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mclaren1885 · 7th October 2005, 18:48

now that kimis had an engine change i bet JPM will give the rest a run for the top step of the podium..expect the flying finn to soar thru the traffic and given the pace of the mclarens he could even salvage a 2nd place..

Deeps · 7th October 2005, 20:12

I would have voted for JPM if even Kimi's engine hadn';t been changed. For some reason even Suzuka is a track that Kimi doesn't do too well on even Coulthard could also match him there. But with the grid penalty, it has to be JPM undoubtedly. Toyota's race pace is still not a great as their qualifying pace and Renault are still significantly behind in terms of pace. So here's my predictions:

1.Montoya
2.Alonso
3.Button/Schumacher

gr8guzzler · 7th October 2005, 20:16

Now that the Kimi is out of contention for the WDC, It would be fun to see both Montoya & Kimi fight it out. I just hope they don't ruin each others race and finish strongly so that McLaren increases the lead for the Constructors Championship.

I predict a win for Montoya....Kimi in second and Alonso in Third position.

Cheers!!!

sridhar24 · 7th October 2005, 22:16

As Deeps said traditionally both Kimi and Monty both didn't do well at Suzuka and the most successful driver till now is Schumi. So if it rains Schumi even has a chance to win or atleast I pridict him to be on the podium.

gr8guzzler · 7th October 2005, 22:39

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Originally Posted by sridhar24

As Deeps said traditionally both Kimi and Monty both didn't do well at Suzuka and the most successful driver till now is Schumi. So if it rains Schumi even has a chance to win or atleast I pridict him to be on the podium.

Get real....schumi has no chance rain or no rain....the ferrari just isn't good enough this year....

karthik247 · 7th October 2005, 23:16

Yea schumi is doin really bad..not just him but Ferrari. Hope get come back really strong next year

Dippy · 8th October 2005, 11:44

A wet qualifyng and pole for Ralf. Things were really bad for the last five runners putting them at the bottom half of the grid. I think it was a good move by Montoya to go back to the pits. I was hoping Kimi would too since he had a penalty. However the woes of everyone else put Narin at a higher grid position.

Rain is predicted for the race tomorrow as well so the battle for the constructors should be intersting

Dippy

Deeps · 8th October 2005, 13:43

Now that Mclarens are Alonso are way at the back and realistically out of contention for the win especially since storm is predicted for race-day, I am looking forwrd to a fight between Honda and Toyota. And i think Ralf will be no match for Button. So could we actually see BAR getting their first win in this disastorous season? Only time will tell. And only time will tell if our man can make a decent points finish.

Deeps · 8th October 2005, 13:45

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Originally Posted by sridhar24

As Deeps said traditionally both Kimi and Monty both didn't do well at Suzuka and the most successful driver till now is Schumi. So if it rains Schumi even has a chance to win or atleast I pridict him to be on the podium.

, actually i said that Kimi doesn;t do well at Suzuka for some reason...not Montoya as well. Monty was going on to win in 2003 until he had to retire because of technical problems.

sridhar24 · 8th October 2005, 15:08

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Originally Posted by Deeps

I am looking forwrd to a fight between Honda and Toyota. And i think Ralf will be no match for Button. So could we actually see BAR getting their first win in this disastorous season? Only time will tell.

I predict it could be Fisichella winning this time if not Ralf Schumacher. I don't think Button is capable of winning and I would say Button will be no match for Ralf but only the race will prove it. Mclaren don't have a chance of winning this time and Renault have the advantage with Fisi in 3rd place. This race will be interesting.

Sid Schumacher · 8th October 2005, 15:16

Its high time we got to see some Michael Magic...and what better occasion than a wet track?....the chances for all the poll options seems to be the same ...but I would favour Michael(naturally...its in my name)

gr8guzzler · 9th October 2005, 12:11

Woooooooah!!! what a race.....

Gr8 driving from Kimi and Alonso. Simply the best drivers this season, feel really sad for Montoya his bad luck continues and of course for Fisi, poor chap...

Can't wait for Shanghai now.....

Steeroid · 9th October 2005, 12:18

Great race. However, it looks like McLaren have the same performance advantage over other teams that Ferrari had a couple of years back. Obviously Ron Dennis wont be whining about unfair advantages anymore. I wonder if F1/FIA will come up with rules to nullify their advantage next year...if you look at Fisichella v/s Kimi in the last few rounds, you could make out that the Renault had NO chance. The Minardi only made things easier - the McLaren would have gone through anyway.

Dippy · 9th October 2005, 12:22

What a race!!! This was by far the best race of the season. Not a single dull moment. So much overtaking and awesome racing by Kimi to take the lead on the very last lap. That guy was on fire. Renault has taken the lead in the constructors but that will make the Chinese GP all the more exciting and worth waiting for

Dippy

sridhar24 · 9th October 2005, 13:57

This was the most exciting race in whole of the 2005 season, what fantastic drive by Fernando and Kimi and those overtakings were amazing especially Alonso on MS. Alonso has proved everyone wrong who said he can't drive fast. MS was pushing very hard in Ferrari but it was no match for both Mclaren and Renault. I think if Alonso had no problems with the gear selecton he could have been even closer to kimi. Fisi on the otherhand didn't take advantage of his lead at all and didn't push at all compared to Fernando and this race showed Fisi is no match for alonso in the same car. Iam sure Flavio won't be happy about this.
Iam looking forward for the next race and hope it will be as exciting as this.

