Alonso's Singapore GP win being investigated. EDIT: Renault is guilty!

rranjith_kum · 1st September 2009, 15:36

Oh god the hot news is Ecclestone is hinting that Renault will quit from F1 if they are handed over something very severe.

McLaren Rulez · 1st September 2009, 17:19

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Originally Posted by rranjith_kum

Oh god the hot news is Ecclestone is hinting that Renault will quit from F1 if they are handed over something very severe.

That's a stupid comment from Bernie. Either Renault did do something wrong in which case they could easily see a multi season ban (so there's no quitting involved, its them getting thrown out) because this is a very serious violation of the rules and safety of F1. Or they did nothing wrong in which case there will be no punishment. It can't be in between.

McLaren Rulez · 2nd September 2009, 16:44

Massa was the guy that made the FIA investigate? Hmm...

Google Traduction

And its not just Singapore that's under the scanner.

Renault crisis deepens after FIA widens investigation - Motor Racing, Sport - The Independent

gpa · 2nd September 2009, 17:05

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I sometimes wonder whether the F1 bosses have learnt from our Babus and gone crazy!

It can't be put any better!

No point raking up issues from the past. I wonder what will be the outcome of this.

rranjith_kum · 4th September 2009, 23:12

FIA has got some evidence it seems they have summoned Renault for WMC meeting on 21st Sept.

McLaren Rulez · 5th September 2009, 08:52

Yep. Link for anyone who needs it

Renault to face FIA over Singapore charges - Planet-F1 News - from planet-f1.com

Wow, this is huge. Didn't even expect something like this. So now, if Alonso is disqualified, Hamilton will have won the championship comfortably and the whole Glock conspiracy will be irrelevant. And Rosberg might get his first win!

aaggoswami · 5th September 2009, 08:55

Some news. If this news is true, then we can say that sportsmanship is lost in F1. It is different from what Schumacher and Rubens did when they were in Ferrari. Rubens had deliberately slowed down from what I remember to let MS pass by him. Also there were instances when people claimed that why only MS's team mate's car has issues, but this is beyond anything else.

Source :
FIA charges Renault with causing Piquet crash - Worldcarfans

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F1's governing body has charged Renault with conspiring with Nelson Piquet to crash deliberately at the 2008 Singapore grand prix.

Following a tip-off that came to light around the time of last weekend's Belgian GP, the FIA interviewed team members at Spa-Francorchamps and has been carrying out a further investigation in recent days.

Now, representatives of the Enstone based outfit "have been requested to appear before an extraordinary meeting of the FIA World Motor Sport Council in Paris" on 21 September, a statement on Friday confirmed.

The FIA accuses the French team of conspiring with Piquet, ousted by boss and manager Flavio Briatore recently, "to cause a deliberate crash ... with the aim of causing the deployment of the safety car to the advantage of its other driver, Fernando Alonso".

The World Council will decide whether Renault breached Article 151c of the International Sporting Code which relates to "fraudulent conduct" that is against "the interests of motor sport".

Penalties can range from fines to total expulsion from F1.

McLaren Rulez · 5th September 2009, 14:16

Well, as expected, it was Piquet who started the investigation

'Piquet's people ratted out Renault' - Planet-F1 News - from planet-f1.com

route666 · 5th September 2009, 14:39

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Originally Posted by McLaren Rulez

Well, as expected, it was Piquet who started the investigation

'Piquet's people ratted out Renault' - Planet-F1 News - from planet-f1.com

Then they have made a major blunder. Dont you think Piquet Jr will also be under investigation for been a part of this plot???? It can ruin his career.

SilentEngine · 5th September 2009, 15:15

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Originally Posted by route666

Then they have made a major blunder. Dont you think Piquet Jr will also be under investigation for been a part of this plot???? It can ruin his career.

Not exactly, he would have got amnesty from FIA to come out with truth (if at all there is any truth in this story), similar to what happened with Alonso and De La Rosa in 2007

McLaren Rulez · 5th September 2009, 16:52

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Originally Posted by route666

Then they have made a major blunder. Dont you think Piquet Jr will also be under investigation for been a part of this plot???? It can ruin his career.

Career? Since when did he have any chance of restarting his career after such disappointing seasons?

vixz16 · 6th September 2009, 11:55

this is really absurd! they have relaized this afte an year of the RACE!!!

normally_crazy · 6th September 2009, 18:02

Well if this is true - then our Indian Govt has read it correctly - F1 is a business not a sport !

rranjith_kum · 6th September 2009, 18:04

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Originally Posted by vixz16

this is really absurd! they have relaized this afte an year of the RACE!!!

Poor FIA, it seems that Massa realised it immediately. In fact sources claim that he went to Flavio and said that he wanted it to happen.

pypkmsrikanth · 8th September 2009, 12:20

Flavio Briatore is not new to controversies, is he?. The Renault in its earlier avatar of Benetton was possibly one of the most corrupt teams which flouted rules, showed scant regard to human safety in its effort to win. If this incident about Singapore GP is proved right then Flavio has once again flouted rules to win putting his driver at risk.

Fuel rig failures and controversy | The Bite Point

Grand Prix Games - The community place :: F1 :: Mosley and Benetton lawyer collude in 1994 to save Benetton from ban (long post)

1st September 2009, 15:36	#16
rranjith_kum BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Coimbatore/ Aachen Posts: 693 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	Oh god the hot news is Ecclestone is hinting that Renault will quit from F1 if they are handed over something very severe.
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McLaren Rulez Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mysore Posts: 3,390 Thanked: 5,107 Times	Massa was the guy that made the FIA investigate? Hmm... Google Traduction And its not just Singapore that's under the scanner. Renault crisis deepens after FIA widens investigation - Motor Racing, Sport - The Independent Last edited by McLaren Rulez : 2nd September 2009 at 16:52.
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rranjith_kum BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Coimbatore/ Aachen Posts: 693 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	FIA has got some evidence it seems they have summoned Renault for WMC meeting on 21st Sept.
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5th September 2009, 08:52	#21
McLaren Rulez Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mysore Posts: 3,390 Thanked: 5,107 Times	Yep. Link for anyone who needs it Renault to face FIA over Singapore charges - Planet-F1 News - from planet-f1.com Wow, this is huge. Didn't even expect something like this. So now, if Alonso is disqualified, Hamilton will have won the championship comfortably and the whole Glock conspiracy will be irrelevant. And Rosberg might get his first win!
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McLaren Rulez Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mysore Posts: 3,390 Thanked: 5,107 Times	Well, as expected, it was Piquet who started the investigation 'Piquet's people ratted out Renault' - Planet-F1 News - from planet-f1.com
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vixz16 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: indore Posts: 24 Thanked: 3 Times	this is really absurd! they have relaized this afte an year of the RACE!!!
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normally_crazy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,369 Thanked: 528 Times View My Garage	Well if this is true - then our Indian Govt has read it correctly - F1 is a business not a sport !
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8th September 2009, 12:20	#30
pypkmsrikanth Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,124 Thanked: 283 Times View My Garage	Flavio Briatore is not new to controversies, is he?. The Renault in its earlier avatar of Benetton was possibly one of the most corrupt teams which flouted rules, showed scant regard to human safety in its effort to win. If this incident about Singapore GP is proved right then Flavio has once again flouted rules to win putting his driver at risk. Fuel rig failures and controversy \| The Bite Point Grand Prix Games - The community place :: F1 :: Mosley and Benetton lawyer collude in 1994 to save Benetton from ban (long post)
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