Hockenheim 2005!! qualifying ,pre and post race ..

turbo_lover · 23rd July 2005, 17:27

for those who watched the German GP Qualifying must have witnessed bad luck still hovering over the mclarens ...

first it was Kimi with his car engines failing consistently before the past few races ...
now we saw a potential pole by montoya end in the side walls ...gahhh ! a mclaren 1 -2 would have certainly helped kimi bite bit more into Alonsos championship points ..i deally that would have been the plan for the mclarens ..anyways ...kimi has his pole which i hope he can convert into a victory ..

i am banking on a kimi win button and alonso on the podium ...
mclarens looking furiously fast ...Jenson - BAR duo getting stronger , ferrari still consistently tailing the top order ...

..pour in your predictions / views on tommorrows race ...
cheers !

shravan316 · 23rd July 2005, 18:53

What a qualification session.... McLarens are definitely having bad luck big time... Ron Dennis was saying that McLaren are gunning for a 1-2 finish in the remaining 8 races... Well, things haven't got off to a good start.
Kimi's lap was simply on the edge... awesome drive, awesome car control... Alonso is going for a heavier fuel load.
Montoya well..... we all saw what he did... his mistake.
MS and Ferrari do have to do a lot of work... they are wayy behind the lead teams and i dont think they'll get any better this season... although i can be wrong.
The BAR i think have gone for a lighter fuel load. So not really expecting a good finish for them.
My predictions: 1st Kimi, 2nd Alonso, 3rd Fisichella.

Montoya would try to finish the race in the points.

sridhar24 · 23rd July 2005, 19:13

It was an awesome lap from Kimi, JPM should blame himself for that mistake which cost him so much. Alonso was heavy on fuel but I think he will beat Button for 2nd place at the start itself. So my prediction is also same as shravan for first three places and P4 Button, P5 Schumi

turbo_lover · 23rd July 2005, 19:18

did u see how he managed to catch the car with a big opposite lock...he was on the limit!! hes on the pole with like .4th of a second ahead of the renault ...and it aint a light car either ..sheeeeer pace of the mclaren ..

sridhar24 · 23rd July 2005, 19:21

Does anyone know what was the matter with NK's car, it was sliding around on the track and he just went into the pits

turbo_lover · 24th July 2005, 00:37

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Originally Posted by sridhar24

Does anyone know what was the matter with NK's car, it was sliding around on the track and he just went into the pits

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Narain Karthikeyan
“I made a mistake in the first corner and then I was trying to gain the time back. I was pushing harder but I made another mistake and we decided that I should go straight to the pits to save our tyres. It is a pity because the car felt okay. I was pretty satisfied with the balance of the car and I am sure we have made the right choice of Bridgestone tyres for the race tomorrow. I will now do my best to have a good race on Sunday.”

fastest indian did us proud again ..

gr8guzzler · 24th July 2005, 01:27

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Originally Posted by turbo_lover

fastest indian did us proud again ..

Cool man...it happens. He's under lot of pressure and had to try hard...unfortunately for him his luck is still in bad shape.

Montoya

really frustrating....I thought his luck had finally chaged. Anyway, I think he can make it to the podium (well wishing he does)

Atleast we'll have our first Raik Vs Alonso race tomm, IMO alonso is gonna eat butto at the first corner itself and then I hope we get to see a good race between Raik & Alonso...

sridhar24 · 24th July 2005, 13:10

I think the Jordan is just not even as good as the Minardi here so I don't complain about NK performance.
MS drove a great lap to get the Ferrari to the 5th place and what a difference between him and RB, RB just managed to qualify ahead of the Minardi of Albers, thiugh he was he was heavy on fuel.
It will be a good race between Kimi and Alonso, Kimi will win for sure if the Merc engine lasts the race distance and the tyres don't give up as in Nurburgring.

