My Ford Endeavour 3.0L AT 4x4

4x4addict · 19th August 2010, 23:51

@sameer: I feel that it is okay to try out these things on a Bolero. But in a powerful vehicle like the Endy, I wouldn't take this risk. Just imagine the leaf springs snaps at high speed, you will loose control. I know they guarantee etc, but still, it's made in a local shop.

sameer_tangri · 20th August 2010, 10:11

@4x4addict, thanks for pointing that out.
So I guess that this should not be done unless there are some verified and proven results. I have a friend here in Pune with whom I'm gonna discuss this in detail and will post the details here.

He is an auto-enthusiast but is horrible with computers. I am trying to get him to join TBHP also... :-)

siddheshb · 25th August 2010, 18:01

Sameer, no, I haven't thought of the Leaf Springs, because 7000 km and a lot of on and off roading later, I realise the ride quality is actually pretty good as long as you know to avoid those particular kinda speed bumps

Just go a little low on the tire pressure, and life's good!

sameer_tangri · 30th August 2010, 17:31

Siddhesh, What is the recommended Tyre Pressure and what do you keep it at? Also, doesn't this affect the suspension?

siddheshb · 3rd September 2010, 23:18

Sameer, I believe the recommended is around 40, but I run it typically around 32 to 30. I don't think it hurts the suspension, but of course, it might increase consumption a little bit. In fact, for extreme off roading, it's recommended you run low pressure.

siddheshb · 15th September 2010, 10:07

Up the stairs...

My Ford Endeavour 3.0L AT 4x4-stairs.jpg

Godfather · 15th September 2010, 13:22

Lol.. thats a nice pic of the endy going up the stairs.. i am getting delivery of my new endy AT tomorrow evening. color white.

Goddy

I have a question for you,

when i asked the sales person about maintainence cost of the vehicle, he did mention that the second or 3rd service would come up to around 15,000. but in one of the posts i read the cost was 2500 or something.

could you please clarify on this. also what was the mileage you got on the highways?

sameer_tangri · 16th September 2010, 09:53

Siddhesh,
Great photo! :-) Where did you do this?

I have another question for you...Ford has launched the 4x2 AT version also and this is about 1 and a half lac cheaper than the 4x4 AT. All other specs remain the same from what I have read. So tell me....where and when do you use the 4H or 4L modes?

I am in two minds whether to go for 4x4 or 4x2. Your answers would help in making the final decision.

Regards,
Sameer.

Akshay1234 · 16th September 2010, 14:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by sameer_tangri

I am in two minds whether to go for 4x4 or 4x2. Your answers would help in making the final decision.

Regards,
Sameer.

There are about 5-6 differences in the 4x2 Auto Endy

4wd
Limited slip differential
Curtain Airbags
Satellite Navigation
Reverse Camera
Bluetooth connectivity

These are missing in the 4x2.

siddheshb · 18th September 2010, 23:22

Sameer/Kedar, yes, this is in Goa, a place we call Zoo Zoo Hill... north of Anjuna beach. Awesome place for some simple off roading. This is an incomplete hotel complex that was abandoned due to legal/other troubles.

Sameer, the 4WD is absolutely necessary for any real offroading - and the 1.5L price difference is so totally worth it.

HillBilly · 19th September 2010, 09:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godfather

could you please clarify on this. also what was the mileage you got on the highways?

I have been driving the 4x4 AT for the last 10 months now and its inching towards the 15,000 Km mark.

Highway average is approx 10.5 to 11 kmpl. Its really difficult to drive this car slow on the highway as it is fantastic and stays stable even at 140 kmph ;-) . FYI, it shifts to 5th gear at about 90kmph on the speedo. But the actual speed on the GPS device indicates its approx 80 when it shifts.

Looks like Ford has goofed up on the tyre sizes for the Indian version and this reflects favourably in the mileage calculation, so if you were to scientifically calculate this, I have not traveled 15K in this vehicle but only approx 13,200 KM! So, the fuel average must be worse than what I think it is!

City Average is as low as 7.0 kmpl

Third service is scheduled at 20,000 km (or 12 months from purchase) but I feel the car needs a service at 15,000

siddheshb · 19th September 2010, 14:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by HillBilly

Looks like Ford has goofed up on the tyre sizes for the Indian version and this reflects favourably in the mileage calculation, so if you were to scientifically calculate this, I have not traveled 15K in this vehicle but only approx 13,200 KM! So, the fuel average must be worse than what I think it is!

