 1-2, and Hamilton won his second Championship, Rosberg finished second. While William's Bottas finished an impressive 4th and his teammate Massa was 7th.
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Season 2015: Boring:
Yet another Mercedes dominated season. With Hamilton finishing 1st winning his boring 3rd Champion and teammate Rosberg finishing 2nd. William's Bottas was 5th again ahead of teammate Massa who finished 6th.
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Season 2016: Rebel Rosberg.
All Hamilton fans must watch the Abu Dhabi GP and see how fair Hamilton is in reality. One of the few exciting races of the season even though it was the usual Mercedes 1-2.
Meanwhile Bottas finished 8th yet again ahead of teammate Massa who finished 11.
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Season 2017: Vettel's brilliance.
This season could only be remembered for the incredible fight Vettel put forth against the dominant Mercedes. He was very very unlucky as well. An exciting season? Maybe but it was dominated by Mercedes and the new kid on the team, Bottas could only managed 3rd thanks to the team who wanted only Hamilton to win.
Hamilton was gifted the championship by the team with 363 points, Bottas followed ever order obediently and finished 3rd with 305 points and Vettel finishing 2nd with 317 points while his teammate Kimi finished 4th with 205 points.
This is the same Bottas who outclassed Massa for 3 straight years.
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Season 2018: Bottas bottoms out.
Bottas was sacrificed yet again for Hamilton, though this time the punishment he took was more brutal.
Bottas just the 3rd driver in 21st century to go winless across a season in a championship winning car.
Team boss Toto Wolff admitted Bottas could be mentally damaged by a campaign he said turned "to shit".
Brawn said "the only slight flaw, if there can be one in a season like this, was the performance of Valtteri Bottas, who had a difficult season, plagued by bad luck. Valtteri had some opportunities to win, but either through misfortune, as in Baku, or due to the occasional, understandable, decision by the team to maximize the result for the benefit of both championships he didn't manage it. The result (was) that he seemed rather out of sorts by the end of the campaign."
I truly feel sorry for Bottas, such incredible talent and all wasted by the team politics. Shame on Mercedes and Hamilton.
To conclude, Hamilton won yet again in the ever so dominant Mercedes with Ferrari's Vettel and Kimi Raikkonen finishing 2nd and 3rd again, Bottas was used as a tool to let Hamilton win races yet again.
Season 2019 is nothing new.
Hamilton was in the right team at the right time and had the right connections. There is nothing special with Hamilton even Kubica would have won these 5 Championships with Mercedes if he was in place of Hamilton, it's the team that takes the credit in this case and not the talent.
Hamilton has been outclassed by his teammates many times, he has cheated, has been facilitated, favoured, pampered and what not. He will only win in the 'right' circumstances but never when the odds are not in his favor, like in the German GP this year. He isn't a legend, never will be.