The First Grand Vitara on Team-BHP

Torqy · 29th September 2016, 11:41

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Originally Posted by Samurai

As I said before, found it from Tejas's thread. It is on snapdeal.

Since i don't have a Grand Vitara, i could only steal the Reverse Umbrella idea.
Ordered the same.

-- Torqy

Samurai · 29th September 2016, 11:50

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Originally Posted by Torqy

Since i don't have a Grand Vitara, i could only steal the Reverse Umbrella idea.
Ordered the same.

You can install TPMS on any car.

Yesterday afternoon I had carefully managed fill all tyres with 31psi. When I took off at night, only LF showed 31, rest showed 29psi. Today morning only RR is showing 29, and rest are back at 31psi. Now I am wondering how accurate is this thing...

Torqy · 29th September 2016, 15:20

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Originally Posted by Samurai

You can install TPMS on any car.

Yesterday afternoon I had carefully managed fill all tyres with 31psi. When I took off at night, only LF showed 31, rest showed 29psi. Today morning only RR is showing 29, and rest are back at 31psi. Now I am wondering how accurate is this thing...

I had read these to be more accurate and reliable than internal sensors. But 6% error seems to be on the higher side. If it's not difficult to remove / install maybe you can check with a normal pressure gauge.

Samurai · 30th September 2016, 20:36

Now I am getting some idea about this. It shows 31 on all tyres during the day time. When I take off at night, it is pretty cool, it shows 29 on all tyres. It is back to 31 by 11am. Today I drove 20kms, the pressure went to 32. Generally my commute is about a km.

ManuKohli · 5th October 2016, 14:54

Hi to all the members on this thread.
I have been following your thread for a while now as I have had a love for Grand Vitaras for a long time and FINALLY got myself a silver 2008 MT 2.0 with 50k on the odo. New Tyres, new battery and a very clean vehicle that belonged to a friend of a friend.
A special thanks to Sudevji who I contacted and got his advice and help when I was checking out the prospective buy.

I will post pictures soon of my new love.
A BIG question as of now - most posts I saw of 2.0 MT earlier stated a FE of 8-10 in the city. Mine is giving only 6.8. That too with a very light foot on the accelerator and all my attempts to keep the rpm and gear shifting as required. It has 235/70 Tyres so I assume I am losing about .5 km because of that. I took my GV to Motorsport in Noida and Rahul drove it and got it checked at the pit. He says its in pristine condition and a good purchase.

What advise would you folks give on what I should look for / fix to come up to around 9km.

vigsom · 5th October 2016, 20:28

^^ Manu,

Both of us have/have had a Corolla and a GV.Welcome to the GV club

As far as FE goes , you can't do much except clean the plugs and set the gap to 1.1mm.

Why don't you reset the FE average by pressing and holding the button for a few secs.The meter will start calculating the FE basis your driving habits and traffic conditions

ManuKohli · 5th October 2016, 23:22

Vigsom

Thanks for your input.

As for resetting the meter - done that. It shows at 6.7

Have been wondering if I should get the iridium plugs everyone talks about. Called ngk dealer in Delhi today, but he did not seem to have the irridiums.

Am going to check with another source tomorrow to see if he can arrange them.

Do you think the irridiums will help?

sridhar-v · 6th October 2016, 08:45

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Originally Posted by ManuKohli

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Have been wondering if I should get the iridium plugs everyone talks about. Called ngk dealer in Delhi today, but he did not seem to have the irridiums.
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Do you think the irridiums will help?

I have a 2007 AT. I changed to Iridium sparks last October. I also had the throttle body cleaned and changed all oils & fluids, along with the air filter. I used the standard paper type air filter.

Fuel average has improved by 1kmpl. Driveability has improved substantially, particularly at low speeds. I get an average of 7-8 kmpl in city. Though my city drives are short and do not involve bumper to bumper traffic. Off-roading, bad roading and hill drives gives between 7-9 kmpl.

