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Old 10th October 2022, 12:49   #1
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2022 Formula 1 Japanese Grand Prix | Suzuka | 07 - 09 October

Surprised to not find a thread on the Japanese GP, guess BHPian Scarlet_Rider who usually creates a thread for all races gave up or found the season to be boring.

To put it in short: What a farce of a show was put on by the FIA at Suzuka, with no authoritative decision-making, a very harsh penalty for Charles Leclerc and we almost had a repeat of the Jules Bianchi accident.

Having been following F1 since '07, FIA and their group of so-called "stewards" are taking the sport down race by race.
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Old 10th October 2022, 13:23   #2
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Surprised to not find a thread on the Japanese GP, guess BHPian Scarlet_Rider who usually creates a thread for all races gave up or found the season to be boring.
Haha, not bored but was travelling during the weekend, hence could not start the thread.

Congratulations to Max Verstappen on championship # 2!
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re: 2022 Formula 1 Japanese Grand Prix | Suzuka | 07 - 09 October

Hats off to the drivers. I wonder how did they manage to see anything beyond that water spray from the cars in front.

And what were RedBulls on yesterday? Both Verstappen and Perez were substantially faster than Charles who seemed to be struggling biiiig time on intermediates.
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Re: 2022 Formula 1 Japanese Grand Prix | Suzuka | 07 - 09 October

What a boring yet exciting race

- Turn 1 move by Max on the outside was solid.
- Vettel got spun, Stroll rocketed past the grid.
- Sainz crash. Nothing he could do to avoid it.
- The whole Tractor on the track fiasco! Listening to the commentary, was even more shocking where the blame was being placed on Gasly! At one point, Karun Chandok was the only one talking sense and calling out FIA for the blunder. Sainz on board even showed a Marshall trying to move the car as Gasly passed by. All the drivers enraged and rightly so. BTW, Gasly has been given a drive-through penalty and given penalty points on his Super Licence for the incident.
- The painstakingly long wait before the restart.
- Lots of action in the mid field once the race started. Vettel and Latifi gambling to switch early on Inters which paid off royally at the end.
- Mick Schumacher led a race! Albeit for just for a few meters, but still. Was worth the gamble. A safety car at that time would've been very interesting.
- Merc goof up with the double stacking was unpleasant. Russel suffered because of that.
- Ocon finally defending like a lion and succeeding in keeping Lewis at bay. Quite a few close calls at 130R.
- Max was just flying into the distance. Created a 28 second lead in 29 laps! Guess there was nothing stopping him.
- Charles drove brilliantly considering the heavy degradation on his tyres (Check the image at the bottom). The Ferrari is fast, but it sure is ruthless on tyres. Checo managed his tyres well throughout as he always does. The last lap battle was exciting. Too bad Charles couldn't avoid making the error. The penalty was fair, even he said it himself. He could've given the place and fought for it on the next lap, but the race ended, so the penalty was the only way.
- Not much footage on Vettel vs Alonso last lap battle. Apparently Vettel thought the race was over, but then realised there was one more lap to go. Quite a close finish there.
- Max and Red Bull have had a brilliant season. They've not only improved the car over the course of the season, but Max has made sure he got the most out of it. A well deserved championship.

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Old 10th October 2022, 21:30   #5
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Re: 2022 Formula 1 Japanese Grand Prix | Suzuka | 07 - 09 October

FIA Statement on the F1 Japanese Grand Prix

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While it is normal practice to recover cars under Safety Car and Red Flag conditions, due to the particular circumstances and also taking into account feedback from of a number of drivers, the FIA has launched a thorough review of the events involving the deployment of recovery vehicles during the Japanese Grand Prix. This is part of the common practice of analysis of all race incidents to ensure continual improvements of processes and procedures.
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Re: 2022 Formula 1 Japanese Grand Prix | Suzuka | 07 - 09 October

What a boring race (for the section that was washed out) and yet what a brilliant & fun race (for the last ~1 hour of racing). My heart goes out to Hamilton for not being able to overtake Ocon - he tried so hard. And it's a pity they weren't able to showcase the ending part of the last lap of Alonso & Vettel; apparently they both crossed the finish line almost at the same time; with a difference of only 0.011s.



