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danlalan · 8th July 2007, 20:08

Awesome race....However wht got me wondering was that shakehand with ferrari engineer from alonso and also during the last podium stand did u see where Alonso was standing next to the ferrari guy.....does this suggest something...????? Move over massa here comes Alonso..???

merve_extreme · 8th July 2007, 20:10

I wont read much into it.

paras211 · 8th July 2007, 20:28

dont think alonso should be invited to ferrari and then accuse them that they dont want him to won the championship cozz ........

amitverma · 8th July 2007, 21:12

amazing race. as someone already said, kimi is in a mood for payback.
the race was won by ferrari's pit strategy and kimi's awesome 3 laps before his first pitstop. the strategy flawless. kimi started applying pressure on hamilton only a couple of laps before hamilton had to pit. this made his inlaps a lot slower due to defensive driving. and coupled to the scorchers by Kimi, Ferrari knew they had it in their kitty.
what was evident was that Hamilton was running on a low fuel load to get pole in this GP. alonso on the other hand was heavier, which allowed him that 6.1s first pitstop. it was hamilton's mistake all the way. letting emotion ruin the race. still on the podium, though, nonetheless.

Massa's drive deserves a very special mention, he had gained 11 positions within 9 laps of the race. brilliant driving.

amitverma · 8th July 2007, 21:14

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Originally Posted by merve_extreme

He was clearly short fueled by Mclaren.his stop was 5.6 secs vs 9.0 secs for Kimi,even though he stopped only 2 laps later.

i think it was a 6.1s stop for alonso.

merve_extreme · 8th July 2007, 21:18

1st was 5.6 or 6 secs and second was 8.xx secs.Dont remember exactly.

though total pit times were(including pitlane limiter)

1st Stop
Kimi 26.975 secs Lap 18
Alonso 24.065 secs Lap 20
Difference 2.91 secs

2nd stop
Kimi 24.181 secs Lap 43
Alonso 25.923 secs Lap 37
Difference 1.72 secs

snaronikar · 8th July 2007, 21:23

I would have wished Hamilton make up to the first finish though this was his home turf....But Ferrari was simply superb today.

finneyp · 8th July 2007, 21:38

Kudos to Ferrari for their excellent pit-stop strategy and Kimi pushing the Car to the limits to win the race!

esteem_lover · 8th July 2007, 21:40

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Originally Posted by nitrous

MASSA!!!
The dude started at P22 and goes to 5th. He climbed 9 positions in the first 5 laps.Love that spirit to never say DIE!
Kimi's fantastic strategy and driving was awesome.

Bad day for Hamster, i guess.

Good race, nitrous, i watched a little bit between 24 & 44 laps, i think. Beginning to enjoy it.

speedzak · 8th July 2007, 22:41

Ferrari was superb today! And great strategy for Kimi.
But it was 2 Mclaren on the Poidium today and I loved it.

paras211 · 9th July 2007, 00:24

what went wrong with massa's car ? just bad luck with that for ferrari
great driving by massa and kimi

MaserQ · 9th July 2007, 01:21

well well, all of a sudden the 'what-happened-to-kimi' brigade seem to have gone quiet..well, atleast for now

good to see kimi and alonso back on form. Hamilton did make a few minor mistakes under pressure, but then again..9th consecutive podium. That is the sort of consistency that won Alonso the title last year.

For me, the season is just revvving up...

merve_extreme · 9th July 2007, 01:53

Massa was heavier than Kimi and i think he had the pace to challenge kimi for the win.But that's if's and but's and i dont want to enter that argument.

manson · 9th July 2007, 12:01

Kimi impresses, great drive by Massa, good day for Ferrari besides the start line drama, and just about a normal day for Mclaren in the 2007 season.

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Originally Posted by MaserQ

well well, all of a sudden the 'what-happened-to-kimi' brigade seem to have gone quiet..