You should definitely get about 8-9 in the city. But the 2L engine does not like inching in traffic so it is a trade-off.

spgv · 7th October 2016, 09:14

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Originally Posted by ManuKohli

........FINALLY got myself a silver 2008 MT 2.0 with 50k on the odo...

Congratulations on your purchase. I got my GV in June this year, 2. MT done 1 lakh on odo. The FE is 6.6 on crowded Mumbai roads and 10 something on highway (AC on). I think this is normal for GV.

ManuKohli · 7th October 2016, 13:35

Spgv. Thanks

Sridhar - the irridiums mentioned by someone on a post earlier were ngk IFR5J11 but the only ones the ngk authorized dealer in Delhi has for the GV are BKR6EIX-11
I even checked NGK India website and they mention the BKR6EIX-11 as irridiums for GV.
Do you have any idea about this?

sridhar-v · 8th October 2016, 07:17

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Originally Posted by ManuKohli

Spgv. Thanks

Sridhar - the irridiums mentioned by someone on a post earlier were ngk IFR5J11 but the only ones the ngk authorized dealer in Delhi has for the GV are BKR6EIX-11
I even checked NGK India website and they mention the BKR6EIX-11 as irridiums for GV.
Do you have any idea about this?

From what I remember the 5 series of plugs run cooler than the 6 series.
In the printed owner's manual for my GV IFR5J11 is recommended, though online manuals recommend the IFR6J11 . BKR6EIX-11 seems to be the nomenclature for the new models of 6 heat range irridiums.

As the engine bay is pretty crowded, I have noticed that temperature there is higher than in my other cars. So I am happy with the cooler running plugs. Besides we do not get snow and ice down here in the Deccan plateau

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You can order the plugs through the retails sales counters of Maruti.

vigsom · 9th October 2016, 08:52

^^ Sridhar San,

In the case of Bosch and Champion, a higher number means a hotter plug.

In NGK , a lower number means a hotter plug.

IFR5J11 is the recommended plug for the 2.0GV.That may be because the GV generally runs in colder weather worldwide.Pune sees moderate climate at least 9 months in a year so it is fine.

I think ManuKohli should be fine even with the 6E-11 plug.

sridhar-v · 9th October 2016, 09:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by vigsom

^^ Sridhar San,

In the case of Bosch and Champion, a higher number means a hotter plug.

In NGK , a lower number means a hotter plug.

IFR5J11 is the recommended plug for the 2.0GV.That may be because the GV generally runs in colder weather worldwide.Pune sees moderate climate at least 9 months in a year so it is fine.

I think ManuKohli should be fine even with the 6E-11 plug.

I stand corrected. Thanks.

Then actually the 6 heat range should be ideal for Pune. Will change it next time sparks are due for change - 40K kms hence.

Would be interested in seeing how the 6 heat range plugs stand up in the Delhi cold.

tsk1979 · 9th October 2016, 19:10

I don't think heat range depends upon ambient temp. Spark plug heat range should be chose based on the engine characteristics, and only modified if you are modifying them. So if you advance the ignition timing, change air fuel mixture etc., go for a different heat range.

Samurai · 3rd November 2016, 10:02

My Grand Vitara completes 9 years today, has clocked around 113,000kms. Still in great shape, I don't have any plans for replacement for the next 4-5 years. It feels that good to drive. Now it has new shoes too, the Michelin LTX AT2. This is the 4th set of tyres it has.

This is the recent service bill at 108,000kms. Most of it is synthetic oil cost.

