Swift Lxi -performance service at 17600 km

cyneverdie · 20th February 2008, 22:56

hey guys ,

finally got my K&N oil filter yesterday.
tried shah and sanghi [?] today courtsy n1.

total bill was 15100 rs excluding the
oil-ows + oil filter-K&N + oil flush-ows + radiator flush-tectaloy = 15,100 + 5200 = 20 300 rs

new front brake pads + bleeding and new fluid
plus 2300 rs ac service
the works
will post the bill up later via a friends scanner

cars running super fine - haven't stepped on it yet though -god damn tired [did it today] + new brake pads to be nursed for a bit

used

used BG Air Intake System Cleaner for the first time its killa : my exhaust was smoking ! !

BG Company

very disappointed with the staff as usual [think its india's thing] {with very very few exceptions} . Corrected what he was doing 6 times !! !!
Didnt leave my car alone for a min , was on my feet for 7 ish hours

plus got it super cleaned by the 3 M detailers too at a good price

the works and still i could have easily spent and done more.
Update later.
cheers

jkdas · 20th February 2008, 23:08

Wow! killer service bill!

What does the BG do ? Is it really worth? And how much? Does this apply for diesels?

cyneverdie · 20th February 2008, 23:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkdas

Wow! killer service bill!

What does the BG do ? Is it really worth? And how much? Does this apply for diesels?

check out the site man.
Diesels have TB's [ throttle bodies ] dont they : ]

PS : I cant afford **** yeah , it was paid for by me mum through an office. Its our office car . [ before i get accused of boasting or some bull like that ]

TLC - my car like it man. Besides this was long overdue [ not according to maruti but according to me man ]

cheers

ported_head · 20th February 2008, 23:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyneverdie

Diesels have TB's [ throttle bodies ] dont they

No they don't.

What was the cost for new brake pads and labour for same?

cyneverdie · 20th February 2008, 23:20

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Originally Posted by ported_head

No they don't.

What was the cost for new brake pads and labour for same?

please?

pads 2100 +tax + labour
should see me old pads ,have them ,dont have a digicam

PS: my drums were fine !! handbrake and all yet regret not changing them thats cheap

cyneverdie · 21st February 2008, 01:13

Have to say it was disgusting how they treat cars over there . If you got the love and some time NEVER NEVER EVER rely upon maruti to treat your car well.You HAVE to be there.

I saw sick things , even done to a merc c class , no sense of good workmanship at all. Poor guys though - the workers - they dont have **** and they have no way out. :[
damn

cyneverdie · 21st February 2008, 03:18

so : put in the ows plugs 4000 km back . Got them gapped by Team FS to 1.1 mm as per JD Madan's advice. I presumed FS [ fahad ] had a machine to gap them , but he did it by hand - something scary for me to watch : in fact i actually looked away as i couldn't stand watching that. Too crude.

Saw my plugs today and man they didnt look great at all. Did the decarb etc on new stock plugs which got raped by the decarb by the way. Than put my OWS plugs back in .

Have to say bad gapping was real bad for the plugs and shah & sanghi didnt even have a damn machine to gap them. The thing with OWS is that it is a dual tip design so i presume if the sparks are not perfectly meeting the "plasma arc " which is supposed to be formed just doesnt happen ,hence making the plugs not worthy.

For the swift the gap is supposed to be .8-.9 mm the ows plugs come gapped at .8 , NGK comes gapped at 1.1 !!

I wanna stay with OWS need to find out if any of the OWS plugs which can fit in the swift are gapped at 1.1 or even 1 mm?? Will call chennai soon but anyone out there can help me?

Or else i will just go to NGK cant afford anything for some time {6000 out of my pocket today} so i am harrowed as the speedwork's guys advice didnt help me in fact it raped my plugs !

Feel let down by them and by fahad too for a shoddy job.
will posts pics maybe sometime too.
Got OWS 360 gas treatment after my service its real good and i hope it cleans my plugs up a bit too. Did try to re gap them myself so that the spark points were in line with each other but will soon see how that feels.

In fact i am outta here just ate and had a beer i am gonna hit the roads alone [ all worthy friends pre occupied ] for a bit see how she feels.
If i rambled sorry but i am broke and harrowed and let down.
cheers people
update later

PS :shah and sanghi use 4 seasons old "refurbished" equipment ,just found that out today.Bad scene.
Any one got a good contact at Navnit ? Wanna try them next bought my car from them.

cyneverdie · 21st February 2008, 17:41

Have to say that Shah and sanghi [?] are expensive when it comes to labour but considering the work done = Rs 15 100 including a 2750 Ac service and front brake pad set was very worth it car feels great.

For the first time yesterday got my engine valves adjustment done , very crude stuff they just shoved those thin pieces of metal {with proper gauged thickness} around my cams and claimed that it was fine.

