[Rshrey22]

If there are no gas leaks, cooling coil has been replaced and condenser is not at fault either, then I feel that the AC compressor unit in your car has become weak and is not able to compress the gas hard enough for expansion and thus cooling to take place. Ask the guys at the service centre to do a compressor pressure test with a pressure gauge.

[hserus]

Originally Posted by Rshrey22

If there are no gas leaks, cooling coil has been replaced and condenser is not at fault either, then I feel that the AC compressor unit in your car has become weak and is not able to compress the gas hard enough for expansion and thus cooling to take place. Ask the guys at the service centre to do a compressor pressure test with a pressure gauge.

My advice - go to a specialised AC mechanic rather than to the ASS for this. This thread looks like this shop knows what they’re doing so try them https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/delhi...w-delhi-4.html (Car Air-conditioning - Cooldays Car AC (Lajpat Nagar-I, New Delhi))

Also did you check coolant levels?

[Rshrey22]

Originally Posted by hserus

Also did you check coolant levels?

Coolant levels have nothing to do with Air Conditioning unless you want hot air in winters.

Compressor test is a simple procedure, I am sure service centre guys can do it easily.

[hserus]

Originally Posted by Rshrey22

Coolant levels have nothing to do with Air Conditioning unless you want hot air in winters.

Compressor test is a simple procedure, I am sure service centre guys can do it easily.

Yes that should be done but on particularly hot days the engine might cut off the AC compressor to save the radiator from overheating if there's low coolant or a clogged radiator. I've seen this happen before in an Etios cab in front of my eyes, at the AC workshop where I was getting my previous Scorpio's compressor changed.

[Sheel]

After all parts were changed, the AC's problem still persisted.

There is some actuator below or near the steering which flips / rotates, this had got jammed which was causing all the problem.

I was mentioning them that, the issue is with any sensor / thermostat and not cooling coil or compressor. Anyways, most things were changed in warranty so have no reason to complain. Scorpio is at 78K+ now.

Hopefully will post an update at 80K with service.

[Sheel]

Done with the 80K service.

Apart from regular consumables, nothing was changed. I think, the clutch may need replacement in another 10 to 20K, but that is it.





Post this December, the warranty will get over and going by how things are, I don't think, I need to worry much, but fingers crossed.

Engine continues to impress me with its tractability, smoothness and refinement. Disappointed by braking and ride, these are turn-offs.

[Sheel]

Not really relevant to ownership, but, please allow me to share, it was damn tasty by the way.

Cake courtesy - bunch of friends into automobiles, riding.

P.S. - My birthday was few days ago.

[hserus]

Originally Posted by Sheel

Not really relevant to ownership, but, please allow me to share, it was damn tasty by the way.

Cake courtesy - bunch of friends into automobiles, riding.

Happy birthday! And what a mouth watering car.

[Herbie98]

Originally Posted by Sheel

Engine continues to impress me with its tractability, smoothness and refinement. Disappointed by braking and ride, these are turn-offs.

Spot on observations. I owned a Scorpio S4+ (2WD) for 1 yr 11 months and 73k kms. The engine was a gem - refined and power was always available on tap. Used to get 13.5 kmpl in Bangalore bumper-to-bumper crawling traffic with AC and on highways used to get 14.5 to 15.5 kmpl.

But the Ride quality was unbearable, this is in comparison to the Bolero that we owned previously. The braking on Scorpio is better than a Bolero but still leaves a lot to be desired.

I ended up selling Scorpio after 73k kms, because the Ride & Handling was always uncomfortable and tiring on long distances.

Wish Bolero was available with a powerful engine and brakes, the Bolero runs so well planted and used to dismiss flat roads without even the need to slow down.

[hserus]

Originally Posted by Herbie98

But the Ride quality was unbearable, this is in comparison to the Bolero that we owned previously. The braking on Scorpio is better than a Bolero but still leaves a lot to be desired.

I am not sure of that - the ride quality leaves me fresh even after 10-12 hour drives.

One thing you might consider is getting better tyres than the Bridgestone Dueler HT - I switched to Michelin Primacy SUV and the difference is palpable. Of course, rotate / align / balance every 5k km.

Also ensure that the tyres are inflated to 32 psi. Many fuel pumps automatically see a scorpio and set their machines to 36 psi and over inflating will give you a horrible bumpy ride quality.

[Herbie98]

Originally Posted by hserus

I am not sure of that - the ride quality leaves me fresh even after 10-12 hour drives.

One thing you might consider is getting better tyres than the Bridgestone Dueler HT - I switched to Michelin Primacy SUV and the difference is palpable. Of course, rotate / align / balance every 5k km.

Also ensure that the tyres are inflated to 32 psi. Many fuel pumps automatically see a scorpio and set their machines to 36 psi and over inflating will give you a horrible bumpy ride quality.

As i said, I had the vehicle for 73k kms, I have tried various tyre pressures. I had MRFs which i replaced at 10k kms to Yoko Geolander. And I have drove other Scorpios of the same vintage as well with Bridgestones and Michellin Primacy, the ride quality is no where close to Bolero. And please note that, Bolero in itself is not a great benchmark.

