Fiat Palio 1.6 Sport 10,883 kms Report.

moralfibre · 21st May 2007, 14:05

I have made an album with my car pictures here . Will update part 2 of the review tomorrow

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payam · 21st May 2007, 17:57

your tomato looks good kiran,when are you planning to sell it to me?
but seriously guys his tomato is in the very nice condition,it is fast and smooth,after driving his car i decided to change my 1.2.

moralfibre · 21st May 2007, 18:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by payam

your tomato looks good kiran,when are you planning to sell it to me?
but seriously guys his tomato is in the very nice condition,it is fast and smooth,after driving his car i decided to change my 1.2.

Tomato is what you call it. I recently got 10kmpl on 40% highway driving with A/C when I was racing a Honda City 1.5 Exi on my return trip from Bombay. Had fun making him chase me, letting him go and again beating day lights out of his car. Finally got a thumbs up from him

. Was a nice feeling altogether.

payam · 21st May 2007, 18:23

i was sleeping at that time god knows

etchemkay · 21st May 2007, 18:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by moralfibre

Tomato is what you call it. I recently got 10kmpl on 40% highway driving with A/C when I was racing a Honda City 1.5 Exi on my return trip from Bombay. Had fun making him chase me, letting him go and again beating day lights out of his car. Finally got a thumbs up from him

. Was a nice feeling altogether.

moral, you forgot to mention the way you almost squeezed that innova into the left shoulder while going to say hi to your city friend

But, that was some awesome spirited driving in the night. Fun.

Technocrat · 21st May 2007, 18:45

Awesome Spirited Driving at night on Expressway

etchemkay · 21st May 2007, 18:46

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Originally Posted by roms

... I'd say these telephone alloys on the Palio do look hot when in motion, infact they are much better than the S10's alloys.

I agree .. the S10 alloys look too "plain" IMO.

etchemkay · 21st May 2007, 18:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Technocrat

Awesome Spirited Driving at night on Expressway

Spirited but careful .. I was on moral's case all the way to "watch out" ..

moralfibre · 21st May 2007, 18:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by etchemkay

moral, you forgot to mention the way you almost squeezed that innova into the left shoulder while going to say hi to your city friend

But, that was some awesome spirited driving in the night. Fun.

Ohh yes that was eventful. I pulled over to let the City guy go since I was getting kicks to go behind his case everytime I saw him and it was not a good thing to do when you have the responsibility of somebody's life in your car. Finally while passing the food mall closer to Pune I saw him parked so thought of pulling over and saying hi to him but in the excitement was about to crash into the Innova. Sorry etch, I was reckless that time.

I agree spirited driving should have been kept for the day but nevertheless it was fun.

moralfibre · 21st May 2007, 19:47

I will list out a slightly unusual repair work carried out on the car. At around 10,300 kms I heard a very loud metallic noise from the engine bay. I thought it was some major engine issue which has come up and was very very depressed. Decided to add engine oil additive to check if the noise vanishes. Add a can of Bardahl in the engine but no use. Took the car to B.U. Bhandari to get it rectified. They pointed that it was from the timing belt and they will need to inspect and replace whatever they find bad. The car is still luckily under warranty and they ensured that it will be honoured. I had also got myself a can of Mobil 1 since I had crossed approx. 10,600 kms when I went to get the problem rectified:

Here is when Mobil 1 went into the car:

Original Lancia Fiat oil filter (not the Purolator or the one from Fiat India):

Brilliant lubrication:

Now replacing any of the belt components on this car is tad difficult to work on due to a cramped engine bay. I have documented the entire process they followed:

Opened belt cover:

This is the phoning bearing which is at the bottom and requires some serious strength to open and I think a size 21" wrench:

Another view:

The phoning bearing also has the RPM sensor to it.

On the left you see the timing belt tensioner which had gone kaput and needed replacement:

Another view:

Now if you read part # 1 of the report, you'll notice that Jay-Vijay claimed to have replaced the part in warranty but did not replace the timing belt tensioner. They replaced the part that you see in the right which is the AC belt bearing. These parts are imported and cost roughly Rs. 1600/- and Rs. 1200/- I think.

The A/c belt bearing again:

The timing belt tensioner bearing again:

Now before they touch any of the above mentioned parts, they lock your cams and the crank with special tools. Here is a picture of the cams locked:

The internals:

This is the service standard followed, I haven't seen Maruti do this for the Zen nor Hyundai doing this for our Getz:

New belt tensioner bearing:

New A/C belt bearing:

Car being worked upon next to a Beetle and Mustang. My favourite pic:

moralfibre · 21st May 2007, 19:48

End result of Mobil 1. A very low engine load:

This is before Mobil 1 (Notice double load and higher idling):

I was only billed for oil filter and everything else was covered in warranty. Thanks for a nice service experience. They are thorough professionals for carrying out major work!

finneyp · 22nd May 2007, 02:48

Moralfibre,
One of the Best & detailed Reviews I came across on this forum! Cheers!

