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Old 20th December 2020, 18:12   #691
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And I have found Perfinzas better than MC5

Grip, Steering and Brakes: Perfinza > MC5 > Michelin

Ride comfort and Noise levels: Michelin > > MC5 >/= Perfinza
I have not tried perfinzas yet. I was thinking about going back to Continental in future. Perfinza availability is an issue here.
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I have not tried perfinzas yet. I was thinking about going back to Continental in future. Perfinza availability is an issue here.
MC5 is discontinued now and replaced with new UC6. Initial reviews are positive
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And I have found Perfinzas better than MC5

Grip, Steering and Brakes: Perfinza > MC5 > Michelin

Ride comfort and Noise levels: Michelin > > MC5 >/= Perfinza
Seriously! The Perfinza is a leech! Didn't expect it to be better than Michelin or Continental in terms of grip and feel. I'm afraid the car may roll over before the Perfinza losses grip.
The tires have become noisy after 10k kms though. Not complaining! You can't demand the whole world for a competitive price.

Do keep us posted about the Michelins in the long run. For some reason, I was never able to convince myself to get the Michelins. Maybe next time!
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Seriously! The Perfinza is a leech! Didn't expect it to be better than Michelin or Continental in terms of grip and feel. I'm afraid the car may roll over before the Perfinza losses grip.
True!! Perfinzas have really spoilt me for the grip and was cheaper than P4ST too.

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The tires have become noisy after 10k kms though. Not complaining! You can't demand the whole world for a competitive price.
Similar observations!!

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Do keep us posted about the Michelins in the long run. For some reason, I was never able to convince myself to get the Michelins. Maybe next time!
Sure thing. Michelin claims that P4ST has similar performance even when worn out , let's see how it goes. I have noticed Perfinzas and MC5s to become noisy and reduced grip after 75 % of tread wear.
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Old 25th December 2020, 22:42   #695
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Michelin Primacy 4 ST: Feedback after 500 Kms (Comparison with MC5 and Perfinza)

I am happy to report that the performance did improve a lot after run in period. New tyres have some kind of lubricant / chemical coating which could make the steering feel light, reduced grip and braking.

Ride Comfort: Excellent
P4ST > > Perfinza = MC5

Tyre noise: Super silent
P4ST > > Perfinza = MC5

Steering feel: Good
MC5 > Perfinza = P4ST

Grip: Adequate
Perfinza > MC5 > P4ST

Braking: Good
I can't really compare with MC5 as I am running with EBC yellow stuff now. I do have 100-0 timing data for Perfinzas, shall do one soon with P4ST for proper analysis.

Overall: Very satisfied
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Current Setup / List of all Modifications!!

My Maruti S-Cross 1.6L Alpha : Stage 3 Wolf (~200 HP / 420 NM). EDIT : 70,000 km up!-img_20201227_143800.jpg

Performance
Wolf Moto Stage 3 ECU Tune
Blackworks Decat Downpipe
Garrett GTB1549V Turbo Upgrade
Throttle Body Valve Delete

Handling
KYB Dampers
Eibach Progressive Lowering Springs
Michelin Primacy 4ST Tyres - Stock size

Braking
Dixcel Slotted Rotors (F)
EBC Yellow Stuff Pads (F)
EBC Ultimax-2 Pads (R)

ICE

Gladen RS 165 G2 Components
Gladen Alpha 165 Coaxials
Gladen M10 Subwoofer (Sealed Box)
Pioneer GM-A6704 4 Channel Amplifier
Vibromax Damping (4 doors)

Miscellaneous
Bixenon Fog Projectors
Europe S-Cross Front Grill
Rear Spoiler
Machine Finished Alloy Wheels (MGA)
Sport Pedals (MGA)
Illuminated Door Sills (MGA)
3M Satin Black Wrap (A & C pillars)

Total Cost: ~4 Lakhs

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EBC YellowStuff brake pads were the best performing in my car till date. I got life of around 7k Kms, which is normal for my driving.

My plan was to get another set of the same pads along with plain Brembo rotors, not really worth spending a bomb on slotted rotors. I couldn't source them immediately and had to pick up something cheap but decent.

KBX Front Pads : Rs. 900 ( local spare parts shop)

My Maruti S-Cross 1.6L Alpha : Stage 3 Wolf (~200 HP / 420 NM). EDIT : 70,000 km up!-img_20201229_122745.jpg

My Maruti S-Cross 1.6L Alpha : Stage 3 Wolf (~200 HP / 420 NM). EDIT : 70,000 km up!-img_20201229_122847__01.jpg

I hope they are decent, Tata provides them as OE for Harrier.

Installed at FNG: Rs. 250

My Maruti S-Cross 1.6L Alpha : Stage 3 Wolf (~200 HP / 420 NM). EDIT : 70,000 km up!-img_20201229_125510.jpg

The car is doing brilliant. I have few more mods to complete and hopefully not spend anything more .

