2011 MotoGP discussion thread

nitrous · 2nd May 2011, 20:28

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Originally Posted by NGM

Another shock (to Vale it is!) was Dovi getting the best of his Honda at the best possible time. He should get that 0.002 sec overtaking move image framed and hang in his drawing room.

Full credit should go to the Honda engine and the bike.
This is going to be the last straw for Rossi and he's pretty much gonna drill it into the ducati engineers for a more powerful engine.

That said, it was a BORING race.

esoticoreventon · 12th May 2011, 11:20

Couldn't agree with you more, nitrous! It was a very very boring race, the Portugese Moto GP! It was like the Formula1 Bahrain GP, 2010!

SohailPistawala · 12th May 2011, 12:09

Race weekend once Again guys, and its Le Mans this time. Lorenzo leading the rider's championship sheet followed by Pedrosa, Stoner and Rossi. I am sure this sheet will change towards the end , and the competition will be tight.

Whats the bet for LeMans

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ashwin.terminat · 23rd May 2011, 22:28

Rossi still doesn't seem to fit in with Ducati. Him with his Yamaha were perfect. Sad that Yamaha wouldn't respect how much Rossi gave back to the team.

nitrous · 24th May 2011, 01:42

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Originally Posted by ashwin.terminat

Rossi still doesn't seem to fit in with Ducati. Him with his Yamaha were perfect. Sad that Yamaha wouldn't respect how much Rossi gave back to the team.

Go through Rossi's career to know about his move from Honda to Yamaha and Yamaha's performance prior to his arrival.

PS: He made podium with the Ducati at Le Mans, a week back.

ashwin.terminat · 24th May 2011, 01:55

hmmm. My post was based on what i've seen over the past few years. But choosing to pay jorge more didn't seem right. But he still hasn't got into as good a stride as he was in his yamaha. Guess it'll take time.

fz_rider · 26th June 2011, 01:04

Well, pretty boring race it was ! Apart from the dramatic first lap, there was nothing much. Full credit to Spies !

ashwin.terminat · 26th June 2011, 01:24

First Pedrosa, now Lorenzo! Simoncelli must realize this is MotoGP, not Road Rash!

VLOCT · 26th June 2011, 19:26

Spies with the right set up. What a treat to watch. Talk about smoking the field. I'm hoping the team can keep this up. A first place finish on his second year, wow!! Didn't expect it this early in his career. He's almost certainly a future champion. Myself being a Duc guy, still am rooting for him all the way.
Stoner if he continues the form will be the man to beat this year. I'll be surprised if Lorenzo can keep his runs up.
Would love to see Rossi up in the points, but I don't think its going to be easy, not with all the young guns around. But to be consistently in the top 5 on a brand new bike and team. What a genius!!

mobike008 · 3rd July 2011, 18:51

What an enjoyable Italian MotoGP.....Tremendous performance by Lorenzo who fought his way from 4th to 1st place and also Ben Spies was spectalular in overtaking Simoncelli.

Is it me or the Yam's look too fast for the Honda's. In comparison Honda's seemed to struggle to keep up with them and were swerving fishtailing all over the place.

I am disappointed to see my hero ( Rossi) struggle this season and looking at the championship points, i dont think he has any chances to win the championship. This time its clearly between Stoner and Lorenzo and wont be surprised if Lorenzo beats Stoner who is leading the points table.

Ben Spies is turning out to be a revelation and even Hector Barbara. Both Barbara and Simoncelli who moved up from the 250cc are doing pretty well and riding right up with the top guys.

Strange enough. Top Speeds mean nothing in this highly competitive racing. Hector clocked the highest speed in this race ( 335kmph) and came in overall 7th whilst Lorenza top speed was only 327kmph...Hmmm

I have been following Marco Simoncelli right from his 250cc days. but, unable to figure out one thing. Why does he stick his leg out so far wide out during tight corners? Anyone knows?