Want a second opinion and i actually thought that the oil had to be drained out of your car in order for the valve s to be adjusted but thats wrong.
Had made a thread on valve adjustment long time ago but nobody helped me.

Also i found out that the swift and the esteem both dont have a cabin air filter or pollen filter as some call it. Is that true?
Bosch make good advanced cabin air filters with carbon , that sounds great.
Need a swift petrol workshop manual trying a few sources can anyone help me out , will happily pay for it , thats good reading.

BUSA · 21st February 2008, 21:04

What all was done that the bill came to 17600, you dont treat your car well or what that it required so many changes or you drive around at full throttle?

cyneverdie · 21st February 2008, 22:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUSA

What all was done that the bill came to 17600, you dont treat your car well or what that it required so many changes or you drive around at full throttle?

rs 15 100 read the 1 st post properly. check out your manual see what is required at 20 000 km and see what you did for your service man alot of labour you missed .Bill coming up soon

cyneverdie · 21st February 2008, 22:59

cyneverdie · 21st February 2008, 23:05

total bill was 15100 rs excluding the
oil-ows + oil filter-K&N + oil flush-ows + radiator flush-tectaloy = 15,100 + 5200 = 20 300 rs
+
OWS 360 Rs 599 for me poor plugs

Busa : drive at full throttle whenever i can man but i know i treat it well, think thats proven with this service bill . Peace man

BUSA · 21st February 2008, 23:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyneverdie

rs 15 100 read the 1 st post properly. check out your manual see what is required at 20 000 km and see what you did for your service man alot of labour you missed .Bill coming up soon

Please post the bill, 15100 seems way to high for a 20k kms service for a car costing 4Lacs.

Edit - Saw the bill.

Why was brake pads required to be changed? You brake very hard?

cyneverdie · 21st February 2008, 23:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUSA

Please post the bill, 15100 seems way to high for a 15k kms service for a car costing 4Lacs.

posted it already !! 17600 km service with the maruti check list for the 20 000 km service. Do read carefully you already have given me 2 figures which i dont know where you got from

cyneverdie · 21st February 2008, 23:18

No body wax , no side mirrors [ mine 1 stolen the 2nd broken by a slave merc driver ]
no outside washing either rather take care of that myself on a COLD car

no under bumper lining replacement [ to save cash get it done meself ]

only regret is not changing rear brake lining - well soon cometh

this was your bill BUSA

The bill consisted of the following : -

Diesel Treatment (Aka 244 Diesel) - Rs. 500
Paid Service - 700
Wheel R&R - 60
Disc Brakes Cleaning - 480
Brake Bleeding - 300
Radiator Flushing - 170
Door Switch Assy R&R - 300
Brake Fluid - 275
Gear Oil 75W90 - Rs. 632
2 x Coolant non Amine - Rs. 417
2 x Ring Synchroniser - 0(under warranty)
Misc - 50
Clip, FR Fender Lining - W

Total - 4328(Which doesnot include engine oil)
Imagine if change of brake pads were required