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7th October 2005, 18:48	#151
mclaren1885 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore (the city of modded cars) !! Posts: 4,820 Thanked: 45 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (10)	now that kimis had an engine change i bet JPM will give the rest a run for the top step of the podium..expect the flying finn to soar thru the traffic and given the pace of the mclarens he could even salvage a 2nd place..
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7th October 2005, 20:12	#152
Deeps Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Delhi/Noida Posts: 1,116 Thanked: 170 Times	I would have voted for JPM if even Kimi's engine hadn';t been changed. For some reason even Suzuka is a track that Kimi doesn't do too well on even Coulthard could also match him there. But with the grid penalty, it has to be JPM undoubtedly. Toyota's race pace is still not a great as their qualifying pace and Renault are still significantly behind in terms of pace. So here's my predictions: 1.Montoya 2.Alonso 3.Button/Schumacher
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7th October 2005, 20:16	#153
gr8guzzler BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 653 Thanked: 87 Times View My Garage	Montoya Now that the Kimi is out of contention for the WDC, It would be fun to see both Montoya & Kimi fight it out. I just hope they don't ruin each others race and finish strongly so that McLaren increases the lead for the Constructors Championship. I predict a win for Montoya....Kimi in second and Alonso in Third position. Cheers!!!
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7th October 2005, 22:16	#154
sridhar24 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 1,046 Thanked: 88 Times	As Deeps said traditionally both Kimi and Monty both didn't do well at Suzuka and the most successful driver till now is Schumi. So if it rains Schumi even has a chance to win or atleast I pridict him to be on the podium.
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7th October 2005, 23:16	#156
karthik247 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR, HYD Posts: 2,710 Thanked: 30 Times	Yea schumi is doin really bad..not just him but Ferrari. Hope get come back really strong next year
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8th October 2005, 11:44	#157
Dippy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,561 Thanked: 2,464 Times	A wet qualifyng and pole for Ralf. Things were really bad for the last five runners putting them at the bottom half of the grid. I think it was a good move by Montoya to go back to the pits. I was hoping Kimi would too since he had a penalty. However the woes of everyone else put Narin at a higher grid position. Rain is predicted for the race tomorrow as well so the battle for the constructors should be intersting Dippy
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8th October 2005, 13:43	#158
Deeps Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Delhi/Noida Posts: 1,116 Thanked: 170 Times	Now that Mclarens are Alonso are way at the back and realistically out of contention for the win especially since storm is predicted for race-day, I am looking forwrd to a fight between Honda and Toyota. And i think Ralf will be no match for Button. So could we actually see BAR getting their first win in this disastorous season? Only time will tell. And only time will tell if our man can make a decent points finish.
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8th October 2005, 15:16	#161
Sid Schumacher BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 262 Thanked: 3 Times	Its high time we got to see some Michael Magic...and what better occasion than a wet track?....the chances for all the poll options seems to be the same ...but I would favour Michael(naturally...its in my name)
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9th October 2005, 12:11	#162
gr8guzzler BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 653 Thanked: 87 Times View My Garage	Woooooooah!!! what a race..... Gr8 driving from Kimi and Alonso. Simply the best drivers this season, feel really sad for Montoya his bad luck continues and of course for Fisi, poor chap... Can't wait for Shanghai now.....
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9th October 2005, 12:18	#163
Steeroid Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: N.A Posts: 7,046 Thanked: 2,751 Times	Great race. However, it looks like McLaren have the same performance advantage over other teams that Ferrari had a couple of years back. Obviously Ron Dennis wont be whining about unfair advantages anymore. I wonder if F1/FIA will come up with rules to nullify their advantage next year...if you look at Fisichella v/s Kimi in the last few rounds, you could make out that the Renault had NO chance. The Minardi only made things easier - the McLaren would have gone through anyway.
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9th October 2005, 12:22	#164
Dippy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,561 Thanked: 2,464 Times	What a race!!! This was by far the best race of the season. Not a single dull moment. So much overtaking and awesome racing by Kimi to take the lead on the very last lap. That guy was on fire. Renault has taken the lead in the constructors but that will make the Chinese GP all the more exciting and worth waiting for Dippy
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9th October 2005, 13:57	#165
sridhar24 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 1,046 Thanked: 88 Times	This was the most exciting race in whole of the 2005 season, what fantastic drive by Fernando and Kimi and those overtakings were amazing especially Alonso on MS. Alonso has proved everyone wrong who said he can't drive fast. MS was pushing very hard in Ferrari but it was no match for both Mclaren and Renault. I think if Alonso had no problems with the gear selecton he could have been even closer to kimi. Fisi on the otherhand didn't take advantage of his lead at all and didn't push at all compared to Fernando and this race showed Fisi is no match for alonso in the same car. Iam sure Flavio won't be happy about this. Iam looking forward for the next race and hope it will be as exciting as this.
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