Dippy · 24th July 2005, 13:15

A great qualifying session . MS drove a heroic lap but that was never going to be enough to keep him up there with the front runners. But 5th is not bad seeing the problems Ferrari are in this season. Kimis lap was astounding and good too see his engine doing well and getting to pole position. Button on third wont remain there for long as Alsonso is sure to pounce on him.

Its going to be battle royale between the Mclaren and Renault and I hope Kimi pulls of a victory to hot up the title chase.

Dippy

turbo_lover · 24th July 2005, 13:34

i think schumi has taken a huge risk trying to run the car light ...they dont have the pace to take advantage of a lightly fueled car ..i dbout schumacher will gain anything out of his current strategy ...

2L8uLoose · 24th July 2005, 14:46

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Originally Posted by turbo_lover

fastest indian did us proud again ..

did anyone else besides me think that the jordan was looking VERY GOOD for a BUCKING BRONCO and not a formula one car?

Deeps · 24th July 2005, 16:10

Don't think it was bad luck for Mclaren. It was Montoya's mistake and he rightly admitted it. The lap by Kimi was awesome though. he is by far the favourite to win, IMO, as long as his car stays in one piece and the bad luck clouds move over a garage or two.

Alonso is definitely not running heavier. He made a mistake in sector 1 but was 0.1 or less away from Kimi's time in the remaining sectors. Button's second place is not reflective of the pace of the BAR. But he'd do well to finish on the podium.

Role reversal at ferrari this time. Schumacher going for more stops than Barrichello.

Podium preditions: 1.Kimi 2.Alonso 3. Button/Schumacher (secretly hoping for Montoya to do what Kimi has done in the last 2 races)

turbo_lover · 24th July 2005, 18:43

kimi kimi kimi!! what will it take for him to win this championship????
he has ther skills ,mclaren has the pace and the setup...reliability seems to be the issue here ..the engines been failing for past 3 races ...
anyways off to wartcht he remaining 14 laps....

ported_head · 24th July 2005, 19:08

Whoa!!! Great race. My friend now owes me 500 bucks worth of beer credit. How you ask? I predicted win for Alonso, engine failure for Raikonnen and a top five standing for Fishichella.

Watch out guys, I might just be the next Bernie in the making.

Signing off,

Ported "Bernie" Head.

turbo_lover · 24th July 2005, 19:17

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Originally Posted by ported_head

I predicted win for Alonso, engine failure for Raikonnen and a top five standing for Fishichella.

Ported "Bernie" Head.

