Porsche crashes into Ferrari at Sebring

skoloseven · 26th May 2009, 11:56

Check out this article below which talks about a recent crash at Sebring Raceway in Sebring, Florida. We need to figure out which driver is at fault. It appears as if the Porsche was over taking the Ferrari pack by being greedy during the slow down before a turn. The Porsche then tries to take the inside corner and just at the same time a Ferrari tries to do the same thing.

Article: Porsche crashes into Ferrari at Sebring

Which driver is at fault? Is it the Ferrari's fault for not checking his rear before cutting the corner? Or is it the "greedy" Porsche driver who is trying to over take multiple positions at once?

pranavt · 26th May 2009, 13:03

At the speeds the Porsche driver was going, there was no way he was going to make the corner without running well wide of the apex. Definitely the Porsche driver's fault.

SamtheLeo · 26th May 2009, 13:10

It is not that simple, it is like both drivers are at fault &. Over Speeding is to be blamed here

ac 427 · 26th May 2009, 15:27

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Originally Posted by SamtheLeo

It is not that simple, it is like both drivers are at fault &. Over Speeding is to be blamed here

they are racing, they are bound to be going fast.

It is the porsches fault, ferrari held its drving line, porsche tried to push its way in assuming that ferrari would leave its racing line and let it take its position.

cheers,
ac

skoloseven · 26th May 2009, 23:43

The Ferrari did hold the driving line BUT he could have checked to see if anyone was passing on the inside. Ferrari or Porsche fault, I don't know maybe both. Can anyone tell what model Porsche was being raced? Then maybe we can count the gears and approximate his entry speed and see if he would have made the corner.

kkr2k2 · 27th May 2009, 14:06

That Porsche looks like 911 GT2, but that Ferrari looks like a classic one!!!

skoloseven · 28th May 2009, 08:03

Okay so we have the 911 GT2 Porsche, but what kind of Ferrari is it? Is it the F430?

I would guess the Porsche was going about 45-60 mph through the corner and upon impact. Any other guesses?

pranavt · 28th May 2009, 08:25

It's a Ferrari 360. And at the angle the Porsche was approaching, he was sure to run wide.

f450 · 28th May 2009, 10:17

Porsche was being too aggressive. Can't expect another driver to give you way just because you want it. Ferrari was right to hold his line

skoloseven · 28th May 2009, 12:07

That is a great perspective F450, I have to agree after watching the clip again. The Porsche "expected" the Ferrari to give way which it did not need to do. I read further that the own of the Porsche paid to fix the Ferrari, and all that was wrong was a bent rim! That Ferrari is built strong!

26th May 2009, 11:56	#1
skoloseven BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mumbai-Tampa Posts: 67 Thanked: 0 Times	Porsche crashes into Ferrari at Sebring Check out this article below which talks about a recent crash at Sebring Raceway in Sebring, Florida. We need to figure out which driver is at fault. It appears as if the Porsche was over taking the Ferrari pack by being greedy during the slow down before a turn. The Porsche then tries to take the inside corner and just at the same time a Ferrari tries to do the same thing. Article: Porsche crashes into Ferrari at Sebring Which driver is at fault? Is it the Ferrari's fault for not checking his rear before cutting the corner? Or is it the "greedy" Porsche driver who is trying to over take multiple positions at once?
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26th May 2009, 13:03	#2
pranavt Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,682 Thanked: 641 Times View My Garage	At the speeds the Porsche driver was going, there was no way he was going to make the corner without running well wide of the apex. Definitely the Porsche driver's fault.
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26th May 2009, 13:10	#3
SamtheLeo BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 451 Thanked: 26 Times	It is not that simple, it is like both drivers are at fault &. Over Speeding is to be blamed here
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26th May 2009, 23:43	#5
skoloseven BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mumbai-Tampa Posts: 67 Thanked: 0 Times	The Ferrari did hold the driving line BUT he could have checked to see if anyone was passing on the inside. Ferrari or Porsche fault, I don't know maybe both. Can anyone tell what model Porsche was being raced? Then maybe we can count the gears and approximate his entry speed and see if he would have made the corner.
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27th May 2009, 14:06	#6
kkr2k2 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Melbourne, Hyd Posts: 1,294 Thanked: 66 Times View My Garage	That Porsche looks like 911 GT2, but that Ferrari looks like a classic one!!!
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28th May 2009, 08:03	#7
skoloseven BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mumbai-Tampa Posts: 67 Thanked: 0 Times	Okay so we have the 911 GT2 Porsche, but what kind of Ferrari is it? Is it the F430? I would guess the Porsche was going about 45-60 mph through the corner and upon impact. Any other guesses?
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28th May 2009, 08:25	#8
pranavt Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,682 Thanked: 641 Times View My Garage	It's a Ferrari 360. And at the angle the Porsche was approaching, he was sure to run wide.
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28th May 2009, 10:17	#9
f450 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 794 Thanked: 7 Times	Porsche was being too aggressive. Can't expect another driver to give you way just because you want it. Ferrari was right to hold his line
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28th May 2009, 12:07	#10
skoloseven BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mumbai-Tampa Posts: 67 Thanked: 0 Times	That is a great perspective F450, I have to agree after watching the clip again. The Porsche "expected" the Ferrari to give way which it did not need to do. I read further that the own of the Porsche paid to fix the Ferrari, and all that was wrong was a bent rim! That Ferrari is built strong!
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