The story of a Blue Streak a.k.a Maruti Swift ZDi (Torque Blue). 1,20,000 km up & now sold

a4anurag · 12th October 2015, 12:50

After I changed the tyres from MRF ZVTV to MRF Z.L.O, I found a continuous humming noise irrespective of gear the car is but mainly evident in between 40 - 55 kmph. I was expecting it to be tyre noise so I let it be for the initial kms till they bed in but as of today the car has done 3.4K on the new set of tyres. I maintain F=32psi and R=30psi topped up with Nitrogen.

Went to MASS and gave them the car to check what the noise was and they returned saying it is wheel bearing that has done kaput. I gave them a go ahead to change the same. So should be taking it to MASS in a day or two. The front Left one is gone.

I was initially thinking of getting all 4 changed but was advised that there is no point and only good to change the effected one. Also the cra being at 57K kms, I thought of getting all this done during the 60K service but that is still a month away and I didn't want to torture that bearing further.

Shall update the thread with the costs and post change behaviour.

Darth Sid · 13th October 2015, 00:31

That's odd. The Swift's bearings are that shortlived? Please do let us know the cost, etc when the repair is done. I ask this because the alloy wheels I installed on my car have offset +28. Am wondering what the cost of bearing replacement would be if these wheels cause a premature failure. Hopefully there will be no issue.

By the way, bearings are not covered under warranty? I suppose they are considered a wear and tear item.

a4anurag · 13th October 2015, 01:23

LATEST UPDATE:

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Went to MASS and gave them the car to check what the noise was and they returned saying it is wheel bearing that has done kaput.

After I got the car checked at Gem motors MASS, went to Sai Service MASS for a second opinion. They checked the way mentioned in this way :

Check from 2:00 -

https://youtu.be/cdRpnK5MGQ8

Initially the SA at Gem motors just drove around and concluded that the bearing is shot.

But now it is concluded that bearings are good. The issue is somewhere else. Now I suspect the tyres itself.

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Originally Posted by Darth Sid

That's odd. The Swift's bearings are that shortlived?

Please check above. I have updated the issue

Cost of front bearing is 925 bucks.

CrAzY dRiVeR · 13th October 2015, 01:49

The humming noise from ZLO tyres have been reported by other owners as well. I remember reading this when searching for my tyre upgrade last time around.

I guess the tyres are the culprit here as well.

Darth Sid · 13th October 2015, 02:20

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Originally Posted by a4anurag

Please check above. I have updated the issue

Cost of front bearing is 925 bucks.

Wow! That's a relief! Good thing you didn't have to get the bearing replaced. Also good to know it isn't super expensive. How much might the labour be?

a4anurag · 13th October 2015, 02:30

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Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

The humming noise from ZLO tyres have been reported by other owners as well.

Yes buddy. Shall go through the ZLO thread again. Any way to zero down or diagnose that the tyre is at fault?

It is very irritating to drive with that noise but the tyre performance is exceptional.

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Originally Posted by Darth Sid

Wow! That's a relief!

Didn't find out costs for labor as the need to change wasn't required.

Darth Sid · 13th October 2015, 05:48

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Originally Posted by a4anurag

Didn't find out costs for labor as the need to change wasn't required.

I am sure the labour cost will not be low since they would have to pull the bearing out and fit the replacement with some machine. Anyway, the info on the part cost is helpful. Thanks.

sumeethaldankar · 14th October 2015, 10:03

Glad you didnt have to change bearings but in case of replacement shouldn't it be done in pairs ?

paragsachania · 14th October 2015, 11:16

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Originally Posted by sumeethaldankar

Glad you didnt have to change bearings but in case of replacement shouldn't it be done in pairs ?

Not at all. Bearings can be replaced individually based on which one needs a change due to wear and tear or any issues.

Darth Sid · 18th October 2015, 01:43

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Originally Posted by paragsachania

Not at all. Bearings can be replaced individually based on which one needs a change due to wear and tear or any issues.