I do 40k kms a year, and sometimes cover 1000km per day easily in a Bolero. But in Scorpio anything more than 600 kms was a torture. I had to sell it just because of the unbearable ride quality.

From the Mahindra stable, in terms of ride quality its the Marazzo and Bolero. Even XUV has a crashy ride quality. Scorpio has excessive side ways and vertical movement. The only roads Scorpio performs well is on nice flat 4 laned highways.

[Sheel]

Originally Posted by Herbie98

I ended up selling Scorpio after 73k kms, because the Ride & Handling was always uncomfortable and tiring on long distances.

What did you replace the Scorpio with?

Originally Posted by hserus

I am not sure of that - the ride quality leaves me fresh even after 10-12 hour drives.

Try being a passenger in the middle seat for a change.

By ride quality, neither of us speak only about the front passengers, while it is somewhat ok in the front, it is not good at the back / middle. Mine is a 4WD, having more weight and a bit more composure than 2WD and it still is not a patch on any other SUV.

[hserus]

Originally Posted by Herbie98

From the Mahindra stable, in terms of ride quality its the Marazzo and Bolero. Even XUV has a crashy ride quality. Scorpio has excessive side ways and vertical movement. The only roads Scorpio performs well is on nice flat 4 laned highways.

I agree on the Marazzo, stunning ride quality and driving comfort. If I was in the market for an innova style vehicle ..

Most of my driving is on long flat highways (GST road down to Kanyakumari, Chennai - Bangalore) and the Scorpio performs quite adequately on those for 30k km a year. I very rarely do rough roads, and the few times it has gone to the hills, the ride has been adequate.

Originally Posted by Sheel

Try being a passenger in the middle seat for a change.

My wife and kids prefer the back seat when they accompany me on long drives, and they claim the vertical and sideways movement feels like a train coach so it rocks them to sleep, plus the seat is broad enough that they can put their feet up. Different people, different tastes I guess.

Most of my use is on long solo drives - and for driving comfort, I'm quite happy with the Scorpio.

[Herbie98]

Originally Posted by Sheel

What did you replace the Scorpio with?

Hi Sheel,
I haven't bought anything yet. Was interested in the Hexa / Storme, but with Storme gone and uncertainty with Hexa, am still contemplating. I had the privilege of driving an Innova for few days, wasn't happy with seats and ground clearance and the previous gen Innova is not fuel efficient at all. I am kind of waiting to see how the next gen Scoprio will be, else thinking to pick up a pre-owned Storme or Hexa.

Originally Posted by Sheel

Try being a passenger in the middle seat for a change.

By ride quality, neither of us speak only about the front passengers, while it is somewhat ok in the front, it is not good at the back / middle. Mine is a 4WD, having more weight and a bit more composure than 2WD and it still is not a patch on any other SUV.

Originally Posted by hserus

Most of my driving is on long flat highways (GST road down to Kanyakumari, Chennai - Bangalore) and the Scorpio performs quite adequately on those for 30k km a year. I very rarely do rough roads, and the few times it has gone to the hills, the ride has been adequate.

In this kind of good 4 lanes, it does fair and is liveable for front row seats. Still there is a bounce and boat kind of feel in 2nd row. Driving even on 40-50 kms on broken roads will tire every one inside.

Originally Posted by hserus

My wife and kids prefer the back seat when they accompany me on long drives, and they claim the vertical and sideways movement feels like a train coach so it rocks them to sleep, plus the seat is broad enough that they can put their feet up. Different people, different tastes I guess.

One of my friend who previously had a Scorpio used to say the same, he and his family used to like the rocking motion.
For us, the ride has to be flat and planted, my favorites are Hexa, Duster, Bolt/Zest.

[Sheel]

Originally Posted by Sheel

Have spent ~13,xxx kms with my April 2018 Swift ZXi+.

And, I am extremely disappointed with MUL's flimsy build and thin paint quality. A slight nudge anywhere and there is a dent and a paint scrape. Yes, this is India and I have been driving for close to 2 decades now, but, yet to come across any other car brand which shows so many scars, even the Gen 2 Swift's build and paint is noticeably better.

The other car which I drive is a M&M Scorpio S10 4WD, it has seen 87,xxx kms in 4+ years on the worse roads and traffic and you will have to search for any scratches. Scorpio is no German and neither is the paint quality top class, but at-least, it is not as bad as this Maruti.

For my all other purposes of buying the Swift, it fits the role to a T, but am sick of this issue. So much so, that I think I will use it less. I am afraid to use it on highways [you can feel the light, tinny build] and it is hopeless as a beater car as one or the other dent / scratch keeps cropping up every month .

Law of Murphy.

I was standing in traffic and a motorcycle with a dickey [side case] side swapped my Scorpio from RHS, I was devastated, as this was the first time it got a scratch with me on board [whatever scratch / swirls it has, was either during parking or with stone hits from other vehicles].

Took it to my guy who details my rides, one rubbing compound later, one could not even find if there was a scratch. Maruti should learn a thing or two from M&M. Had this happened with my Swift, I would have to send it to paint shop.

The Scorpio is at 88K currently and chugging along.