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Originally Posted by akash_v12 VCARB might as well bring in Hadjar from F2. Seems like quite a promising talent to me, and I don't see them promoting anyone else as of now. |
Great call! I was a bit skeptical about Hadjar getting the nod, but it seems that RB/Redbull are slowly but surely reverting to the older tried-and-tested model of youngsters getting their shot with the B team, and then either getting kicked out or promoted, a rule that they ignored after their experiences with Gasly and Albon.
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Originally Posted by Chetan_Rao Left field idea. Red Bull should put Hulkenberg in the second car. Solid and consistent without being spectacular, pretty much made-to-order for what they need. |
This is actually a great idea, but the timing is all wrong. Hulkenberg should have got the drive instead of Perez in the first place, and I believe he'd have achieved way more than the Mexican, with Redbull. Makes little sense to bring in a near geriatric stable driver into Redbull now. They need somebody who can be consistently fast, and has the years and the ability to learn and improve while driving alongside Max and hopefully don the leader's role when Max bails for a more promising team, or just hangs up his boots after getting bored. This was the main reason why they were so interested, at least initially, in Colapinto, till his later mistakes led them to believe that he was still at least a season away from being a reliable driver.
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Originally Posted by mayankk The debt is paid, and goodbye Checo.
To what lengths are Hornr and Marko willing to go, to avoid putting anyone even half competitive in the RB seat? Even further to not put Tsunoda there?
At one point this year, the drivers market was so ripe to even take on Sainz. But no. |
Sainz won't be the number 2 that Perez was willing to be, before he slipped all the way down the order, so Sainz is out. Tsunoda isn't just about the Honda politics; he's done plenty to show people that he's outright unstable. Not sure if you watched the race in which Tsunoda almost crashed into Ricciardo, post race, just because he was pissed off. He came so close to writing off both cars, and it wasn't even while racing! Any driver who is that unstable will always be a liability. Franz Tost is the man who really had faith in Tsunoda, but at the end of the day, Tsunoda is too much of a man-child to be taken seriously, despite being fast. He's good, but not great, and the fact that he's unstable just makes him a non-option.
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Originally Posted by StarrySky
So I don't think RedBull themselves really believe Liam Lawson is an incredible talent. He is in the RedBull because (a) Ricciardo, who they originally brought in as back-up for Perez did not rise to expectations and (b) for some reason (maybe the Honda connection), they don't want to put Tsunoda in the RedBull. |
Bingo. They really hoped that Ricciardo would rise up, but if you ask me, they should have taken a punt on him and put him into the Redbull directly after his famous test that he did so well in. Nobody will now ever know how that might have panned out, but he certainly didn't do well in the RB. As for Tsunoda, it's hardly "some reason". Check out my response above; he's a liability. Redbull don't care to play the role that Franz Tost did when it comes to molly-coddling and being a shrink+father-figure to the unstable Tsunoda. He's made a lot of progress for sure, but he's still a liability.
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Originally Posted by Thalla It doesn't seem fair that Yuki wasn't considered as Checo's replacement at Red Bull. He was certainly more deserving driver than Liam to get this seat. |
This is not about deserving. It's about who can deliver and be reliable. Yuki has been there for so long and is only now coming to grips, and he's still not clear where to attack and where not to. His skirmish with Piastri in a race this year was both hilarious and sad to watch; Tsunoda had a tire advantage and was clearly faster, but pissed his chances goodbye by picking a wrong place to pass, making contact instead. Liam by contrast has so little race experience, but still held his own, even against Perez, and that spoke far more loudly in his favor than anything Tsunoda has displayed.