I envy all the owners of Palio 1.6!
The adrenaline and rush of blood I felt after a drove a 1.6 for the first time was just awesome!
And since then I am just dreaming of that 1.6 Sports Formula Red, but the saddening thought of parting with my Palio 1.2 put me off :(

moralfibre · 22nd May 2007, 19:26

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Originally Posted by finneyp

Moralfibre,
One of the Best & detailed Reviews I came across on this forum! Cheers!

Thanks finney. I am not good at writing although I click a lot of pictures out of focus and paste them here

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Vid6639 · 22nd May 2007, 19:40

Nice review to see such a detailed service report. I need to start taking leave whenever I give my car for servicing as well.

The engine load might have been lower also because the air temperature reduced by 24C.

sithon · 22nd May 2007, 20:28

@ MoralFibre,
What a fantastic and truly passionate review! Seeing your love for the car makes me want to buy the stile 1.6 even more. (dare i say here, as against my other option - Swift Vxi ?! :-D )
Anyway - still waiting for this weekend when the dealer will supposedly be getting a demo car.
Thanks for all the info so far!
Let the romance continue . lol

21st May 2007, 14:05	#46
moralfibre Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MH-12 Posts: 8,451 Thanked: 13,968 Times	I have made an album with my car pictures here . Will update part 2 of the review tomorrow .
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21st May 2007, 17:57	#47
payam BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pune Posts: 924 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	your tomato looks good kiran,when are you planning to sell it to me? but seriously guys his tomato is in the very nice condition,it is fast and smooth,after driving his car i decided to change my 1.2.
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21st May 2007, 18:23	#49
payam BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: pune Posts: 924 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	i was sleeping at that time god knows
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21st May 2007, 18:45	#51
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,700 Times	Awesome Spirited Driving at night on Expressway
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21st May 2007, 19:47	#55
moralfibre Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MH-12 Posts: 8,451 Thanked: 13,968 Times	I will list out a slightly unusual repair work carried out on the car. At around 10,300 kms I heard a very loud metallic noise from the engine bay. I thought it was some major engine issue which has come up and was very very depressed. Decided to add engine oil additive to check if the noise vanishes. Add a can of Bardahl in the engine but no use. Took the car to B.U. Bhandari to get it rectified. They pointed that it was from the timing belt and they will need to inspect and replace whatever they find bad. The car is still luckily under warranty and they ensured that it will be honoured. I had also got myself a can of Mobil 1 since I had crossed approx. 10,600 kms when I went to get the problem rectified: Here is when Mobil 1 went into the car: Original Lancia Fiat oil filter (not the Purolator or the one from Fiat India): Brilliant lubrication: Now replacing any of the belt components on this car is tad difficult to work on due to a cramped engine bay. I have documented the entire process they followed: Opened belt cover: This is the phoning bearing which is at the bottom and requires some serious strength to open and I think a size 21" wrench: Another view: The phoning bearing also has the RPM sensor to it. On the left you see the timing belt tensioner which had gone kaput and needed replacement: Another view: Now if you read part # 1 of the report, you'll notice that Jay-Vijay claimed to have replaced the part in warranty but did not replace the timing belt tensioner. They replaced the part that you see in the right which is the AC belt bearing. These parts are imported and cost roughly Rs. 1600/- and Rs. 1200/- I think. The A/c belt bearing again: The timing belt tensioner bearing again: Now before they touch any of the above mentioned parts, they lock your cams and the crank with special tools. Here is a picture of the cams locked: The internals: This is the service standard followed, I haven't seen Maruti do this for the Zen nor Hyundai doing this for our Getz: New belt tensioner bearing: New A/C belt bearing: Car being worked upon next to a Beetle and Mustang. My favourite pic:
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21st May 2007, 19:48	#56
moralfibre Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MH-12 Posts: 8,451 Thanked: 13,968 Times	End result of Mobil 1. A very low engine load: This is before Mobil 1 (Notice double load and higher idling): I was only billed for oil filter and everything else was covered in warranty. Thanks for a nice service experience. They are thorough professionals for carrying out major work! Last edited by moralfibre : 21st May 2007 at 19:52.
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22nd May 2007, 02:48	#57
finneyp Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,716 Thanked: 319 Times View My Garage	Moralfibre, One of the Best & detailed Reviews I came across on this forum! Cheers! I envy all the owners of Palio 1.6! The adrenaline and rush of blood I felt after a drove a 1.6 for the first time was just awesome! And since then I am just dreaming of that 1.6 Sports Formula Red, but the saddening thought of parting with my Palio 1.2 put me off :(
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22nd May 2007, 19:40	#59
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,728 Thanked: 43,463 Times View My Garage	Nice review to see such a detailed service report. I need to start taking leave whenever I give my car for servicing as well. The engine load might have been lower also because the air temperature reduced by 24C.
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22nd May 2007, 20:28	#60
sithon BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 70 Thanked: 0 Times	@ MoralFibre, What a fantastic and truly passionate review! Seeing your love for the car makes me want to buy the stile 1.6 even more. (dare i say here, as against my other option - Swift Vxi ?! :-D ) Anyway - still waiting for this weekend when the dealer will supposedly be getting a demo car. Thanks for all the info so far! Let the romance continue . lol
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