ForceIndia F1 Team Release Fisi to Join Ferrari EDIT :Luizzi to Force India

Turbo Head · 4th September 2009, 14:54

This is nice and hilarious indeed.
However lets see how Monza goes without Fisci.

arvindmanju · 4th September 2009, 16:31

As per the History; The last Italian Driver to win at Monza was Ludovico Scarfiotti with Ferrari in 1966.

Lets wait and see how long this might stay.
Ironically it was his First and Last win of his carrer.

McLaren Rulez · 4th September 2009, 16:45

Is he tiny or is the Ferrari cockpit that wide without that aero component thingy that's normally there? He looks so happy in it. That alone should count for about two tenths

kaynmantis · 4th September 2009, 16:51

Fisi is new to KERS. Hope he remembers to press the magic button instead of his race engineer screaming frantically over the radio "Fifi..the button..press the button"

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Seriously I wonder how he'll adapt to the new car. Since testing is banned, he'll have only Friday & Sat to adjust.

Also, Fisi does not have the future ahead of him, unlike Vettel, Hamilton etc. He's reaching the end of the road. This may have put weight to his decision. He has more to think of his retirement plan rather than his career as F1 driver.

kaynmantis · 4th September 2009, 17:18

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Originally Posted by McLaren Rulez

Is he tiny or is the Ferrari cockpit that wide without that aero component thingy that's normally there? He looks so happy in it. That alone should count for about two tenths

Fisi is quiet small. Most race drivers are. Be it MotoGP or F1. Theoratically they have advantage for carrying lesser weight. However skill often outweight the weight disadvantage. Regarding the picture, the cockpit panels have been removed. You must have noticed that after race when drivers come out of the car, they remove the upper panel (over the shoulder) + steering. Also they cannot even wave properly after a win

. Just a small portion of their hands/fist punching through the cockpit. Thats how compact F1 cars are. F1 cockpit are also made to fit the driver. Considering Massa and Fisi, it may not be perfect fit but difference will be small. Kubica who is pretty big will have trouble with Massa's car.

Seems massa is only 5.4 feet and weighs 58 kilos.

naveenroy · 4th September 2009, 18:50

I don't buy the Italian driver, Italian team sentiment that Mallya is espousing. This coming from a man who could not even consider Narain to test drive a Force "India" team car! And considering that at that time, Narain was struggling and looking for a break! BS!

ajmat · 4th September 2009, 18:53

Is it me but isn't Sutil the one who has been closer to the podium and that too very close till Kimi srashes into him.

May be Ferrari have promised not to crach into FI cars as part of the deal

SilentEngine · 4th September 2009, 20:47

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Originally Posted by naveenroy

I don't buy the Italian driver, Italian team sentiment that Mallya is espousing. This coming from a man who could not even consider Narain to test drive a Force "India" team car! And considering that at that time, Narain was struggling and looking for a break! BS!

Mallya just echoed what Ferrari have been saying. Ferrari wanted an Italian driver for Monza, Mallya had one. So that's it. If Ferrari/Fisi didn't play the Italian driver card, Mallya wouldn't have said it.

Narain's case is different. Narain is not in the same league as Fisi. Sutil was already in the team when Mallya bought the team. So he wanted an experienced guy to develop the car, which is what Fisi has been doing. Force India are better off without these 'Indian driver' sentiment. They have done well with their current setup. Indian driver will definitely get a chance whenever there is an Indian driver in same league as the rest.

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Originally Posted by ajmat

Is it me but isn't Sutil the one who has been closer to the podium and that too very close till Kimi srashes into him.

May be Ferrari have promised not to crach into FI cars as part of the deal

I think the deal is to ensure that force india cars stay behind so there is no chance of Ferrari hitting from behind.

14000rpm · 4th September 2009, 20:53

Force India owed Ferrari money for the estranged engine supply deal. can't see why fisi-move couldn't have been the smart move to scrap the debt.

Mpower · 5th September 2009, 01:35

Good move for Ferrari but bad move for Mallaya. He's throwing away what could have possibly the one and only win for Force India. (before the others catch up)

The car is really suited for the hi speed - low downforce tracks like Spa and Monza is similar.