Can't wait for the next one on July 17th at Dresden, Germany !!!!

hillram · 3rd July 2011, 19:46

+1 Avi..I enjoyed the race to see Lorenzo cross the chequered flag on his Yamaha.I agree about The Doctor and Ducati are not getting good results.But Rossi is still the best for me.

Albert · 3rd July 2011, 22:22

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Originally Posted by mobike008

I have been following Marco Simoncelli right from his 250cc days. but, unable to figure out one thing. Why does he stick his leg out so far wide out during tight corners? Anyone knows?

Rossi was one of the first to regularly do this, although he doesn't seem to do it as much on the Ducati as he did on the Yamaha.
The reason that these guys all give is it is an aid to weight transfer! It helps them to get into the corner better by helping move the weight to the edge.
I think that there is also the potential to increase drag which would also help to pull them towards the corner!

Simoncelli seems to stick his leg out much more than the others though -- maybe it's because his legs are much longer!

Shivank · 4th July 2011, 02:22

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Originally Posted by mobike008

Is it me or the Yam's look too fast for the Honda's. In comparison Honda's seemed to struggle to keep up with them and were swerving fishtailing all over the place.

Hondas are definitely the quickest around the track.It's Lorenzo's desperation which makes the Yamaha look fast.On the straights you can see the power of the Honda.Honda is more powerful but Yamaha is a better handler.

As of today's race,I guess there were some issues with Stoner's bike (incorrect tire pressure for the conditions) and that's why his Honda was sliding all over.I am no Stoner fan and I do NOT deny the fact that Lorenzo rode really-really well today but if it weren't for the issues nobody could have snatched the race like that from Stoner today.He's a pretty fast chap..

VLOCT · 4th July 2011, 09:43

Real smart racing by Lorenzo. Stoner blew it by poor tire management. Looks like he pushed too hard too early. The race was his for the taking.

Spies is absolutely coming and coming hard, just like I expected. The bike has some ways to go yet to be a perfect set up for him but, the progress is clearly visible. I didn't really expect a podium finish till the latter part of the season. When I first saw him racing in the Superbike series it was clear that he'll be one of the greats of this generation barring any untoward injuries. Let's hope he'll deliver on the promise.

Albert · 4th July 2011, 21:41

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Originally Posted by VLOCT

Stoner blew it by poor tire management. Looks like he pushed too hard too early. The race was his for the taking.

I thought so to until the interview. It appears that his tyre pressure was slightly too high. As the race went on and the tyre got hotter the pressure increased and he had a smaller contact patch with both front and rear tyres! (or so he said!)

For me the were some top class rides yesterday. Lorenzo just never gave up and Dovi was so good I was left to wonder if he could have actually taken the win if he had managed to overtake Stoner about 6 laps sooner!
Ben Spies had a great race and it was a good reward for him to be able to claim 4th place after such a good battle with Simoncelli!