Simply because he has given them a reason to.
Its no different for Kimi, lack of performance attracts critics for just about anyone, anywhere.

manson.

whatcanthisbe · 9th July 2007, 18:59

kimi was good finally grew some BA LLS and is driving like he should... MASSA on the other had WOW ....

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8th July 2007, 20:08	#1951
danlalan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: mumbai,JUHU Posts: 1,636 Thanked: 263 Times View My Garage	Awesome race....However wht got me wondering was that shakehand with ferrari engineer from alonso and also during the last podium stand did u see where Alonso was standing next to the ferrari guy.....does this suggest something...????? Move over massa here comes Alonso..???
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8th July 2007, 20:10	#1952
merve_extreme Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,359 Thanked: 18 Times View My Garage	I wont read much into it.
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8th July 2007, 20:28	#1953
paras211 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 646 Thanked: 108 Times View My Garage	dont think alonso should be invited to ferrari and then accuse them that they dont want him to won the championship cozz ........
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8th July 2007, 21:12	#1954
amitverma BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New Delhi Posts: 426 Thanked: 141 Times	amazing race. as someone already said, kimi is in a mood for payback. the race was won by ferrari's pit strategy and kimi's awesome 3 laps before his first pitstop. the strategy flawless. kimi started applying pressure on hamilton only a couple of laps before hamilton had to pit. this made his inlaps a lot slower due to defensive driving. and coupled to the scorchers by Kimi, Ferrari knew they had it in their kitty. what was evident was that Hamilton was running on a low fuel load to get pole in this GP. alonso on the other hand was heavier, which allowed him that 6.1s first pitstop. it was hamilton's mistake all the way. letting emotion ruin the race. still on the podium, though, nonetheless. Massa's drive deserves a very special mention, he had gained 11 positions within 9 laps of the race. brilliant driving.
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8th July 2007, 21:18	#1956
merve_extreme Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,359 Thanked: 18 Times View My Garage	1st was 5.6 or 6 secs and second was 8.xx secs.Dont remember exactly. though total pit times were(including pitlane limiter) 1st Stop Kimi 26.975 secs Lap 18 Alonso 24.065 secs Lap 20 Difference 2.91 secs 2nd stop Kimi 24.181 secs Lap 43 Alonso 25.923 secs Lap 37 Difference 1.72 secs Last edited by merve_extreme : 8th July 2007 at 21:26.
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8th July 2007, 21:23	#1957
snaronikar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 2,845 Thanked: 29 Times View My Garage	I would have wished Hamilton make up to the first finish though this was his home turf....But Ferrari was simply superb today.
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8th July 2007, 21:38	#1958
finneyp Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,716 Thanked: 319 Times View My Garage	Kudos to Ferrari for their excellent pit-stop strategy and Kimi pushing the Car to the limits to win the race!
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8th July 2007, 22:41	#1960
speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,347 Thanked: 27 Times	Ferrari was superb today! And great strategy for Kimi. But it was 2 Mclaren on the Poidium today and I loved it.
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9th July 2007, 00:24	#1961
paras211 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 646 Thanked: 108 Times View My Garage	what went wrong with massa's car ? just bad luck with that for ferrari great driving by massa and kimi
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9th July 2007, 01:21	#1962
MaserQ Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,196 Thanked: 166 Times	well well, all of a sudden the 'what-happened-to-kimi' brigade seem to have gone quiet..well, atleast for now good to see kimi and alonso back on form. Hamilton did make a few minor mistakes under pressure, but then again..9th consecutive podium. That is the sort of consistency that won Alonso the title last year. For me, the season is just revvving up...
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9th July 2007, 01:53	#1963
merve_extreme Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,359 Thanked: 18 Times View My Garage	Massa was heavier than Kimi and i think he had the pace to challenge kimi for the win.But that's if's and but's and i dont want to enter that argument.
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9th July 2007, 18:59	#1965
whatcanthisbe BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: http://www.wandering-online.com Posts: 499 Thanked: 6 Times	kimi was good finally grew some BA LLS and is driving like he should... MASSA on the other had WOW ....
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