[PAVAN KADAM]

Originally Posted by McLaren Rulez

Hamilton had some really tough luck. It had nothing to do with how hard he was on his tyres. That is total rubbish because the failure was instantaneous. Besides, Hamilton set the fastest lap a few laps before the failure which proves that his tyres had plenty left at that point. Its a real pity because he put in yet another amazing performance and nicked second place in a great duel with Vettel when he exited the pits.

What this race really showed was that overtaking is truly dead in F1. Both Vettel and Button were way faster than Hamilton and Schumacher respectively but could do little about it. That's the clearest indication so far that overtaking is a serious problem.

I'm sure Schumacher outpacing Rosberg made many happy but Raj has a very good point. Rosberg outpaces Schumacher properly for the first four races, Merc changes the car and now Schumacher trounces him. Truth is, we'll never really know what happened there and whether Schumacher genuinely found his form or if Nico had a bad weekend or whether it has to do with the fact that Schumacher's chassis was damaged in the first few races. The Schumi fans will say that its the first or third option but it could well be otherwise.

When Schumi is fast, everyone says his car is good. Its something like saying, Vettel and webber are talentless guys driving a real fast car.

Hamilton makes a fool of himself almost everytime just before the podium. He needs to take it easy.

Button learnt, "what goes comes back fast"


Since the race is ended and we are hours to the next race, lets talk Monte carlo now.

[anachronix]

Originally Posted by McLaren Rulez

Hamilton had some really tough luck. It had nothing to do with how hard he was on his tyres. That is total rubbish because the failure was instantaneous. Besides, Hamilton set the fastest lap a few laps before the failure which proves that his tyres had plenty left at that point. Its a real pity because he put in yet another amazing performance and nicked second place in a great duel with Vettel when he exited the pits.

Alonso tried to do a catch up drive with the front runners with comparable times to Webber towards the end of the race. But, he ended with screwing up his tires for just 2 fast laps. If Hamilton had set the fastest laps earlier on with those tires then it would have meant the same problem. Tires getting over worked and give away at some point. Nothing has been confirmed yet from the Mclaren team as well except for the rubbish talks about stones on the track which caused the failure for Hamilton.

What I am saying here is a possibility which cannot be ruled out since Hamilton has historically proven that his driving style gets too hard on his tires.

What this race really showed was that overtaking is truly dead in F1. Both Vettel and Button were way faster than Hamilton and Schumacher respectively but could do little about it. That's the clearest indication so far that overtaking is a serious problem.

Barcelona is usually bore fest because of the lousy track layout. I was thinking Hamilton executed over 32 overtakes this season. Thats an awful lot of overtaking to be honest. Barcelona & Bahrain have been boring as expected. Expect the same for Monaco, Hungay & Valencia!

I'm sure Schumacher outpacing Rosberg made many happy but Raj has a very good point. Rosberg outpaces Schumacher properly for the first four races, Merc changes the car and now Schumacher trounces him. Truth is, we'll never really know what happened there and whether Schumacher genuinely found his form or if Nico had a bad weekend or whether it has to do with the fact that Schumacher's chassis was damaged in the first few races. The Schumi fans will say that its the first or third option but it could well be otherwise.

Rosberg simply had a bad weekend & he couldn't get the setup right in time for Barcelona. Schumacher did show whats in stock when he left Button kicking himself coming out of the pits. Never the less, it will be an awesome show by the 'F1 God'

[nitrous]

Originally Posted by Mclaren Rulez

What this race really showed was that overtaking is truly dead in F1. Both Vettel and Button were way faster than Hamilton and Schumacher respectively but could do little about it. That's the clearest indication so far that overtaking is a serious problem.

Yeah, right.

IMO, Button and Vettel are smooth operators. Butter smooth driving styles that get them poles and the Chinese GP win using just a single set of soft tyres.
But, they're pathetic at overtaking compared to the aggressive guys like Alonso or Hamilton.
Infact, I've noticed this to be Vettel's Achilles heel, he qualifies well, but loses his position and can't just go past someone who did it.

PS: This is his second brake failure, this year after the season opener. The guy must be as hard on the brakes as Hamilton is on the tyres.

[McLaren Rulez]

autosport.com - F1 News: Hamilton's wheel rim failure confirmed

There you go. A wheel rim failure that has nothing to do with how worn the tyres are.

Originally Posted by nitrous

IMO, Button and Vettel are smooth operators. Butter smooth driving styles that get them poles and the Chinese GP win using just a single set of soft tyres.
But, they're pathetic at overtaking compared to the aggressive guys like Alonso or Hamilton.

Button is no pushover though he has a nice guy image. And he had a significantly faster car. As for Vettel, the Red Bull was in a league of its own before it fell apart. Its merely the rain and some upside down grids that disguised the problem for the past three races. It will become apparent soon when we have more dry races. Wait and watch

[raj.barcode]

Originally Posted by PAVAN KADAM

When Schumi is fast, everyone says his car is good. Its something like saying, Vettel and webber are talentless guys driving a real fast car.

Hamilton makes a fool of himself almost everytime just before the podium. He needs to take it easy.

Button learnt, "what goes comes back fast"


Since the race is ended and we are hours to the next race, lets talk Monte carlo now.

Well it is a very strong statement to say that Vettel is talentless, please Pavan i think he is good driver rather a very good driver and has been a little unlucky with his luscious RBR

[McLaren Rulez]

Originally Posted by raj.barcode

Well it is a very strong statement to say that Vettel is talentless, please Pavan i think he is good driver rather a very good driver and has been a little unlucky with his luscious RBR

I think you misunderstood his post

I do take exception to his Hamilton comment though. Its a car failure. No different to having one's engine blow up a couple of laps from the end.

[neo45007]

Well, Monte Carlo is going to be a challenging one as usual.
One of the most difficult tracks to drive I feel.

I would expect Hamilton & Alonso to do well; though Red Bulls will be ready to provide top competition.

Schumi's experience & new car should help him to do well here !
What r ur initial thoughts ?

"Shall we start a new thread for next race" ?

[liquidmetal99]

Originally Posted by neo45007

"Shall we start a new thread for next race" ?

A Monaco thread is already there.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/intl-m...nte-carlo.html

[Dippy]

Its over to the Monaco GP. Continue discussion here

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