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a very harsh penalty for Charles Leclerc and we almost had a repeat of the Jules Bianchi accident.
No, that was valid and following the practice. If there had been more laps or even a longer part of the last lap to follow that turn, Charles would have been immediately informed/ordered on radio to give the place to Checko. That's always the practice for such incidents in the past. Given that wasn't possible here, the penalty was valid and even accepted by Charles as appropriate.

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And what were RedBulls on yesterday? Both Verstappen and Perez were substantially faster than Charles who seemed to be struggling biiiig time on intermediates.
Charles's after race comments are worth listening to - that man talks sense and logical. He repeated his earlier comment (made during a previous grand prix) of how the tires on his Ferrari start degrading faster than as compared to the Red Bull's tires. Visible proof in @Omkar's post.

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Re: 2022 Formula 1 Japanese Grand Prix | Suzuka | 07 - 09 October

FIA to implement procedural measures based on the findings of the review into incidents at the 2022 Japanese Grand Prix

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Thorough review overseen by FIA Deputy President for Sport Robert Reid.

Findings based on the FIA’s critical reflection process, feedback from the GPDA and drivers including George Russell and Pierre Gasly.

A number of measures have been adopted as a result of the findings.

The findings of a far-reaching FIA review of incidents at the 2022 Japanese Grand Prix at Suzuka Circuit have determined that a number of procedural recommendations will be implemented.

The review is based on the FIA’s critical reflection process, a letter from the Grand Prix Drivers’ Association and discussions between the FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem and a number of drivers including George Russell, GPDA Director, and AlphaTauri’s Pierre Gasly who expressed their concerns over the on-track incidents during the severely rain-affected race at Suzuka.

From an operational standpoint, the review was originated by the FIA Remote Operations Centre (ROC) in Geneva immediately after a series of incidents on lap two of the Grand Prix. The ROC, introduced for the 2022 season, provides support on procedural, sporting and regulatory matters to Race Control during race weekends.

The review panel comprised representatives from a number of FIA departments including Race Control, ROC, Safety, Operations and Technical. The process was overseen by FIA Deputy President for Sport Robert Reid, who was in attendance in Suzuka.

The ROC has recreated a full timeline of the incidents from video and data capture.

The wet track conditions and driver visibility were taken into account by Race Control staff from Suzuka together with the ROC in reaching their conclusions. A lengthy study of video footage and Race Control telemetry and ROC data was undertaken.

Driver behaviour and the performance of circuit marshals and recovery vehicle operators was also evaluated. The conclusions of the review has led to the adoption of a number of measures for the future.

The FIA is committed to constant improvement and analysis so that situations such as that which occurred in Suzuka can be avoided or at least safely mitigated.

Race start

Although it was raining, conditions were suitable enough to start the Race from a standing start on time. All teams started on intermediate tyres following reconnaissance laps to the grid, but heavier rain around the time of the start meant that car control on intermediate tyres after the start was more challenging.

Deployment of recovery vehicles and marshals

The review concluded that all FIA race procedures were followed. After the incident involving the Ferrari of Carlos Sainz at Turn 12, the track was neutralised with the Safety Car before marshals and recovery vehicles were deployed on track.

The review noted that in such conditions, a recovery vehicle should not be deployed unless all cars are aligned behind the Safety Car. Furthermore, marshals and recovery equipment would only be deployed whilst cars are on track (Safety Car periods) when the weather conditions and location of the cars to be recovered allow for a quick and safe intervention.

Given the track conditions and the overall visibility for drivers, marshals and recovery staff at the time, initially under a Safety Car followed by a Red Flag, and as efforts were focused on safe recovery, the AlphaTauri of Pierre Gasly in the Pit Lane was not immediately detected.

Race Control do not necessarily monitor all cars that may pit during Safety Car periods as they are more concerned about any area containing an incident and neutralising the field behind the Safety Car.

After his Pit Stop, Gasly rejoined the track and drove to his Safety Car delta time in an effort to catch the pack. When he reached the incident in Turn 12 for the second time, marshals were working with a crane on track.