View Poll Results: Who'll win the 2011 season
Valentino Rossi	15	38.46%
Jorge Lorenzo	7	17.95%
Casey Stoner	14	35.90%
Dani Pedrosa	2	5.13%
Ben Spies	1	2.56%
Others	0	0%
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12th May 2011, 11:20	#62
esoticoreventon BHPian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Chennai Posts: 207 Thanked: 515 Times	Re: 2011 MotoGP discussion thread Couldn't agree with you more, nitrous! It was a very very boring race, the Portugese Moto GP! It was like the Formula1 Bahrain GP, 2010!
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12th May 2011, 12:09	#63
SohailPistawala BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 434 Thanked: 25 Times	Re: 2011 MotoGP discussion thread Race weekend once Again guys, and its Le Mans this time. Lorenzo leading the rider's championship sheet followed by Pedrosa, Stoner and Rossi. I am sure this sheet will change towards the end , and the competition will be tight. Whats the bet for LeMans Thanks
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23rd May 2011, 22:28	#64
ashwin.terminat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,711 Thanked: 2,192 Times	Re: 2011 MotoGP discussion thread Rossi still doesn't seem to fit in with Ducati. Him with his Yamaha were perfect. Sad that Yamaha wouldn't respect how much Rossi gave back to the team.
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24th May 2011, 01:55	#66
ashwin.terminat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,711 Thanked: 2,192 Times	Re: 2011 MotoGP discussion thread hmmm. My post was based on what i've seen over the past few years. But choosing to pay jorge more didn't seem right. But he still hasn't got into as good a stride as he was in his yamaha. Guess it'll take time.
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26th June 2011, 01:04	#67
fz_rider Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: World Posts: 1,148 Thanked: 766 Times	Re: 2011 MotoGP discussion thread Well, pretty boring race it was ! Apart from the dramatic first lap, there was nothing much. Full credit to Spies !
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26th June 2011, 01:24	#68
ashwin.terminat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,711 Thanked: 2,192 Times	Re: 2011 MotoGP discussion thread First Pedrosa, now Lorenzo! Simoncelli must realize this is MotoGP, not Road Rash!
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26th June 2011, 19:26	#69
VLOCT BHPian Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Las Vegas, USA Posts: 558 Thanked: 633 Times View My Garage	Re: 2011 MotoGP discussion thread Spies with the right set up. What a treat to watch. Talk about smoking the field. I'm hoping the team can keep this up. A first place finish on his second year, wow!! Didn't expect it this early in his career. He's almost certainly a future champion. Myself being a Duc guy, still am rooting for him all the way. Stoner if he continues the form will be the man to beat this year. I'll be surprised if Lorenzo can keep his runs up. Would love to see Rossi up in the points, but I don't think its going to be easy, not with all the young guns around. But to be consistently in the top 5 on a brand new bike and team. What a genius!!
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3rd July 2011, 18:51	#70
mobike008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 11,697 Thanked: 14,815 Times View My Garage	Re: 2011 MotoGP discussion thread What an enjoyable Italian MotoGP.....Tremendous performance by Lorenzo who fought his way from 4th to 1st place and also Ben Spies was spectalular in overtaking Simoncelli. Is it me or the Yam's look too fast for the Honda's. In comparison Honda's seemed to struggle to keep up with them and were swerving fishtailing all over the place. I am disappointed to see my hero ( Rossi) struggle this season and looking at the championship points, i dont think he has any chances to win the championship. This time its clearly between Stoner and Lorenzo and wont be surprised if Lorenzo beats Stoner who is leading the points table. Ben Spies is turning out to be a revelation and even Hector Barbara. Both Barbara and Simoncelli who moved up from the 250cc are doing pretty well and riding right up with the top guys. Strange enough. Top Speeds mean nothing in this highly competitive racing. Hector clocked the highest speed in this race ( 335kmph) and came in overall 7th whilst Lorenza top speed was only 327kmph...Hmmm I have been following Marco Simoncelli right from his 250cc days. but, unable to figure out one thing. Why does he stick his leg out so far wide out during tight corners? Anyone knows? Can't wait for the next one on July 17th at Dresden, Germany !!!!
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3rd July 2011, 19:46	#71
hillram Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 2,942 Thanked: 1,326 Times View My Garage	Re: 2011 MotoGP discussion thread +1 Avi..I enjoyed the race to see Lorenzo cross the chequered flag on his Yamaha.I agree about The Doctor and Ducati are not getting good results.But Rossi is still the best for me.
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4th July 2011, 09:43	#74
VLOCT BHPian Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Las Vegas, USA Posts: 558 Thanked: 633 Times View My Garage	Re: 2011 MotoGP discussion thread Real smart racing by Lorenzo. Stoner blew it by poor tire management. Looks like he pushed too hard too early. The race was his for the taking. Spies is absolutely coming and coming hard, just like I expected. The bike has some ways to go yet to be a perfect set up for him but, the progress is clearly visible. I didn't really expect a podium finish till the latter part of the season. When I first saw him racing in the Superbike series it was clear that he'll be one of the greats of this generation barring any untoward injuries. Let's hope he'll deliver on the promise.
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