What next Ferrari? EDIT: Schumi is BACK!! And with Mercedes Benz !!

paranoidAndroid · 31st August 2009, 21:58

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Originally Posted by SilentEngine

He definitely proved a point yesterday. Ferrari better get some sense in their head quickly.

Over 40 odd laps driving a Ferrari with KERS, Kimi could only manage to open a gap of 0.9 odd seconds to Giancarlo's Force India car. And if you watch the sector timings, he was only pulling away in the 1st sector(where he heavily relied on KERS) and losing time in 2nd and 3rd sector.
It was the car and KERS which did most of the work yesterday, not the driver or so methinks.
I think its high time Ferrari replaced him.

Mpower · 31st August 2009, 22:29

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Originally Posted by paranoidAndroid

Over 40 odd laps driving a Ferrari with KERS, Kimi could only manage to open a gap of 0.9 odd seconds to Giancarlo's Force India car.

I think its high time Ferrari replaced him.

The F-I car of Fisi was a pole car that was clearly faster. Kimi's car was only capable of P5 on saturday. Its was Kimi's mastery that he kept the faster car and bay after skilfully overtaking him after the safety car incident when tires are cold.

LandCruiser · 31st August 2009, 23:00

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Originally Posted by paranoidAndroid

Over 40 odd laps driving a Ferrari with KERS, Kimi could only manage to open a gap of 0.9 odd seconds to Giancarlo's Force India car. And if you watch the sector timings, he was only pulling away in the 1st sector(where he heavily relied on KERS) and losing time in 2nd and 3rd sector.
It was the car and KERS which did most of the work yesterday, not the driver or so methinks.
I think its high time Ferrari replaced him.

Give the credit where it is due. FI had a faster car and Kimi had KERS which helped him get ahead. Thereafter he was able to hang in there and defend his position. How does that undermine his performance? Cant undermine the performance of some one stands on the podium as no 1 on a given day.

PAVAN KADAM · 31st August 2009, 23:12

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Originally Posted by LandCruiser

Give the credit where it is due. FI had a faster car and Kimi had KERS which helped him get ahead. Thereafter he was able to hang in there and defend his position. How does that undermine his performance? Cant undermine the performance of some one stands on the podium as no 1 on a given day.

No no no.... Kimi was never faster throughout the race.

He surely would have finished 4th / 5th if not for the advantage he got in the first curve and also because of the KERS during the safety car.

0.9 secs ahead of Force India's Fisi

C'mon kimi.

SilentEngine · 1st September 2009, 02:44

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Originally Posted by paranoidAndroid

Over 40 odd laps driving a Ferrari with KERS, Kimi could only manage to open a gap of 0.9 odd seconds to Giancarlo's Force India car. And if you watch the sector timings, he was only pulling away in the 1st sector(where he heavily relied on KERS) and losing time in 2nd and 3rd sector.
It was the car and KERS which did most of the work yesterday, not the driver or so methinks.
I think its high time Ferrari replaced him.

It doesn't matter if he won by 0.9 seconds or 9 seconds. Point is, he got ahead of Fisi when mattered and stayed there for the rest of the race. His car has KERS for a reason, so if he made some good use of that, what is the problem in that?

gpa · 1st September 2009, 12:18

Guys,

I think its time we changed the title of this thread or get back to the topic.

McLaren Rulez · 1st September 2009, 12:26

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Originally Posted by gpa

Guys,

I think its time we changed the title of this thread or get back to the topic.

Just think of it as "What next Ferrari?" Anything that may happen to Ferrari in the future can be discussed here

gpa · 1st September 2009, 12:29

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Originally Posted by McLaren Rulez

Just think of it as "What next Ferrari?"

Just wish the "Schumi is bACK!! No he's not" bit can be removed as it pains me each time I think of it as I cancelled my tickets to Singapore in disappointment

nitrous · 1st September 2009, 15:27

During the first few races, Ferrari was a bloody joke with the unreliable KERS engine and the bad weight distribution in brought. Everyone scoffed at it.

I think it was 6th or 7th race where the KERS advantage started to show. Both Mclaren and Ferrari cars jumped places at the start. Overtook cars like they didn't exist. And the special yellow button would keep the cars following from thinking about overtaking.

Just two of the teams decide to stick to KERS and they're reaping the benefit now. Nobody forced the other teams to dump KERS.

LandCruiser · 1st September 2009, 16:20

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Originally Posted by PAVAN KADAM

No no no.... Kimi was never faster throughout the race.

He surely would have finished 4th / 5th if not for the advantage he got in the first curve and also because of the KERS during the safety car.

0.9 secs ahead of Force India's Fisi

C'mon kimi.

If some one is not faster how can he stay ahead? Puzzles me and he Fisi is no match to Kimi. There is the car factor as well. FI was a surprise improvisation this week which was good. Everyone has their advantages and disadvantages coming into a race. The 0.9 seconds made the race exciting to watch.

Raajiv · 1st September 2009, 16:55

For all you Massa fans can stop dreaming of Massa's return for the rest of 2009 season.

Ferrari rule out a return for Massa in 2009 | Forumula1.net | F1 News | Formula 1 Forums | Formula One Discussion

SilentEngine · 1st September 2009, 18:56

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Originally Posted by Raajiv

For all you Massa fans can stop dreaming of Massa's return for the rest of 2009 season.

Ferrari rule out a return for Massa in 2009 | Forumula1.net | F1 News | Formula 1 Forums | Formula One Discussion

So no point is sticking with 'LookHow BadYouAre' then. Who is going to be the replacement?

McLaren Rulez · 1st September 2009, 20:19

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Originally Posted by SilentEngine

So no point is sticking with 'LookHow BadYouAre' then.

Lol. Good one! They may let him stay till Monza because its his dream to drive a Ferrari in Italy.

leadf00t · 3rd September 2009, 16:00

MOds: We all looked up for Schumi to return back to F1. however for now the doors are shut.

Can we please lock the thread. the discussion is going no where....

maybe we can reopen the thread when some concrete decision is available on schumi's drive for Ferrari this season.

FERRO · 3rd September 2009, 17:44

don't you guys ever think that Schumi is never going to comeback.
I think that was just a trick to grab attention & Fan following back into F1. Schumi is enjoying his personal life after so many years of competition give him a break.
MODs pls lock this thread no use

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nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	During the first few races, Ferrari was a bloody joke with the unreliable KERS engine and the bad weight distribution in brought. Everyone scoffed at it. I think it was 6th or 7th race where the KERS advantage started to show. Both Mclaren and Ferrari cars jumped places at the start. Overtook cars like they didn't exist. And the special yellow button would keep the cars following from thinking about overtaking. Just two of the teams decide to stick to KERS and they're reaping the benefit now. Nobody forced the other teams to dump KERS.
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leadf00t BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: MH04 Posts: 439 Thanked: 15 Times View My Garage	MOds: We all looked up for Schumi to return back to F1. however for now the doors are shut. Can we please lock the thread. the discussion is going no where.... maybe we can reopen the thread when some concrete decision is available on schumi's drive for Ferrari this season.
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FERRO BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 313 Thanked: 2 Times	don't you guys ever think that Schumi is never going to comeback. I think that was just a trick to grab attention & Fan following back into F1. Schumi is enjoying his personal life after so many years of competition give him a break. MODs pls lock this thread no use
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