2010 F1 Europe - Valencia Telefonica Grand prix

jraj · 26th June 2010, 19:03

Schumi had power steeing problems

When on earth will his luck turn for good on this comeback.

He almost got eliminated on Q1 itself.With the chequred flag coming down the timing screen showed MS as out and I almost fell down from my sofa,only to see the tv camera's showing him just starting his final lap.

And guess what,it was RB on the radio asking "Michael we have a power steering problem.Can you manage to drive around that".The master responded by putting in his personal best lap times on all sectors

to make the cut

I guess even if your name is Michael Schumacher,you can do only so much when the lady luck for some reason isnt smiling on you

SchumiFan · 26th June 2010, 19:04

What a qualifying session! More than the grid order, one has to take a look at times to know how competitive the grid has become

Wonder how Vettel managed to post a such a time at a crucial period.

Any of the top 5 could win the race tomorrow if they could manage their pit strategies.MercGP are becoming the laugh of the town. Even they don't seem to know what they lack in their car.

PAVAN KADAM · 26th June 2010, 20:42

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Originally Posted by SchumiFan

What a qualifying session! More than the grid order, one has to take a look at times to know how competitive the grid has become

Wonder how Vettel managed to post a such a time at a crucial period.

Any of the top 5 could win the race tomorrow if they could manage their pit strategies.MercGP are becoming the laugh of the town. Even they don't seem to know what they lack in their car.

Clueless set of people

The team could have achieved wonders with Schumi and Nico driving.

A badly set car and great driver and a quick learner = Never can form the Trinity.

Hope Schumi and Nico does some magic tomorrow to drive home some points.

SilentEngine · 27th June 2010, 18:12

Webber had a massive shunt while he was trying to attack Kovalainen's Lotus. Webber's Red Bull literally took off after losing front wing and came to ground after a somersault and then finally into the barriers.

PAVAN KADAM · 27th June 2010, 18:14

Heard about "Redbull gives you wings"

And Redbull F1 with Webber flies, but today the way Webbers car flew was

The track length seems to be tooooo long and boring.

Coverage by Star sports is horrible and the commentators are busy talking to each other. Where's all the F1 excitement gone.

jraj · 27th June 2010, 19:05

So Heikki does a "Mark Webber" to Mark Webber who then decides to overtake the cars ahead of him in the air instead of the track.

That royally screws the race for Alonso,Massa.Again lady luck turns her back on Schumi who would have easily finished ahead of his team mate today

SilentEngine · 27th June 2010, 19:24

Vettel wins, but i think there will be few post race penalties dished out.

Disappointing strategies from Ferrari and Mercedes.

nitrous · 27th June 2010, 19:54

Alonso seems to have lost his defensive skills. There was a similar situation at the beginning of the season when Button (I think) tried to overtake him while he was on worn out tyres but he defended it well.
Ferrari now needs new drivers, strategists, engineers and management.
They need a NEW TEAM!

If not for the drive through penalty, Vettel would have been in the barriers while trying to defend Hamilton.

jraj · 27th June 2010, 20:13

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Originally Posted by nitrous

Alonso seems to have lost his defensive skills.

I think Alonso was quite peeved that Lewis holding him during the SC period cost him a lot of positions.That cant be ruled out considering how much crybaby Alonso is.

However,the whole race he was stuck behind Beumi and Kobayashi overtakes both of them in just 2 laps.

SchumiFan · 27th June 2010, 20:22

Alonso losing defensive skills? What do you expect him to do when a guy with fresh tires is on his heals. Also any amount of points scored is going to be valuable since all the racers in front him except Seb and Lewis were being investigated and could face a potential penalty. So instead of fighting for the position, he decided to take the safer option available.

Feeling gutted for Schumi though. 11th at the end of lap 1 and all he gets to do during the race is to test the working of the tires on his Merc. Somehow all seems to go wrong with MercGp at once! They have to get their act together and find the pace in their car to save their season.

jraj · 27th June 2010, 20:27

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Originally Posted by SchumiFan

Somehow all seems to go wrong with MercGp at once!

....moreso with Car No 3 throughout this season

PAVAN KADAM · 27th June 2010, 20:35

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Originally Posted by jraj

....moreso with Car No 3 throughout this season

Are we forgetting Kobiyashi, that guy gave it all, from an impressive 3rd to 9th and back to 7th on the finishing line

Again he made Alonso look like a sitting duck. lol....

Sutil drove a clean race, go Force India Go.

Mercedes GP has lost it, they've gone nuts, from being the top contenders, to the middle and now being amongst the back markers, with such talented drivers, its crime to give them such horrible cars.

Schumi showed, he's got what it takes to be the Best finishing in that position even after 3 pit stops.

SilentEngine · 27th June 2010, 21:03

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Originally Posted by jraj

However,the whole race he was stuck behind Beumi and Kobayashi overtakes both of them in just 2 laps.