Even though it is common practice to deploy recovery vehicles once a race has been neutralised, the review panel discussed whether the entry of the recovery vehicle at Suzuka to retrieve the stricken Ferrari of Carlos Sainz was premature given the prevailing conditions.

The review panel acknowledged that having recovery cranes on track at Suzuka during the weather conditions is a sensitive matter in view of the tragic incidents of the past. The panel determined that in hindsight, as the weather conditions were changing, it would have been prudent to have delayed the deployment of the recovery vehicles on track.

It was acknowledged that every effort should be made to perform an efficient and safe recovery of cars. A longer recovery period, in conditions such as those which prevailed in Suzuka, may result in a race suspension.

It was also acknowledged that while the Safety Car is used to neutralise a race, the FIA has control over the cars directly behind the Safety Car, but it does not have sufficient control over the cars that are elsewhere around the track.

Drivers’ obligations

It was also acknowledged that in accordance with the applicable regulations, drivers have an obligation to limit their speed accordingly under Yellow Flag, Safety Car and Red Flag conditions. The drivers are further obliged to apply common sense at all times.

In the case of Gasly, data showed that in an effort to close the delta time to the Safety Car he had been travelling at speeds which exceeded 200 km/h before the scene of the Sainz incident – and after passing the stricken Ferrari of Sainz under a Red Flag. It should be noted that after the event he expressed his regret during a Stewards hearing which resulted in a penalty.

Tyres

The performance of the current wet weather tyres in extreme conditions was discussed. Analysis of tyre performance in wet weather conditions is ongoing between the FIA Technical Department and the official tyre manufacturer.

Advertising on track barriers

The issue of the fixing of Advertising boards, their construction, location and materials is constantly under review by the Circuit Commission.

Drainage

Discussion is ongoing between the FIA and the circuit organisers on circuit drainage improvements at Suzuka Circuit.

JAPANESE GRAND PRIX REVIEW FINDINGS: MEASURES TO BE IMPLEMENTED

As a result of the findings, as of the next race – the United States Grand Prix, the following measures will be implemented:

Information to be provided to the Teams by means of a message via the official messaging system and communicated via the FIA intercom system to notify teams that a recovery vehicle is on track with the obligation from the Teams to inform their Drivers.
Development of a live VSC/SC monitoring window to display the status of all cars, on track, behind SC, in PITS to be used by Race Control and the ROC.
Race Control Procedure Update to better define the allocation of tasks across the Race Control team (including delegation of monitoring tasks to ROC as required) under SC or VSC procedure. In specific relation to this review, the delegation of monitoring of cars entering the Pit Lane under SC conditions and the consequent length of the SC train.
The FIA Race Director will hold a review of the incidents in Suzuka during the United States Grand Prix Drivers’ Briefing to explain what solutions the FIA plans to introduce to avoid a repeat of the situation in the future and to remind the Drivers of the rules relating to Safety Cars and Red Flags.
In conjunction with the teams, a review of penalty precedents for drivers not respecting the rules relating to Yellow, Double Yellow, VSC and SC conditions will take place.
Assessment of the current application of advertising boards, their construction, location and materials used to avoid the potential for them to being torn off and thrown on track.
Dynamic VSC: implementation of a new function that would change the delta speed required for the driver to follow before and in the sectors where there is an incident, this would aid the drivers to know where incidents have been declared (to be implemented by the start of the 2023 season).
In addition to the points above, the FIA will also undertake the following actions.

Race Control Structure

For the remaining races of the 2022 Formula 1 season, the FIA will not use the system of rotating the role of Race Director. From the United States Grand Prix in Austin and the following races in Mexico, Brazil and Abu Dhabi, Niels Wittich will assume the position of Race Director with the support of Race Control staff.

Race time limit and points distribution

At the Japanese Grand Prix, Article 6.5 of the Formula 1 Sporting Regulations which covers race time limit and points distribution was applied correctly. However, the wording of the Regulations will be revisited with a view to bringing further clarity during the next review of the Sporting Regulations.
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