Interesting, but I am not too sure of this... roadwise, the distance on the GPS, the odo and the roadside markers seems the same

siddheshb · 19th September 2010, 15:08

Some links to videos from YouTube, the stuff Samara and I have been up to in Goa!

YouTube - 20100911164617

YouTube - 20100914184046

YouTube - 20100914184646

siddheshb · 19th September 2010, 15:33

More stuff, on Zoo Zoo Hill

YouTube - 20100913122520

YouTube - 20100913122837

YouTube - 20100913122955

sameer_tangri · 21st September 2010, 22:01

Hi Siddhesh,

I'm curious and want to confirm...you used the 4L mode in the 1st gear while climbing the stairs right?
And what was the mode you used in the uphill drives?

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4x4addict Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 4,483 Thanked: 4,529 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (5)	@sameer: I feel that it is okay to try out these things on a Bolero. But in a powerful vehicle like the Endy, I wouldn't take this risk. Just imagine the leaf springs snaps at high speed, you will loose control. I know they guarantee etc, but still, it's made in a local shop.
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20th August 2010, 10:11	#92
sameer_tangri BHPian Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Pune Posts: 36 Thanked: 4 Times	@4x4addict, thanks for pointing that out. So I guess that this should not be done unless there are some verified and proven results. I have a friend here in Pune with whom I'm gonna discuss this in detail and will post the details here. He is an auto-enthusiast but is horrible with computers. I am trying to get him to join TBHP also... :-)
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25th August 2010, 18:01	#93
siddheshb BHPian Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Pune, Panaji Posts: 442 Thanked: 260 Times View My Garage	Sameer, no, I haven't thought of the Leaf Springs, because 7000 km and a lot of on and off roading later, I realise the ride quality is actually pretty good as long as you know to avoid those particular kinda speed bumps Just go a little low on the tire pressure, and life's good!
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30th August 2010, 17:31	#94
sameer_tangri BHPian Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Pune Posts: 36 Thanked: 4 Times	Siddhesh, What is the recommended Tyre Pressure and what do you keep it at? Also, doesn't this affect the suspension?
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3rd September 2010, 23:18	#95
siddheshb BHPian Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Pune, Panaji Posts: 442 Thanked: 260 Times View My Garage	Sameer, I believe the recommended is around 40, but I run it typically around 32 to 30. I don't think it hurts the suspension, but of course, it might increase consumption a little bit. In fact, for extreme off roading, it's recommended you run low pressure.
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15th September 2010, 10:07	#96
siddheshb BHPian Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Pune, Panaji Posts: 442 Thanked: 260 Times View My Garage	Up the stairs...
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15th September 2010, 13:22	#97
Godfather Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bangalore / Atlanta Posts: 1,387 Thanked: 70 Times View My Garage	Lol.. thats a nice pic of the endy going up the stairs.. i am getting delivery of my new endy AT tomorrow evening. color white. Goddy I have a question for you, when i asked the sales person about maintainence cost of the vehicle, he did mention that the second or 3rd service would come up to around 15,000. but in one of the posts i read the cost was 2500 or something. could you please clarify on this. also what was the mileage you got on the highways? Last edited by Godfather : 15th September 2010 at 13:27.
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16th September 2010, 09:53	#98
sameer_tangri BHPian Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Pune Posts: 36 Thanked: 4 Times	Siddhesh, Great photo! :-) Where did you do this? I have another question for you...Ford has launched the 4x2 AT version also and this is about 1 and a half lac cheaper than the 4x4 AT. All other specs remain the same from what I have read. So tell me....where and when do you use the 4H or 4L modes? I am in two minds whether to go for 4x4 or 4x2. Your answers would help in making the final decision. Regards, Sameer.
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18th September 2010, 23:22	#100
siddheshb BHPian Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Pune, Panaji Posts: 442 Thanked: 260 Times View My Garage	Sameer/Kedar, yes, this is in Goa, a place we call Zoo Zoo Hill... north of Anjuna beach. Awesome place for some simple off roading. This is an incomplete hotel complex that was abandoned due to legal/other troubles. Sameer, the 4WD is absolutely necessary for any real offroading - and the 1.5L price difference is so totally worth it.
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21st September 2010, 22:01	#105
sameer_tangri BHPian Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Pune Posts: 36 Thanked: 4 Times	Hi Siddhesh, I'm curious and want to confirm...you used the 4L mode in the 1st gear while climbing the stairs right? And what was the mode you used in the uphill drives?
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