What Next ?

1. Decent aftermarket HU
2. Garrett Intercooler
3. Exterior detailing

Stay Tuned!!!
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Modified beam was introduced in face-lift S-Cross. Check the rear wheel alignment. If it's out of specs, ask the dealer for warranty replacement.

i have a 2015 s-cross and just read this yesterday. I will be going for a wheel alignment. If possible can you please help with the maximum value beyond which it will need a replacement.
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i have a 2015 s-cross and just read this yesterday. I will be going for a wheel alignment. If possible can you please help with the maximum value beyond which it will need a replacement.
Check the rear toe value. It should be in the range of 02' to 028'.
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Check the rear toe value. It should be in the range of 02' to 028'.
Thank you, Dr. Naren.

I took it to Madhu's to do the check. Reading came as 0.33.

I then went to Kalyani Motors service centre, Bilekahalli, Bangalore as this is where i get my car serviced. I showed them the report and said it was out of range. Also, showed your post of team bhp where you had mentioned that you had got the part replaced under warranty.

They then opened the previous wheel balancing report from their records. The reading was 0.3. But the max tolerance value shown on their system is 0.38. So, they were like since it is within limits they cant replace. But they still continued looking for the warranty claim and they found the service record for your car.
In the service report it was noted as - replaced due to tic tic sound.
Service Advisor along with me went on a test drive to see of if the sound is present. He said, to test for the suspension beam the half car (right or left) should be on level ground and other half should go up the incline and come down. If there is a problem with the suspension beam there will be a metal sound.
The sound was not observed and he asked to me check it and report back if i notice any sound.

Meanwhile i had tweeted Nexa and Kalyani Motors on this matter. Nexa replied asking me to call or mail them. Today morning, an executive from Kalyani Motors had called, listed to the problem and promised me that a call from technical team will be arranged.

From the report, though left toe is beyond range the combine value is still within range. Also, there is no sound. For these 2 reason, i am not sure if i can insist on replacement and also at same time kind of relaxed
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I took it to Madhu's to do the check. Reading came as 0.33.

From the report, though left toe is beyond range the combine value is still within range. Also, there is no sound. For these 2 reason, i am not sure if i can insist on replacement and also at same time kind of relaxed
Good to know . If there is no premature or uneven tyre wear, you need not worry. Do keep an eye on rear toe values.

Cheers!
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Eibach lowering springs: 2000 Kms

My Maruti S-Cross 1.6L Alpha : Stage 3 Wolf (~200 HP / 420 NM). EDIT : 70,000 km up!-img_20210104_141826.jpg

Positives: Stance, Better Handling, Good High Speed Stability, Tighter Steering, Improved Braking

Negatives: Lower GC (Front bumper has taken few minor hits)

Michelin Primacy 4ST: 1000 Kms

My Maruti S-Cross 1.6L Alpha : Stage 3 Wolf (~200 HP / 420 NM). EDIT : 70,000 km up!-img_20210104_142131.jpg

Positives: Super Silent, Comfortable Ride, Life (Hardly any tread wear in 1000 kms)

No negatives as such, tyres did improve a lot after 500 Kms. Grip, braking and steering feel is very decent.. though it's lower than Perfinzas.

KBX Brake Pads: 500 Kms

Positives: Good Initial Bite, Similar braking as OE pads at 1/3rd price, Low Brake Dust

Negatives: Average High Speed Braking, Lot of Brake Fade

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My Maruti S-Cross 1.6L Alpha : Stage 3 Wolf (~200 HP / 420 NM). EDIT : 70,000 km up!-img_20210104_141924.jpg
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My Maruti S-Cross 1.6L Alpha : Stage 3 Wolf (~200 HP / 420 NM). EDIT : 70,000 km up!-img_20201215_173848.jpg

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Try ceramic brake pads from TVS Apache next time. The Hi-Per series is the top of the line ceramic based performance brake pads from TVS Apache.

https://boodmo.com/catalog/part-brak...mbly-39581315/
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Try ceramic brake pads from TVS Apache next time. The Hi-Per series is the top of the line ceramic based performance brake pads from TVS Apache.
Yes, I have bought them already

My Maruti S-Cross 1.6L Alpha : Stage 3 Wolf (~200 HP / 420 NM). EDIT : 70,000 km up!-img_20201231_142751.jpg

My Maruti S-Cross 1.6L Alpha : Stage 3 Wolf (~200 HP / 420 NM). EDIT : 70,000 km up!-img_20201231_142818.jpg

My Maruti S-Cross 1.6L Alpha : Stage 3 Wolf (~200 HP / 420 NM). EDIT : 70,000 km up!-img_20201231_142937.jpg
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