30th September 2016, 20:36	#874
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 25,813 Thanked: 45,435 Times View My Garage	re: The First Grand Vitara on Team-BHP [113000 KMs & 9 Years] Now I am getting some idea about this. It shows 31 on all tyres during the day time. When I take off at night, it is pretty cool, it shows 29 on all tyres. It is back to 31 by 11am. Today I drove 20kms, the pressure went to 32. Generally my commute is about a km.
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5th October 2016, 14:54	#875
ManuKohli Newbie Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: New Delhi Posts: 10 Thanked: 7 Times	re: The First Grand Vitara on Team-BHP [113000 KMs & 9 Years] Hi to all the members on this thread. I have been following your thread for a while now as I have had a love for Grand Vitaras for a long time and FINALLY got myself a silver 2008 MT 2.0 with 50k on the odo. New Tyres, new battery and a very clean vehicle that belonged to a friend of a friend. A special thanks to Sudevji who I contacted and got his advice and help when I was checking out the prospective buy. I will post pictures soon of my new love. A BIG question as of now - most posts I saw of 2.0 MT earlier stated a FE of 8-10 in the city. Mine is giving only 6.8. That too with a very light foot on the accelerator and all my attempts to keep the rpm and gear shifting as required. It has 235/70 Tyres so I assume I am losing about .5 km because of that. I took my GV to Motorsport in Noida and Rahul drove it and got it checked at the pit. He says its in pristine condition and a good purchase. What advise would you folks give on what I should look for / fix to come up to around 9km.
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5th October 2016, 20:28	#876
vigsom Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NSEW Posts: 3,759 Thanked: 25,459 Times	re: The First Grand Vitara on Team-BHP [113000 KMs & 9 Years] ^^ Manu, Both of us have/have had a Corolla and a GV.Welcome to the GV club As far as FE goes , you can't do much except clean the plugs and set the gap to 1.1mm. Why don't you reset the FE average by pressing and holding the button for a few secs.The meter will start calculating the FE basis your driving habits and traffic conditions
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5th October 2016, 23:22	#877
ManuKohli Newbie Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: New Delhi Posts: 10 Thanked: 7 Times	re: The First Grand Vitara on Team-BHP [113000 KMs & 9 Years] Vigsom Thanks for your input. As for resetting the meter - done that. It shows at 6.7 Have been wondering if I should get the iridium plugs everyone talks about. Called ngk dealer in Delhi today, but he did not seem to have the irridiums. Am going to check with another source tomorrow to see if he can arrange them. Do you think the irridiums will help?
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7th October 2016, 13:35	#880
ManuKohli Newbie Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: New Delhi Posts: 10 Thanked: 7 Times	re: The First Grand Vitara on Team-BHP [113000 KMs & 9 Years] Spgv. Thanks Sridhar - the irridiums mentioned by someone on a post earlier were ngk IFR5J11 but the only ones the ngk authorized dealer in Delhi has for the GV are BKR6EIX-11 I even checked NGK India website and they mention the BKR6EIX-11 as irridiums for GV. Do you have any idea about this? Last edited by ManuKohli : 7th October 2016 at 14:02.
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9th October 2016, 08:52	#882
vigsom Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NSEW Posts: 3,759 Thanked: 25,459 Times	re: The First Grand Vitara on Team-BHP [113000 KMs & 9 Years] ^^ Sridhar San, In the case of Bosch and Champion, a higher number means a hotter plug. In NGK , a lower number means a hotter plug. IFR5J11 is the recommended plug for the 2.0GV.That may be because the GV generally runs in colder weather worldwide.Pune sees moderate climate at least 9 months in a year so it is fine. I think ManuKohli should be fine even with the 6E-11 plug.
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9th October 2016, 19:10	#884
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,812 Times View My Garage	re: The First Grand Vitara on Team-BHP [113000 KMs & 9 Years] I don't think heat range depends upon ambient temp. Spark plug heat range should be chose based on the engine characteristics, and only modified if you are modifying them. So if you advance the ignition timing, change air fuel mixture etc., go for a different heat range.
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3rd November 2016, 10:02	#885
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 25,813 Thanked: 45,435 Times View My Garage	re: The First Grand Vitara on Team-BHP [14 years & 150000kms] My Grand Vitara completes 9 years today, has clocked around 113,000kms. Still in great shape, I don't have any plans for replacement for the next 4-5 years. It feels that good to drive. Now it has new shoes too, the Michelin LTX AT2. This is the 4th set of tyres it has. This is the recent service bill at 108,000kms. Most of it is synthetic oil cost.
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