My B16 City Review - behind the scene

rranjith_kum · 23rd August 2006, 07:18

Great project .... but i wish you post some more information regarding the endorsements from the RTOs and all .... more over can you request your friend to post the details of were he pilled up the engine from ... the cost issue and the condition! just in case we also wanna buy one

Ford Rocam · 23rd August 2006, 19:00

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Quote Mpower
Congrats. Car looks sweet.
You could have bought a more expensive brand new car for the money...but you went out and did what you did and thats really commendable.

I didnt get you, fyi cost spend on it is very very far from cost of expensive brand new car.

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Noticed that the engine came with the double wishbone suspension. Did you just junk it? what spring and shocks are you using for it.

The suspension components are of Civic EG chasis and had come along with the engine but they were not direct fit, it required alteration in both right&left front Apron with cutting & welding done by hand, doing that would so alter the geometry of car structure hence i decided to junk it & use OEM stock suspensions but upgraded those with adjustable coil over suspensions & stiffer springs.

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Thats my only concern. Isnt it a little too harsh for daily use? Its not exactly smooth when transferring the power to the wheels

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Since i had to change the clutch i decided to spend only once & got stage 4 clutch which can be used for both Street/Strip & it can handle power in access of 350whp. its irritating sometime in traffic but i am used to it now.

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Hey, how's the handling with that much power? Stock Vtec feels scary after 150. This must be mad!

After lowering my car by 1in in rear & 1/2 in front first i got wheel alignment (front & rear ) & balancing done then I tested my car with stock ECM on expressway on straight i maxed out at 185KMph cause JDM engines have speed restrictions, it was running rock solid on straight & on twist & turns thanks to bridgestone GIII with 205 profile. Once i rebuild my engine i will test my car again but i dont think it will be safe to take a lighweight car over 220KpH though she would be capable.

veyron1 · 23rd August 2006, 19:34

Nice review. Like mentioned, your report spells ENTHUSIASM...! I almost choked myself at the Speedrun, when you were redlining the beast. Man, you could give Concorde a run for it's money with that exhaust note. I've heard Lancers, Balenos and City 1.5's WITHOUT any header/manifold, and your baby is LOUDER....! With the headers...! Wonder what she'd sound like without any restriction....

Mpower · 25th August 2006, 22:24

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Originally Posted by Ford Rocam

I didnt get you, fyi cost spend on it is very very far from cost of expensive brand new car.

I said more expensive....as in more than the used OHC 1.3 that you picked up.

Ford Rocam · 25th August 2006, 23:31

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Originally Posted by Mpower

I said more expensive....as in more than the used OHC 1.3 that you picked up.

Ok i will have to reveal some more statistics which i didnt wanted to.

Cost of OHC 1.3L Yr 2001 = 3L Power you get 90 Bhp

Cost of OHC Vtec 1.5L Yr 2001 = between 4.25- 4.5L power you get 106 Bhp

Landed Cost of Engine + labour + Miscellaneous components =2L (actual cost to me +- 10K)

Cost of OHC 1.3L Yr 2001 with JDM B16A = 3L + 2L = 5L
Minus cost of 1.3L engine with gearbox which i sold off for 45K = 5L-45K = 4,55000/=

So Net cost to me for
OHC Vtec with B16A = 4,55,000/= with factory gauranted power of 170 Bhp.

now you compare indian Spec Vtec engine the cost & mine car cost with B16 the price difference will be hardly anything between +- 15K, but i have got a solid foundation to start with.

So what ever mods you do on both like suspension/brakes/clutch/turbo etc will be common to both but the output result will be totally different between 1.5Vtec & B16 Dohc vtec.

Rocam

Shan2nu · 25th August 2006, 23:40

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Ok i will have to reveal some more statistics which i didnt wanted to.

Cost of OHC 1.3L Yr 2001 = 3L Power you get 90 Bhp

Cost of OHC Vtec 1.5L Yr 2001 = between 4.25- 4.5L power you get 106 Bhp

Landed Cost of Engine + labour + Miscellaneous components =2L (actual cost to me +- 10K)

Cost of OHC 1.3L Yr 2001 with JDM B16A = 3L + 2L = 5L
Minus cost of 1.3L engine with gearbox which i sold off for 45K = 5L-45K = 4,55000/=

So Net cost to me for
OHC Vtec with B16A = 4,55,000/= with factory gauranted power of 170 Bhp.

Now thats what i call a bargain. Haha

For the price of a 106bhp car, you got a 170bhp one made. And 170 is just stock power, there's still room for a lot more.

Shan2nu

Mpower · 26th August 2006, 02:57

Thanks for sharing the figs. That is indeed a steal.

hellspawn · 26th August 2006, 04:56

great review,thats a beautiful car you have there,especially the part under the hood.you actually did manage quite a steal with the figures you jut gave.i can see a lot of hard work went into the car but you make it sound so easy.kudos to you on a job well done.would love to see the car in action.some more pics please.

manveet · 26th August 2006, 13:17

hey dood ..

i think that the deal being a steal is not the issue here ..

just the fact that you had the *****, not to mention the time and the patience to pull it off is what is REALLY commendable.