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Originally Posted by sumeethaldankar

Glad you didnt have to change bearings but in case of replacement shouldn't it be done in pairs ?

Also, if I am not mistaken, in many cars if a hub is disassembled, the bearing suffers damage during the process which is why it is always replaced when the hub is reinstalled. Both bearings in a single wheel have to be replaced but not all bearings on the whole axle. That means if the front left wheel hub is removed, the front right bearing need not be replaced.

a4anurag · 22nd October 2015, 01:40

Nothing much to update though, the car has now crossed 58K kms and is running well.

IFTEX - System D:

It's been 6 full tanks that I have been using the "System D" fuel additive that I bought.

Verdict:
Can't find any difference in sound. FE is remaining same as earlier. May be the difference is inside and not visible to me!

MRF Z.L.O.:

Been almost 4000 kms on these tyres. Running exceptionally well and I am enjoying every kilometer with it but for that humming sound that I hear between 40-60 kmph. Not getting time to diagnose the possible culprit.

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HUD given to me for Review:

My close friend who currently drives a 2013 Ritz LDi is now missing the tachometer and was in need of one. So I suggested him to get the Tachometer fixed as seen in the higher variants but he was not wanting to cut the dashboard to fix it. So with this option out, the other choice was tachometer's that we see in Fast and Furious movies.

Gave him couple of links and he did zero down on one but somehow cancelled that idea too but while browsing for this, I came across this HUD. Started searching the same on AliExpress. Sent him the link again for him to decide. Without any much thought he bought it right away.

Got this delivered today after 64 days and 11 hours from Shipping time.

Here are the initial pictures of the same. Shall post a detailed review on it as I'll be having this in my possession for over a month:

The Packaging:

The story of a Blue Streak a.k.a Maruti Swift ZDi (Torque Blue). 1,20,000 km up & now sold-img_20151021_160101.jpg

HUD:

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Contents (HUD unit; OBD II Cable; Reflecting Film; Anti-slip Pad and User Manual):

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The OBD II Cable:

The story of a Blue Streak a.k.a Maruti Swift ZDi (Torque Blue). 1,20,000 km up & now sold-img_20151021_221031.jpg

The story of a Blue Streak a.k.a Maruti Swift ZDi (Torque Blue). 1,20,000 km up & now sold-img_20151021_221056.jpg

Price that it was bought for:

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SunnyBoi · 22nd October 2015, 05:55

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Originally Posted by a4anurag

MRF Z.L.O.:

Been almost 4000 kms on these tyres. Running exceptionally well and I am enjoying every kilometer with it but for that humming sound that I hear between 40-60 kmph. Not getting time to diagnose the possible culprit.

The culprit possibly are slightly bent rims. The humming sound started on my car when I hit a bad pothole and bent my rims. The sound disappeared when I swapped the bent rim for a new one. The sound came back after 1.5 months but by then I just chose to ignore it.

a4anurag · 22nd October 2015, 10:54

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Originally Posted by SunnyBoi

The culprit possibly are slightly bent rims. The humming sound started on my car when I hit a bad pothole and bent my rims.

So won't this show up during balancing?

a4anurag · 25th October 2015, 01:08

With regards to the HUD that I had posted two posts back, here are two pictures and one small video showing the HUD at night time.

Pictures:

Day time:

The story of a Blue Streak a.k.a Maruti Swift ZDi (Torque Blue). 1,20,000 km up & now sold-img_20151023_113445.jpg

Night Time:

The story of a Blue Streak a.k.a Maruti Swift ZDi (Torque Blue). 1,20,000 km up & now sold-img_20151023_222909.jpg

HUD working at Night on my Swift ZDi

Darth Sid · 25th October 2015, 10:00

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Originally Posted by a4anurag

So won't this show up during balancing?

If a bent rim is causing noise, it is imbalanced so it should reveal its defect during wheel balancing. A bent flange will have altered mass distribution.

