The Ultimate Safari Dicor 2.2VTT Reliability Poll

HappyWheels · 24th March 2009, 12:00

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Originally Posted by gowda79

... i hope even you love yours with small or big niggles.

Quite evident; you will find a "probable" cause being identified as a "2 minutes job" in an other thread!

tsk1979 · 24th March 2009, 12:00

I think anup meant that even if you love your vehicle, you should admit that there were niggles, not that you should not love your vehicle due to niggles.
His LOL was that even if you vote on minor niggles, it does not mean that you do not love your vehicle

anupmathur · 24th March 2009, 12:01

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Originally Posted by gowda79

Anupji that's Love for the Safari. there is nothing to laugh on this we love our vehicle and i hope even you love yours with small or big niggles.

Raghu, that is exactly what I said: You can love your car WITH all the niggles.

But why vote "no issues"?! Makes a mockery of the poll by redefining standard terms.
I hope this makes sense!

gowda79 · 24th March 2009, 12:51

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Originally Posted by anupmathur

Raghu, that is exactly what I said: You can love your car WITH all the niggles.

But why vote "no issues"?! Makes a mockery of the poll by redefining standard terms.
I hope this makes sense!

Anupji no offense meant,.

It depends on the Owner to call it a issue or no issue.

kb100 · 24th March 2009, 13:05

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Originally Posted by gowda79

It depends on the Owner to call it a issue or no issue.

.. but - NOT on a poll !

A poll can happen ONLY with very clear predefined definitions!

gowda79 · 24th March 2009, 13:31

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Originally Posted by kb100

.. but - NOT on a poll !

KB this poll has become like a False Voting by non owners, when you are able to accept those polls why cannot this be taken into account when a owner says no issue for him.

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Originally Posted by Zenx

Safari owners please, please vote based on your experience.

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Originally Posted by kb100

A poll can happen ONLY with very clear predefined definitions!

It is owners choice purely as mentioned by the Thread opener, so we need to accept the owners take on this and i hope was able to convince all.

tsk1979 · 24th March 2009, 13:36

Poll Rigging..? The poll is public, you can see who voted. There are a few false votes, no deliberate rigging!
As for voting, minor issues are called niggles. Thats why that option is there.

gowda79 · 24th March 2009, 13:50

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Originally Posted by zenx

Safari owners please, please vote based on your experience. Explaining the options:

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Originally Posted by tsk1979

Poll Rigging..? The poll is public, you can see who voted. There are a few false votes, no deliberate rigging!
As for voting, minor issues are called niggles. Thats why that option is there.

Tanveer i understand that as per the owner he has given the details and explained after that he has not faced any problems after that, niggles are that these things happen to him from time to time.

The owner(Sun) is happy now with the vehicle and he is not facing anymore problems from the vehicle and hence he has voted for No Issues.

But for me i get rattling sounds and had been to service station for rectifying it more than once for the same issue and i have voted as Small Niggles.

It is totally Owners Wish

anupmathur · 24th March 2009, 14:27

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Originally Posted by gowda79

But for me i get rattling sounds and had been to service station for rectifying it more than once for the same issue and i have voted as Small Niggles.

It is totally Owners Wish

Raghu, alas, I cannot agree here!
The poll is being subverted if each owner is allowed to apply his own definitions!
What YOU did was right. Small niggles.
Else how do you differentiate niggles from no issues?

Theoretically, Tanveer can vote that he had no issues! Whatever happened was perfectly OK as far as HE is concerned!
Does that sound right?

kb100 · 24th March 2009, 14:46

Gowda

Niggles etc, as defined by the thread starter, are things that have happened to the vehicle - AND NOT what one feels about it!

Please read the opening post as a whole - and not sentences in isolation. There is ALWAYS a reference to context!

Like Anup pointed out - one can't (for example) have the entire engine replaced and call it 'Zero Niggles'. (..the owner is however free to FEEL so

)

And don't be sooo touchy about anything Safari related.

Most of us on this thread already have the vehicle - or are considering it actively!

zenx · 24th March 2009, 14:51

I kinda agree with the idea of "no issues" really being "no issues" and not open to interpretation

Sure, the poll choices may not cover all the fine grained nuances that may exist in real experiences - but I'm hoping it will still help the poll be objective enough. From a quick check, it does not seem that most votes have been "interpretations" so far, and the results are by and large indicative enough to be of value.

hrag · 24th March 2009, 14:55

A king should always have issues - to continue the royal line.

zenx · 24th March 2009, 15:01

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Originally Posted by hrag

A king should always have issues - to continue the royal line.

I bow before thee, wise one

(totally rocks)

gowda79 · 24th March 2009, 15:33

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Originally Posted by hrag

A king should always have issues - to continue the royal line.

The King needs to come through little issues to claim new territories.

esteem_lover · 24th March 2009, 16:35

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Originally Posted by zenx

Oops, let's avoid this becoming a battleground, please. Intent is to create and keep going some data points for future buyers.

The name safari & fiat in any thread is enough to create that atmosphere. Thats Team-BHP. LOL

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Originally Posted by gowda79

The King needs to come through little issues to claim new territories.

He also needs new issues to carry forward his legacy.

P.S. I know I have not contributed anything to this thread.

View Poll Results: How's your Dicor 2.2VTT ownership been (see 1st post for explanation)
No Issues	25	26.32%
Minor Niggles	50	52.63%
Major Issues	10	10.53%
What a pain	10	10.53%
Voters: 95. You may not vote on this poll

24th March 2009, 12:00	#92
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	I think anup meant that even if you love your vehicle, you should admit that there were niggles, not that you should not love your vehicle due to niggles. His LOL was that even if you vote on minor niggles, it does not mean that you do not love your vehicle
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24th March 2009, 13:36	#97
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	Poll Rigging..? The poll is public, you can see who voted. There are a few false votes, no deliberate rigging! As for voting, minor issues are called niggles. Thats why that option is there.
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24th March 2009, 14:46	#100
kb100 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangy Boy! Posts: 1,555 Thanked: 21 Times	Gowda Niggles etc, as defined by the thread starter, are things that have happened to the vehicle - AND NOT what one feels about it! Please read the opening post as a whole - and not sentences in isolation. There is ALWAYS a reference to context! Like Anup pointed out - one can't (for example) have the entire engine replaced and call it 'Zero Niggles'. (..the owner is however free to FEEL so) And don't be sooo touchy about anything Safari related. Most of us on this thread already have the vehicle - or are considering it actively! Last edited by kb100 : 24th March 2009 at 14:50.
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24th March 2009, 14:51	#101
zenx Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,161 Thanked: 158 Times View My Garage	I kinda agree with the idea of "no issues" really being "no issues" and not open to interpretation Sure, the poll choices may not cover all the fine grained nuances that may exist in real experiences - but I'm hoping it will still help the poll be objective enough. From a quick check, it does not seem that most votes have been "interpretations" so far, and the results are by and large indicative enough to be of value.
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24th March 2009, 14:55	#102
hrag BANNED Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bangalore / Madras Posts: 1,982 Thanked: 31 Times	A king should always have issues - to continue the royal line.
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