This would have been their best chance for victory. Now its doubtful if Fisi can get used to a new car so quickly. And remember the Ferrari qualified only on P5 in Spa and so its not really a fast car. It was Kimi's mastery that got the win.

McLaren Rulez · 5th September 2009, 14:20

Couldn't resist posting this pic. Look at the painting in the background! Has Alonso, Massa and Kimi

dhrishikesh · 5th September 2009, 16:37

Its definitely not a good for Force India F1 as they don't have any test driver !!
Karun Chandhok will definitely stand a chance here.

KRf1 · 7th September 2009, 16:39

According to latest reports from autosport.com Force India have confirmed Vitantonio Liuzzi as their new driver . This dashes all hopes for an Indian replacement for Fisichella at Force India . Hopefuly this Italian can match Fisi's spa form and speed .
Full story at :autosport.com - F1 News: Force India confirms Liuzzi in second car

4th September 2009, 14:54	#31
Turbo Head BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 322 Thanked: 215 Times	This is nice and hilarious indeed. However lets see how Monza goes without Fisci.
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4th September 2009, 16:31	#32
arvindmanju BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: KA01 Posts: 472 Thanked: 548 Times	As per the History; The last Italian Driver to win at Monza was Ludovico Scarfiotti with Ferrari in 1966. Lets wait and see how long this might stay. Ironically it was his First and Last win of his carrer. Last edited by arvindmanju : 4th September 2009 at 16:37.
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McLaren Rulez Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mysore Posts: 3,390 Thanked: 5,107 Times	Is he tiny or is the Ferrari cockpit that wide without that aero component thingy that's normally there? He looks so happy in it. That alone should count for about two tenths
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4th September 2009, 16:51	#34
kaynmantis BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 191 Thanked: 9 Times	Fisi is new to KERS. Hope he remembers to press the magic button instead of his race engineer screaming frantically over the radio "Fifi..the button..press the button" . Seriously I wonder how he'll adapt to the new car. Since testing is banned, he'll have only Friday & Sat to adjust. Also, Fisi does not have the future ahead of him, unlike Vettel, Hamilton etc. He's reaching the end of the road. This may have put weight to his decision. He has more to think of his retirement plan rather than his career as F1 driver.
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naveenroy Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,511 Thanked: 1,253 Times	I don't buy the Italian driver, Italian team sentiment that Mallya is espousing. This coming from a man who could not even consider Narain to test drive a Force "India" team car! And considering that at that time, Narain was struggling and looking for a break! BS!
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ajmat Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 14,863 Thanked: 27,973 Times View My Garage	Is it me but isn't Sutil the one who has been closer to the podium and that too very close till Kimi srashes into him. May be Ferrari have promised not to crach into FI cars as part of the deal
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14000rpm Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Helsinki Posts: 2,340 Thanked: 5,563 Times View My Garage	Force India owed Ferrari money for the estranged engine supply deal. can't see why fisi-move couldn't have been the smart move to scrap the debt.
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5th September 2009, 01:35	#40
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,730 Times View My Garage	Good move for Ferrari but bad move for Mallaya. He's throwing away what could have possibly the one and only win for Force India. (before the others catch up) The car is really suited for the hi speed - low downforce tracks like Spa and Monza is similar. This would have been their best chance for victory. Now its doubtful if Fisi can get used to a new car so quickly. And remember the Ferrari qualified only on P5 in Spa and so its not really a fast car. It was Kimi's mastery that got the win.
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5th September 2009, 14:20	#41
McLaren Rulez Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mysore Posts: 3,390 Thanked: 5,107 Times	Couldn't resist posting this pic. Look at the painting in the background! Has Alonso, Massa and Kimi
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dhrishikesh BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Mumbai / Pune B Posts: 806 Thanked: 214 Times	Its definitely not a good for Force India F1 as they don't have any test driver !! Karun Chandhok will definitely stand a chance here.
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7th September 2009, 16:39	#43
KRf1 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NCR / BLR Posts: 339 Thanked: 3 Times	Force India confirms Liuzzi According to latest reports from autosport.com Force India have confirmed Vitantonio Liuzzi as their new driver . This dashes all hopes for an Indian replacement for Fisichella at Force India . Hopefuly this Italian can match Fisi's spa form and speed . Full story at :autosport.com - F1 News: Force India confirms Liuzzi in second car
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