I mean even though i have a 5L budget, would i have the enthusiasm that you did to go through with the project .. i don't know !! maybe i'd pay 40-50k extra and get someone elso do it for me ..

great going !! and keep the faith

binz · 26th August 2006, 14:31

Beautiful car very clean job...and goin by the top gear article,i kind of guessed your tuner.

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Originally Posted by Ford Rocam's signature

cheap and reliable wont be fast , cheap and fast wont be reliable , reliable and fast wont be cheap.

Which part of this relates to your car?

Mugen_Power · 27th August 2006, 01:22

Hey Ford Rocom,

Amazing Car..
Thanks For The Figures..
Would Like To Take A Drive..

Cheers,
Mugen_Power.

redrage · 27th August 2006, 12:56

amazing .... now thats a truly commendable and worthwhile project.

veyron1 · 27th August 2006, 15:58

Gives a whole new meaning to the term Value for Money. Thanks a bunch for that TREMENDOUSLY USEFUL info, Rocam. Clears a lot of doubts.....not many would be kind enough to do what you have done. Helps a lot.

X-Machine · 20th September 2006, 20:37

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Originally Posted by janeckozzy

how much did the entire project cost you. And can you give me the no of your guy who did it ....and what the price difference wrt the b18c

The cost has been put up by Jitu. And the car has been tuned by Karan of KS Motorsport. This car is quick. Very fast.
The B18c is also tuned by Karan, and is presently in Delhi. Thats a damn monster.

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The Wolf · 20th September 2006, 21:36

Great download Jitu...appreciate it!

Im prolly one of those lucky guys who got to see and feel the car sitting right here in blore when Jitu had come for the speed drag. The car sounded heavenly and every bit of that under the hood view spewed venom!!! Apart from a very modest reaction time I guess Jitu managed a 14.3secs ET for a 1/4th mile...damn bloody good!!! However Im sure that car is capable of going under 14secs...hopefully next time around.

Thanks for sharing the experience Jitu...Best of luck with your upcoming project.

p.s: Plan to come to mumbai some time soon.....hope to catchup!

23rd August 2006, 07:18	#16
rranjith_kum BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Coimbatore/ Aachen Posts: 693 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	Great project .... but i wish you post some more information regarding the endorsements from the RTOs and all .... more over can you request your friend to post the details of were he pilled up the engine from ... the cost issue and the condition! just in case we also wanna buy one
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23rd August 2006, 19:34	#18
veyron1 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,424 Thanked: 52 Times View My Garage	Nice review. Like mentioned, your report spells ENTHUSIASM...! I almost choked myself at the Speedrun, when you were redlining the beast. Man, you could give Concorde a run for it's money with that exhaust note. I've heard Lancers, Balenos and City 1.5's WITHOUT any header/manifold, and your baby is LOUDER....! With the headers...! Wonder what she'd sound like without any restriction....
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26th August 2006, 02:57	#22
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,729 Times View My Garage	Thanks for sharing the figs. That is indeed a steal.
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26th August 2006, 04:56	#23
hellspawn Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: noida Posts: 1,686 Thanked: 7 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (10)	great review,thats a beautiful car you have there,especially the part under the hood.you actually did manage quite a steal with the figures you jut gave.i can see a lot of hard work went into the car but you make it sound so easy.kudos to you on a job well done.would love to see the car in action.some more pics please.
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26th August 2006, 13:17	#24
manveet Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,094 Thanked: 732 Times View My Garage	hey dood .. i think that the deal being a steal is not the issue here .. just the fact that you had the *****, not to mention the time and the patience to pull it off is what is REALLY commendable. I mean even though i have a 5L budget, would i have the enthusiasm that you did to go through with the project .. i don't know !! maybe i'd pay 40-50k extra and get someone elso do it for me .. great going !! and keep the faith
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27th August 2006, 01:22	#26
Mugen_Power Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gujarat 03 Posts: 1,302 Thanked: 18 Times	Hey Ford Rocom, Amazing Car.. Thanks For The Figures.. Would Like To Take A Drive.. Cheers, Mugen_Power.
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27th August 2006, 12:56	#27
redrage BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 553 Thanked: 106 Times	amazing .... now thats a truly commendable and worthwhile project.
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27th August 2006, 15:58	#28
veyron1 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,424 Thanked: 52 Times View My Garage	Gives a whole new meaning to the term Value for Money. Thanks a bunch for that TREMENDOUSLY USEFUL info, Rocam. Clears a lot of doubts.....not many would be kind enough to do what you have done. Helps a lot.
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20th September 2006, 21:36	#30
The Wolf Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,118 Thanked: 71 Times	Great download Jitu...appreciate it! Im prolly one of those lucky guys who got to see and feel the car sitting right here in blore when Jitu had come for the speed drag. The car sounded heavenly and every bit of that under the hood view spewed venom!!! Apart from a very modest reaction time I guess Jitu managed a 14.3secs ET for a 1/4th mile...damn bloody good!!! However Im sure that car is capable of going under 14secs...hopefully next time around. Thanks for sharing the experience Jitu...Best of luck with your upcoming project. p.s: Plan to come to mumbai some time soon.....hope to catchup! Last edited by The Wolf : 20th September 2006 at 21:37.
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