20th February 2008, 22:56	#1
cyneverdie BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: bombay Posts: 440 Thanked: 6 Times	Swift Lxi -performance service at 17600 km hey guys , finally got my K&N oil filter yesterday. tried shah and sanghi [?] today courtsy n1. total bill was 15100 rs excluding the oil-ows + oil filter-K&N + oil flush-ows + radiator flush-tectaloy = 15,100 + 5200 = 20 300 rs new front brake pads + bleeding and new fluid plus 2300 rs ac service the works will post the bill up later via a friends scanner cars running super fine - haven't stepped on it yet though -god damn tired [did it today] + new brake pads to be nursed for a bit used used BG Air Intake System Cleaner for the first time its killa : my exhaust was smoking ! ! BG Company very disappointed with the staff as usual [think its india's thing] {with very very few exceptions} . Corrected what he was doing 6 times !! !! Didnt leave my car alone for a min , was on my feet for 7 ish hours plus got it super cleaned by the 3 M detailers too at a good price the works and still i could have easily spent and done more. Update later. cheers
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20th February 2008, 23:08	#2
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	Wow! killer service bill! What does the BG do ? Is it really worth? And how much? Does this apply for diesels?
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21st February 2008, 01:13	#6
cyneverdie BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: bombay Posts: 440 Thanked: 6 Times	Have to say it was disgusting how they treat cars over there . If you got the love and some time NEVER NEVER EVER rely upon maruti to treat your car well.You HAVE to be there. I saw sick things , even done to a merc c class , no sense of good workmanship at all. Poor guys though - the workers - they dont have **** and they have no way out. :[ damn
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21st February 2008, 03:18	#7
cyneverdie BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: bombay Posts: 440 Thanked: 6 Times	so : put in the ows plugs 4000 km back . Got them gapped by Team FS to 1.1 mm as per JD Madan's advice. I presumed FS [ fahad ] had a machine to gap them , but he did it by hand - something scary for me to watch : in fact i actually looked away as i couldn't stand watching that. Too crude. Saw my plugs today and man they didnt look great at all. Did the decarb etc on new stock plugs which got raped by the decarb by the way. Than put my OWS plugs back in . Have to say bad gapping was real bad for the plugs and shah & sanghi didnt even have a damn machine to gap them. The thing with OWS is that it is a dual tip design so i presume if the sparks are not perfectly meeting the "plasma arc " which is supposed to be formed just doesnt happen ,hence making the plugs not worthy. For the swift the gap is supposed to be .8-.9 mm the ows plugs come gapped at .8 , NGK comes gapped at 1.1 !! I wanna stay with OWS need to find out if any of the OWS plugs which can fit in the swift are gapped at 1.1 or even 1 mm?? Will call chennai soon but anyone out there can help me? Or else i will just go to NGK cant afford anything for some time {6000 out of my pocket today} so i am harrowed as the speedwork's guys advice didnt help me in fact it raped my plugs ! Feel let down by them and by fahad too for a shoddy job. will posts pics maybe sometime too. Got OWS 360 gas treatment after my service its real good and i hope it cleans my plugs up a bit too. Did try to re gap them myself so that the spark points were in line with each other but will soon see how that feels. In fact i am outta here just ate and had a beer i am gonna hit the roads alone [ all worthy friends pre occupied ] for a bit see how she feels. If i rambled sorry but i am broke and harrowed and let down. cheers people update later PS :shah and sanghi use 4 seasons old "refurbished" equipment ,just found that out today.Bad scene. Any one got a good contact at Navnit ? Wanna try them next bought my car from them.
	() Thanks

21st February 2008, 17:41	#8
cyneverdie BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: bombay Posts: 440 Thanked: 6 Times	Have to say that Shah and sanghi [?] are expensive when it comes to labour but considering the work done = Rs 15 100 including a 2750 Ac service and front brake pad set was very worth it car feels great. For the first time yesterday got my engine valves adjustment done , very crude stuff they just shoved those thin pieces of metal {with proper gauged thickness} around my cams and claimed that it was fine. Want a second opinion and i actually thought that the oil had to be drained out of your car in order for the valve s to be adjusted but thats wrong. Had made a thread on valve adjustment long time ago but nobody helped me. Also i found out that the swift and the esteem both dont have a cabin air filter or pollen filter as some call it. Is that true? Bosch make good advanced cabin air filters with carbon , that sounds great. Need a swift petrol workshop manual trying a few sources can anyone help me out , will happily pay for it , thats good reading. Last edited by cyneverdie : 21st February 2008 at 17:49.
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21st February 2008, 21:04	#9
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	What all was done that the bill came to 17600, you dont treat your car well or what that it required so many changes or you drive around at full throttle?
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21st February 2008, 22:59	#11
cyneverdie BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: bombay Posts: 440 Thanked: 6 Times	Last edited by cyneverdie : 21st February 2008 at 23:03.
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21st February 2008, 23:05	#12
cyneverdie BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: bombay Posts: 440 Thanked: 6 Times	total bill was 15100 rs excluding the oil-ows + oil filter-K&N + oil flush-ows + radiator flush-tectaloy = 15,100 + 5200 = 20 300 rs + OWS 360 Rs 599 for me poor plugs Busa : drive at full throttle whenever i can man but i know i treat it well, think thats proven with this service bill . Peace man Last edited by cyneverdie : 21st February 2008 at 23:10.
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21st February 2008, 23:18	#15
cyneverdie BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: bombay Posts: 440 Thanked: 6 Times	No body wax , no side mirrors [ mine 1 stolen the 2nd broken by a slave merc driver ] no outside washing either rather take care of that myself on a COLD car no under bumper lining replacement [ to save cash get it done meself ] only regret is not changing rear brake lining - well soon cometh this was your bill BUSA The bill consisted of the following : - Diesel Treatment (Aka 244 Diesel) - Rs. 500 Paid Service - 700 Wheel R&R - 60 Disc Brakes Cleaning - 480 Brake Bleeding - 300 Radiator Flushing - 170 Door Switch Assy R&R - 300 Brake Fluid - 275 Gear Oil 75W90 - Rs. 632 2 x Coolant non Amine - Rs. 417 2 x Ring Synchroniser - 0(under warranty) Misc - 50 Clip, FR Fender Lining - W Total - 4328(Which doesnot include engine oil) Imagine if change of brake pads were required Last edited by cyneverdie : 21st February 2008 at 23:20.
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