That was down to the fresh set of tyres on Kobayashi's car vs worn out tyres on Alonso's car

madhav · 27th June 2010, 22:34

What kinda track is this Valencia? There are so many places that can host a good 'European' GP. There is no place to over take and it is just a waste of time to see cars going round and round this horrendous track.

I loved the Red Bulls today, Webber was the only thing worth seeing in this race

Get rid of this track Bernie!

_chikku · 27th June 2010, 22:40

Button, Barrichello, Hulkenberg, Kubica, Petrov, Sutil, Liuzzi, Buemi and Pedro de la Rosa have been handed 5-second time penalties for driving too quickly under Safety Car conditions...
Glock gets 20 sec penalty for ignoring blue flags

26th June 2010, 19:03	#16
jraj BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Michigan,USA Posts: 487 Thanked: 173 Times View My Garage	Schumi had power steeing problems When on earth will his luck turn for good on this comeback. He almost got eliminated on Q1 itself.With the chequred flag coming down the timing screen showed MS as out and I almost fell down from my sofa,only to see the tv camera's showing him just starting his final lap. And guess what,it was RB on the radio asking "Michael we have a power steering problem.Can you manage to drive around that".The master responded by putting in his personal best lap times on all sectors to make the cut I guess even if your name is Michael Schumacher,you can do only so much when the lady luck for some reason isnt smiling on you
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26th June 2010, 19:04	#17
SchumiFan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,041 Thanked: 1,161 Times	What a qualifying session! More than the grid order, one has to take a look at times to know how competitive the grid has becomeWonder how Vettel managed to post a such a time at a crucial period. Any of the top 5 could win the race tomorrow if they could manage their pit strategies.MercGP are becoming the laugh of the town. Even they don't seem to know what they lack in their car.
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27th June 2010, 18:12	#19
SilentEngine Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: KA19,KA04 Posts: 1,167 Thanked: 735 Times View My Garage	Webber had a massive shunt while he was trying to attack Kovalainen's Lotus. Webber's Red Bull literally took off after losing front wing and came to ground after a somersault and then finally into the barriers.
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27th June 2010, 18:14	#20
PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,602 Thanked: 2,549 Times	Heard about "Redbull gives you wings" And Redbull F1 with Webber flies, but today the way Webbers car flew was The track length seems to be tooooo long and boring. Coverage by Star sports is horrible and the commentators are busy talking to each other. Where's all the F1 excitement gone. Last edited by PAVAN KADAM : 27th June 2010 at 18:15.
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27th June 2010, 19:05	#21
jraj BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Michigan,USA Posts: 487 Thanked: 173 Times View My Garage	So Heikki does a "Mark Webber" to Mark Webber who then decides to overtake the cars ahead of him in the air instead of the track. That royally screws the race for Alonso,Massa.Again lady luck turns her back on Schumi who would have easily finished ahead of his team mate today
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27th June 2010, 19:24	#22
SilentEngine Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: KA19,KA04 Posts: 1,167 Thanked: 735 Times View My Garage	Vettel wins, but i think there will be few post race penalties dished out. Disappointing strategies from Ferrari and Mercedes.
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27th June 2010, 19:54	#23
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	Alonso seems to have lost his defensive skills. There was a similar situation at the beginning of the season when Button (I think) tried to overtake him while he was on worn out tyres but he defended it well. Ferrari now needs new drivers, strategists, engineers and management. They need a NEW TEAM! If not for the drive through penalty, Vettel would have been in the barriers while trying to defend Hamilton.
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27th June 2010, 20:22	#25
SchumiFan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,041 Thanked: 1,161 Times	Alonso losing defensive skills? What do you expect him to do when a guy with fresh tires is on his heals. Also any amount of points scored is going to be valuable since all the racers in front him except Seb and Lewis were being investigated and could face a potential penalty. So instead of fighting for the position, he decided to take the safer option available. Feeling gutted for Schumi though. 11th at the end of lap 1 and all he gets to do during the race is to test the working of the tires on his Merc. Somehow all seems to go wrong with MercGp at once! They have to get their act together and find the pace in their car to save their season. Last edited by SchumiFan : 27th June 2010 at 20:25.
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27th June 2010, 22:34	#29
madhav BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 286 Thanked: 73 Times	What kinda track is this Valencia? There are so many places that can host a good 'European' GP. There is no place to over take and it is just a waste of time to see cars going round and round this horrendous track. I loved the Red Bulls today, Webber was the only thing worth seeing in this race Get rid of this track Bernie!
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27th June 2010, 22:40	#30
_chikku BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Puttur Posts: 330 Thanked: 201 Times	Button, Barrichello, Hulkenberg, Kubica, Petrov, Sutil, Liuzzi, Buemi and Pedro de la Rosa have been handed 5-second time penalties for driving too quickly under Safety Car conditions... Glock gets 20 sec penalty for ignoring blue flags
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