[wanderernomad]

@gigy I got them checked, nothing wrong there mate. Now on Sunday I am getting the starter motor opened and cleaned and greased. Hopefully the problem shall not resurface.

[premdiv]

Originally Posted by wanderernomad

Check for the coil connections maybe they are loose. Radiator fan coming on indicates engine overheating, what does your temp needle say?

Temperature needle is in middle only as normal. Checked the fuses and all. In some forums they mention about faulty crank sensor. Is this a possibility. Any idea how much it will cost? Will check the coil connections in MASS. Thanks

[wanderernomad]

Faulty crank sensor, I dont think so, if its only on bad roads that you are experiencing it, its probably something loose somewhere. A faulty crank sensor will produce this problem every time or atleast not specifically on bad roads.

[premdiv]

Originally Posted by wanderernomad

Faulty crank sensor, I dont think so, if its only on bad roads that you are experiencing it, its probably something loose somewhere. A faulty crank sensor will produce this problem every time or atleast not specifically on bad roads.

It happens to me when i had to start immediately after stopping the car. So from past 2 days i feel that this problem is something that happens when i start the car within 5 - 10 minutes max after stop. If i do it after 10 mins it starts effortlessly and no probs. Dont know what is creating prob when its hot.

[wanderernomad]

If that is the case get your starter motor checked up. Its over heating due to some issue probably some part thats getting stuck or something.

[filcord]

Originally Posted by wanderernomad

Yesterday on valentines day, decided to take wifey to Surajkund fair. Everything was going on splendid but as they say if everythings going your way you are probably going the wrong way!! As I switch off the engine on long red lights, I switched off the engine on the saket turn red light on the MB road. The light turned green and I turned the ignition.. nothing. I tried again and again nothing. The motor wont turn and the horns would not stop blaring from the rear. Tried 6-7 times and everytime the motor would go grr and get stuck somewhere. Anyway got down and pushed it to one side. Opened the bonnet and checked for loose wiring and found nothing. Since everything worked fine it could not be the battery. Put wife in the driver's seat and push started the car. Drove it to Surajkund without any further issue but didnot switch it off on the lights again. Parked the car and switched off the engine, tried the ign again and it came to life instantly. Switched off again and tried again, voila it came to life instantly. Left it parked and then came back after 6 hours. Turned the key and it started without a murmur of protest. Came back home and again switched off and on 5-6 times and it came on without any hiccup. What could have gone wrong? What should I get checked before it spoils the fun again and leaves me stranded?

This happens when the battery does not have enough power to crank a hot engine. When the engine is hot, the pistons expand, and it takes more power to crank the engine. Often it points to a battery that is on it's way out. Try this, run the engine for say half-hour, install a good fresh battery, and see if it cranks.

[wanderernomad]

But if its the battery wont the dying show when the battery is checked? Moreover is it not more difficult to crank a cold engine than a hot one?

[wanderernomad]

@prem the more I ahve discussed your problem the more I am inclined towards a faulty starter motor. It may be that after driving on bad roads a loose mounting is causing the starter assembly from exactly aligning itself to the flywheel thus preventing a full crank. Please get the mountings checked and also get the self serviced and see if the problem reoccurs.

[filcord]

Originally Posted by wanderernomad

But if its the battery wont the dying show when the battery is checked? Moreover is it not more difficult to crank a cold engine than a hot one?

Just try the new battery method I recommended, and see if it works, as I think it will. It'll cost you nothing.

The reason is something to do with the amperage output. Most times the battery tester will only show voltage, that too without load.

[wanderernomad]

Yet to do the new battery test as it is giving me no jitters as yet. Will be going on a longish journey this friday, so lets see. Anyway got myself a few goodies picked up from various sources in US. Will work on fixing them up in a day or two. Last fe was ~15kmpl in Delhi without aircon. Also its time for tyre change. Suggestions?

[filcord]

It is more difficult to crank a hot engine rather than a cold engine, the reason being the pistons are swollen up and fitting tighter, there is more friction, etc.

[Vikrum]

No Mr.filcord

It is more difficult to crank a cold engine than a hot engine because

1) Oil / coolant is cold and thick at low temp. resultig in higher friction for the moving / rotating parts of the engine.
2) Battery / cable resistance will also be higher at cold condition.
3) Piston expands but takes the required shape only when is hot. And a hot piston makes the cranking easier / faster.

vikrum

[wanderernomad]

Ok the dilemma now is which tyres to put on. The options are:-

1. Continental 185/65/14 being quoted for Rs 3800 -4000.
2. Yoko A drives for Rs 4100.
3. Michelin XM1+ for Rs 4300-4400.
4. Bridgestone Turanza 175/65/14 ( Ithink) ER 60 for Rs 4300-4500.
5. Bridgestone B250 for Rs 3900-4200.
Driving is a mix of city + highway (50-50). What do you suggest?

[Buffetfan]

Originally Posted by wanderernomad

Ok the dilemma now is which tyres to put on. The options are:-

1. Continental 185/65/14 being quoted for Rs 3800 -4000.
2. Yoko A drives for Rs 4100.
3. Michelin XM1+ for Rs 4300-4400.
4. Bridgestone Turanza 175/65/14 ( Ithink) ER 60 for Rs 4300-4500.
5. Bridgestone B250 for Rs 3900-4200.
Driving is a mix of city + highway (50-50). What do you suggest?

Add Yoko C.Drive to that list - will be abt INR 100-200 more than A.Drive but very good tires. I use them in my Baleno. They will grip more but maybe last 20% or so less compared to A.Drive. I have them in my Innova for the past 27k, Baleno for 500 km and from the looks of it, they might last 45-50k in the Innova. I changed from Michelin Energy XM1 in the Baleno and these tires grip much better in the wet.

[Mr_Bean]

Originally Posted by wanderernomad

Ok the dilemma now is which tyres to put on. The options are:-

1. Continental 185/65/14 being quoted for Rs 3800 -4000.
2. Yoko A drives for Rs 4100.
3. Michelin XM1+ for Rs 4300-4400.
4. Bridgestone Turanza 175/65/14 ( Ithink) ER 60 for Rs 4300-4500.
5. Bridgestone B250 for Rs 3900-4200.
Driving is a mix of city + highway (50-50). What do you suggest?

I have my baleno running on XM1+, my view:
1.) Bumpy ride at slow speeds due to harder sidewall, but after 15 kms of running there is hardly any wear and tear
2.) At high speeds, there is less road noise
3.) Decent Grip, if you don't do hard cornering this tyre may do it.
4.) Not a great looking tyre when compared to yokos.