your nothing but a villian in my eyes

23rd July 2005, 17:27	#1
turbo_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,377 Thanked: 9 Times	Hockenheim 2005!! qualifying ,pre and post race .. for those who watched the German GP Qualifying must have witnessed bad luck still hovering over the mclarens ... first it was Kimi with his car engines failing consistently before the past few races ... now we saw a potential pole by montoya end in the side walls ...gahhh ! a mclaren 1 -2 would have certainly helped kimi bite bit more into Alonsos championship points ..i deally that would have been the plan for the mclarens ..anyways ...kimi has his pole which i hope he can convert into a victory .. i am banking on a kimi win button and alonso on the podium ... mclarens looking furiously fast ...Jenson - BAR duo getting stronger , ferrari still consistently tailing the top order ... ..pour in your predictions / views on tommorrows race ... cheers ! Last edited by turbo_lover : 23rd July 2005 at 17:30.
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23rd July 2005, 18:53	#2
shravan316 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,029 Thanked: 9 Times	What a qualification session.... McLarens are definitely having bad luck big time... Ron Dennis was saying that McLaren are gunning for a 1-2 finish in the remaining 8 races... Well, things haven't got off to a good start. Kimi's lap was simply on the edge... awesome drive, awesome car control... Alonso is going for a heavier fuel load. Montoya well..... we all saw what he did... his mistake. MS and Ferrari do have to do a lot of work... they are wayy behind the lead teams and i dont think they'll get any better this season... although i can be wrong. The BAR i think have gone for a lighter fuel load. So not really expecting a good finish for them. My predictions: 1st Kimi, 2nd Alonso, 3rd Fisichella. Montoya would try to finish the race in the points.
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23rd July 2005, 19:13	#3
sridhar24 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 1,046 Thanked: 88 Times	It was an awesome lap from Kimi, JPM should blame himself for that mistake which cost him so much. Alonso was heavy on fuel but I think he will beat Button for 2nd place at the start itself. So my prediction is also same as shravan for first three places and P4 Button, P5 Schumi Last edited by sridhar24 : 23rd July 2005 at 19:21.
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23rd July 2005, 19:18	#4
turbo_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,377 Thanked: 9 Times	did u see how he managed to catch the car with a big opposite lock...he was on the limit!! hes on the pole with like .4th of a second ahead of the renault ...and it aint a light car either ..sheeeeer pace of the mclaren ..
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23rd July 2005, 19:21	#5
sridhar24 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 1,046 Thanked: 88 Times	Does anyone know what was the matter with NK's car, it was sliding around on the track and he just went into the pits
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24th July 2005, 13:10	#8
sridhar24 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 1,046 Thanked: 88 Times	I think the Jordan is just not even as good as the Minardi here so I don't complain about NK performance. MS drove a great lap to get the Ferrari to the 5th place and what a difference between him and RB, RB just managed to qualify ahead of the Minardi of Albers, thiugh he was he was heavy on fuel. It will be a good race between Kimi and Alonso, Kimi will win for sure if the Merc engine lasts the race distance and the tyres don't give up as in Nurburgring.
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24th July 2005, 13:15	#9
Dippy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,558 Thanked: 2,462 Times	A great qualifying session . MS drove a heroic lap but that was never going to be enough to keep him up there with the front runners. But 5th is not bad seeing the problems Ferrari are in this season. Kimis lap was astounding and good too see his engine doing well and getting to pole position. Button on third wont remain there for long as Alsonso is sure to pounce on him. Its going to be battle royale between the Mclaren and Renault and I hope Kimi pulls of a victory to hot up the title chase. Dippy
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24th July 2005, 13:34	#10
turbo_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,377 Thanked: 9 Times	i think schumi has taken a huge risk trying to run the car light ...they dont have the pace to take advantage of a lightly fueled car ..i dbout schumacher will gain anything out of his current strategy ...
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24th July 2005, 16:10	#12
Deeps Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Delhi/Noida Posts: 1,116 Thanked: 170 Times	Don't think it was bad luck for Mclaren. It was Montoya's mistake and he rightly admitted it. The lap by Kimi was awesome though. he is by far the favourite to win, IMO, as long as his car stays in one piece and the bad luck clouds move over a garage or two. Alonso is definitely not running heavier. He made a mistake in sector 1 but was 0.1 or less away from Kimi's time in the remaining sectors. Button's second place is not reflective of the pace of the BAR. But he'd do well to finish on the podium. Role reversal at ferrari this time. Schumacher going for more stops than Barrichello. Podium preditions: 1.Kimi 2.Alonso 3. Button/Schumacher (secretly hoping for Montoya to do what Kimi has done in the last 2 races)
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24th July 2005, 18:43	#13
turbo_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,377 Thanked: 9 Times	kimi kimi kimi!! what will it take for him to win this championship???? he has ther skills ,mclaren has the pace and the setup...reliability seems to be the issue here ..the engines been failing for past 3 races ... anyways off to wartcht he remaining 14 laps....
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24th July 2005, 19:08	#14
ported_head Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 2,387 Thanked: 20 Times	Whoa!!! Great race. My friend now owes me 500 bucks worth of beer credit. How you ask? I predicted win for Alonso, engine failure for Raikonnen and a top five standing for Fishichella. Watch out guys, I might just be the next Bernie in the making. Signing off, Ported "Bernie" Head.
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