12th October 2015, 12:50	#406
a4anurag BANNED Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 12,350 Thanked: 21,411 Times	re: The story of a Blue Streak a.k.a Maruti Swift ZDi (Torque Blue). 1,20,000 km up & now sold After I changed the tyres from MRF ZVTV to MRF Z.L.O, I found a continuous humming noise irrespective of gear the car is but mainly evident in between 40 - 55 kmph. I was expecting it to be tyre noise so I let it be for the initial kms till they bed in but as of today the car has done 3.4K on the new set of tyres. I maintain F=32psi and R=30psi topped up with Nitrogen. Went to MASS and gave them the car to check what the noise was and they returned saying it is wheel bearing that has done kaput. I gave them a go ahead to change the same. So should be taking it to MASS in a day or two. The front Left one is gone. I was initially thinking of getting all 4 changed but was advised that there is no point and only good to change the effected one. Also the cra being at 57K kms, I thought of getting all this done during the 60K service but that is still a month away and I didn't want to torture that bearing further. Shall update the thread with the costs and post change behaviour.
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13th October 2015, 00:31	#407
Darth Sid BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Noida Posts: 306 Thanked: 119 Times	That's odd. The Swift's bearings are that shortlived? Please do let us know the cost, etc when the repair is done. I ask this because the alloy wheels I installed on my car have offset +28. Am wondering what the cost of bearing replacement would be if these wheels cause a premature failure. Hopefully there will be no issue. By the way, bearings are not covered under warranty? I suppose they are considered a wear and tear item.
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CrAzY dRiVeR Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bangalore / TVM Posts: 17,180 Thanked: 73,502 Times View My Garage	re: The story of a Blue Streak a.k.a Maruti Swift ZDi (Torque Blue). 1,20,000 km up & now sold The humming noise from ZLO tyres have been reported by other owners as well. I remember reading this when searching for my tyre upgrade last time around. I guess the tyres are the culprit here as well.
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sumeethaldankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 3,937 Thanked: 3,318 Times View My Garage	re: The story of a Blue Streak a.k.a Maruti Swift ZDi (Torque Blue). 1,20,000 km up & now sold Glad you didnt have to change bearings but in case of replacement shouldn't it be done in pairs ?
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a4anurag BANNED Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 12,350 Thanked: 21,411 Times	re: The story of a Blue Streak a.k.a Maruti Swift ZDi (Torque Blue). 1,20,000 km up & now sold Nothing much to update though, the car has now crossed 58K kms and is running well. IFTEX - System D: It's been 6 full tanks that I have been using the "System D" fuel additive that I bought. Verdict: Can't find any difference in sound. FE is remaining same as earlier. May be the difference is inside and not visible to me! *MRF Z.L.O.:* Been almost 4000 kms on these tyres. Running exceptionally well and I am enjoying every kilometer with it but for that humming sound that I hear between 40-60 kmph. Not getting time to diagnose the possible culprit. __________________________________________________ _________________ HUD given to me for Review: My close friend who currently drives a 2013 Ritz LDi is now missing the tachometer and was in need of one. So I suggested him to get the Tachometer fixed as seen in the higher variants but he was not wanting to cut the dashboard to fix it. So with this option out, the other choice was tachometer's that we see in Fast and Furious movies. Gave him couple of links and he did zero down on one but somehow cancelled that idea too but while browsing for this, I came across this HUD. Started searching the same on AliExpress. Sent him the link again for him to decide. Without any much thought he bought it right away. Got this delivered today after 64 days and 11 hours from Shipping time. Here are the initial pictures of the same. Shall post a detailed review on it as I'll be having this in my possession for over a month: The Packaging: HUD: Contents (HUD unit; OBD II Cable; Reflecting Film; Anti-slip Pad and User Manual): The OBD II Cable: Price that it was bought for: Last edited by a4anurag : 22nd October 2015 at 01:44.
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